If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By BJWilliams
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LUconn wrote:because shuck is just trying to ruin every discussion by arguing something completely unrelated. And nobody can resist arguing with him.
He is kinda like a train wreck in progress...you dont want to watch but at the same time you cant turn away...
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By jinxy
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The direction is we aren't going anywhere. It wasn't like he went out on a limb and it was Layer's first job. Look back at his coaching history, mediocrity. If i remember correctly he had like maybe 3 good seasons out of 15 or something like that (Don't quote me) but it was just mediocrity. I dont know why everyone is content with competing in the big south. We all want out of the big south so badly so why do we set our aim so low.
By jmdickens
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LUconn wrote:because we can't even do that.
Yep. We have to prove something first. We need a coach who understands that is what the school wants!
By thepostman
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BJWilliams wrote:
LUconn wrote:because shuck is just trying to ruin every discussion by arguing something completely unrelated. And nobody can resist arguing with him.
He is kinda like a train wreck in progress...you dont want to watch but at the same time you cant turn away...
wait, you don't like him? I would've never guessed you hide it so well
By lynchburgwildcats
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jmdickens wrote:
lynchburgwildcats wrote: Show me proof he did anything. If you can show me proof then I will admit it. Accusations mean nothing without proof. That's all I ask. Until someone does it, I will assume what the NCAA said in both the Camby and Rose situations - Calipari had nothing to do it.
With your reply, I ask one question to clarify your conclusion. Did Butch Davis do anything wrong at UNC regarding the football program and NCAA violations? This is only an attempt to see your logic or your blindness, so think before posting.
I know very little of what transpired there because it's UNC football, and the only irrelevant football program I pay any attention to is Kentucky.
By lynchburgwildcats
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LUconn wrote:because shuck is just trying to ruin every discussion by arguing something completely unrelated. And nobody can resist arguing with him.
Don't want to argue about Calipari, don't bring him up. Do note that I never uttered a word about Calipari until others started talking about him. I would have had zero need to talk about Calipari in this thread if not for you guys bringing him up. You guys have no one but yourselves to blame on this one. What the heck did you think was going to happen? Use some common sense once in a while, I know you guys aren't that freaking stupid...
By jmdickens
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lynchburgwildcats wrote:
jmdickens wrote:
lynchburgwildcats wrote: Show me proof he did anything. If you can show me proof then I will admit it. Accusations mean nothing without proof. That's all I ask. Until someone does it, I will assume what the NCAA said in both the Camby and Rose situations - Calipari had nothing to do it.
With your reply, I ask one question to clarify your conclusion. Did Butch Davis do anything wrong at UNC regarding the football program and NCAA violations? This is only an attempt to see your logic or your blindness, so think before posting.
I know very little of what transpired there because it's UNC football, and the only irrelevant football program I pay any attention to is Kentucky.
You have posted before and accused UNC of cheating in academics to keep athletes eligible. So are you going to continue to make things up now?

Also, you comment on Liberty football all the time 8) , so even your attempt at humor is bad.
By jmdickens
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lynchburgwildcats wrote:
LUconn wrote:because shuck is just trying to ruin every discussion by arguing something completely unrelated. And nobody can resist arguing with him.
Don't want to argue about Calipari, don't bring him up. Do note that I never uttered a word about Calipari until others started talking about him. I would have had zero need to talk about Calipari in this thread if not for you guys bringing him up. You guys have no one but yourselves to blame on this one. What the heck did you think was going to happen? Use some common sense once in a while, I know you guys aren't that freaking stupid...
Calipari is perceived by college coaches as the biggest cheater..., I trust them way more than the NCAA 8)
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By Purple Haize
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LUconn wrote:stop with the Calipari talk before I have to move this jenker to the non-LU forum. Is Calipari/UK the new RD?
No one is stopping you :D
By Bigsouthking
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Before everyone passes the verdict on LU Hoops take a breath and think of a few things;

1- will Burrus and Gielo help win more games
2- is schedule too tough
3- does LU actually care about hoops
4-Is Layer a bad coach or does he need to tweak his staff
5- what's the expectations of LU hoops
And IMO #5 is the Big one, what's the vision by the AD/Chancellor? -- RD was fired and he won a Title, so obviously there is more to it than winning... Winning record important, conference record important? Attendance important?

Things to think about...
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By Purple Haize
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Bigsouthking wrote:Before everyone passes the verdict on LU Hoops take a breath and think of a few things;

1- will Burrus and Gielo help win more games
2- is schedule too tough
3- does LU actually care about hoops
4-Is Layer a bad coach or does he need to tweak his staff
5- what's the expectations of LU hoops
And IMO #5 is the Big one, what's the vision by the AD/Chancellor? -- RD was fired and he won a Title, so obviously there is more to it than winning... Winning record important, conference record important? Attendance important?

Things to think about...
Jeff Meyer
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By GillsHill2013
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Purple Haize wrote:
Bigsouthking wrote:Before everyone passes the verdict on LU Hoops take a breath and think of a few things;

1- will Burrus and Gielo help win more games
2- is schedule too tough
3- does LU actually care about hoops
4-Is Layer a bad coach or does he need to tweak his staff
5- what's the expectations of LU hoops
And IMO #5 is the Big one, what's the vision by the AD/Chancellor? -- RD was fired and he won a Title, so obviously there is more to it than winning... Winning record important, conference record important? Attendance important?

