[Bigsouthking]

There is no such thing as incomplete. You either get a pass or fail... It's a Business PH... AD's job to get it right...

Let's bring him back then and see if he can complete it! Ha ha.

RMK is a phony in coaching world. Figure it out PH. He will leave UVA this year now that Mike Scott and Sammy Z graduate. Bet you lunch on it! (send u a gift card - ha ha. $15 limit)

[Purple Haize]

There is no such thing as incomplete. You either get a pass or fail... It's a Business PH... AD's job to get it right...

Let's bring him back then and see if he can complete it! Ha ha.

RMK is a phony in coaching world. Figure it out PH. He will leave UVA this year now that Mike Scott and Sammy Z graduate. Bet you lunch on it! (send u a gift card - ha ha. $15 limit)

I see what you are saying. But from my viewpoint, you can say it WAS a good hire because while he was here for a yearwe had some buzz etc, if only for a year. He DID leave after a year which is usually bad, but to move from here to an ACC school as associate head coach with a good friend? Can't predict that. Now if he had gone to Cleveland State or something id agree with you.
As for the bet, sure I'll take it. I wouldn't be suprised if he DID leave but can see him staying as well. I'm always one up for a wager!

[Bigsouthking]

Ok ..... Now we can lock the thread!

[Purple Haize]

Ok ..... Now we can lock the thread!

Ha. Another point. If you higher Calipari and you go on probation you can sort of predict that. You know what you are getting. With RMK, why you say he's a phony, I'm not sure anyone could have predicted that move, at least so soon.
I'm excited about the new Cook Out coming to town. Just saying.

[Bigsouthking]

You mean 'hire' --- he's a phony because his past reputation is bouncing around from job to job. Can't sit still get his contract move along.... Portland St, Colorado St, Oregon St, new mexico, Liberty, etc etc. Dale Layer exact opposite, he's staying until they fire him or he retires.

That's my definition of phony. Not cheating...

You mean LU can hire Calipari and they didn't. (just a joke guys I know better)

[truthorconsequences]

I should start a new thread to settle all this petty non sense on the history of LU hoops...mistakes, mistakes, mistakes!!!!

1. Firing Jeff Meyer
2. Hiring Mel Hankinson
3. Never having an AD to make decisions until JB was hired, basically a bunch of pansies with a title.
4. Not a great idea to bring RD back 2nd time, opened can of worms
5. Since they did bring RD back, he should have had extension after he won tournament, but that's his fault and no AD either at the time.
6. Bad hire in RMK, journey man, looking for job as soon as he was hired.
7. In 2 full decades 1992- 2012 LU has only appeared in 4 BS championship games. That's pathetic.
8. If LU is moving to a better league, Dale deserves some patience. But needs to better athletes if they join MAC, especially if they join Sun Belt or C- USA.

Nothing more to say until program consistenly beats someone's a**!

All that non sense about players RD left or didn't leave: who cares...it's been 5 years AD
( after Dunton)

We have certainly wasted 9 years with hires outside the LU family.

[Purple Haize]

I should start a new thread to settle all this petty non sense on the history of LU hoops...mistakes, mistakes, mistakes!!!!

1. Firing Jeff Meyer
2. Hiring Mel Hankinson
3. Never having an AD to make decisions until JB was hired, basically a bunch of pansies with a title.
4. Not a great idea to bring RD back 2nd time, opened can of worms
5. Since they did bring RD back, he should have had extension after he won tournament, but that's his fault and no AD either at the time.
6. Bad hire in RMK, journey man, looking for job as soon as he was hired.
7. In 2 full decades 1992- 2012 LU has only appeared in 4 BS championship games. That's pathetic.
8. If LU is moving to a better league, Dale deserves some patience. But needs to better athletes if they join MAC, especially if they join Sun Belt or C- USA.

Nothing more to say until program consistenly beats someone's a**!

All that non sense about players RD left or didn't leave: who cares...it's been 5 years AD
( after Dunton)

We have certainly wasted 9 years with hires outside the LU family.

You know what they say, especially around Marshall.....Incest is best!

[olldflame]

Who is a member of the "LU family? Is being in the "family" only a requirement for head coaching positions, or assistants too? Do high school coaches in Alaska qualify? With the exception of a few LU athletes who moved directly into assistant coaching positions, every coach we have ever had was an "outsider" at at some point.

[LUconn]

Layer was in the LU family. He was an assistant just 2 years before being the head coach.

[olldflame]

Layer was in the LU family. He was an assistant just 2 years before being the head coach.

So, if we rehired Richie, would that now be considered "inside the family"? Fact is, Layer was totally off our radar before RMK hired him as an assistant, and they both left us to take assistant coaching positions at major college programs.

My point is that the terms "family" and "outsider" can mean anything you want them to.

[Purple Haize]

Layer was in the LU family. He was an assistant just 2 years before being the head coach.

So, if we rehired Richie, would that now be considered "inside the family"? Fact is, Layer was totally off our radar before RMK hired him as an assistant, and they both left us to take assistant coaching positions at major college programs.

My point is that the terms "family" and "outsider" can mean anything you want them to.

Maybe we can call them In-Laws

[R i]

If a guy can can win Championships as a coach, AND is participating in the school's mission , does anyone really care where he comes from?

[LUconn]

I don't even know what we're arguing about

[jcmanson]

I don't even know what we're arguing about

My daddy's bigger than your daddy!

[truthorconsequences]

JB was given the green light to run his athletic department. He made his decisions to go his direction and with unmatched budgets in a low level league we have gone backwards and with all the $$$, TV$$$ and promotion $$$ the talent, performance and attendance have gone south. Why no accountability?

[thepostman]

JB was given the green light to run his athletic department. He made his decisions to go his direction and with unmatched budgets in a low level league we have gone backwards and with all the $$$, TV$$$ and promotion $$$ the talent, performance and attendance have gone south. Why no accountability?

wait are you creeping closer to finally blaming someone who actually could change things? I may not agree with you but maybe you will finally grow a pair and call out JFjr for keeping this man you think is so awful around. You haven't done it yet but you are getting close. For that sir, I congratulate you on. Its real growth!

[Purple Haize]

JB was given the green light to run his athletic department. He made his decisions to go his direction and with unmatched budgets in a low level league we have gone backwards and with all the $$$, TV$$$ and promotion $$$ the talent, performance and attendance have gone south. Why no accountability?

wait are you creeping closer to finally blaming someone who actually