Things to think about...
Jeff Meyer
Im new so I had to google Jeff Meyer...I think im picking up what youre putting down.
By lynchburgwildcats
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jmdickens wrote:
lynchburgwildcats wrote:
jmdickens wrote:With your reply, I ask one question to clarify your conclusion. Did Butch Davis do anything wrong at UNC regarding the football program and NCAA violations? This is only an attempt to see your logic or your blindness, so think before posting.
I know very little of what transpired there because it's UNC football, and the only irrelevant football program I pay any attention to is Kentucky.
You have posted before and accused UNC of cheating in academics to keep athletes eligible. So are you going to continue to make things up now?

Also, you comment on Liberty football all the time 8) , so even your attempt at humor is bad.
My focus has been purely on the basketball program's academic cheating. I could care less what their football team is doing. And name the last time I commented on Liberty football prior to this post.
By jmdickens
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lynchburgwildcats wrote: My focus has been purely on the basketball program's academic cheating. I could care less what their football team is doing. And name the last time I commented on Liberty football prior to this post.
That is funny. Everyone that I know who graduated from Kentucky and even Duke know and say that the whole academic cheating nonsense is merely nonsense. The false accusations by the News and Observer, the NCSU newspaper has put these lies out to keep drawing some subscriptions. You obviously are a wal-mart bandwagon fan. I am happy LU didn't offer you admissions.

You choose to believe a man who has brought 2 separate programs down with either academic scandals or NCAA violations is 100% clean and still choose to believe that a program that has an overall good history of very high standards has blatantly cheated to succeed. Boy that bubble must be nice.
By lynchburgwildcats
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jmdickens wrote:
lynchburgwildcats wrote: My focus has been purely on the basketball program's academic cheating. I could care less what their football team is doing. And name the last time I commented on Liberty football prior to this post.
That is funny. Everyone that I know who graduated from Kentucky and even Duke know and say that the whole academic cheating nonsense is merely nonsense. The false accusations by the News and Observer, the NCSU newspaper has put these lies out to keep drawing some subscriptions. You obviously are a wal-mart bandwagon fan. I am happy LU didn't offer you admissions.

You choose to believe a man who has brought 2 separate programs down with either academic scandals or NCAA violations is 100% clean and still choose to believe that a program that has an overall good history of very high standards has blatantly cheated to succeed. Boy that bubble must be nice.
Butt hurt a bit are you? :lol:
By jmdickens
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lynchburgwildcats wrote:
jmdickens wrote:
lynchburgwildcats wrote: My focus has been purely on the basketball program's academic cheating. I could care less what their football team is doing. And name the last time I commented on Liberty football prior to this post.
That is funny. Everyone that I know who graduated from Kentucky and even Duke know and say that the whole academic cheating nonsense is merely nonsense. The false accusations by the News and Observer, the NCSU newspaper has put these lies out to keep drawing some subscriptions. You obviously are a wal-mart bandwagon fan. I am happy LU didn't offer you admissions.

You choose to believe a man who has brought 2 separate programs down with either academic scandals or NCAA violations is 100% clean and still choose to believe that a program that has an overall good history of very high standards has blatantly cheated to succeed. Boy that bubble must be nice.
Butt hurt a bit are you? :I chortle audibly.:
Nope, I just don't like dumb people.
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By Cider Jim
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Purple Haize wrote:Disagree when it comes to basketball. You should be able to show improvement in your second year third at most.
Wow, Purple writes like someone who has actually coached before, for a living. Either that, or he's read several of Hanky's books on coaching.
By ballcoach15
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There is no reason why LU cannot be a top mid major program. just need to get right pieces of the puzzle in place, and that will require a major commitment to basketball program, and major changes in current direction.
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By Purple Haize
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Cider Jim wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:Disagree when it comes to basketball. You should be able to show improvement in your second year third at most.
Wow, Purple writes like someone who has actually coached before, for a living. Either that, or he's read several of Hanky's books on coaching.
I'm reading up preparing for the day when I get my big break to coach an Upward Bound team Play Basketball :pray
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By bballfan84
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ballcoach15 wrote:There is no reason why LU cannot be a top mid major program. just need to get right pieces of the puzzle in place, and that will require a major commitment to basketball program, and major changes in current direction.
Liberty is a very conservative Christian university. It is a lot harder to bring in recruits that could elevate us to a top mid major program without sacrificing our values (which is what one coach did back when we won the Big South..not naming any names though)...cmon be realistic.
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By adam42381
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lynchburgwildcats wrote:
jmdickens wrote:Nope, I just don't like dumb people.
Guess you don't like looking in the mirror then...
Your fourth grade self called and wants his joke back.
By lynchburgwildcats
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adam42381 wrote:
lynchburgwildcats wrote:
jmdickens wrote:Nope, I just don't like dumb people.
Guess you don't like looking in the mirror then...
Your fourth grade self called and wants his joke back.
And do does your 4th grade education.
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By adam42381
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lynchburgwildcats wrote:
adam42381 wrote:
lynchburgwildcats wrote:Guess you don't like looking in the mirror then...
Your fourth grade self called and wants his joke back.
And do does your 4th grade education.
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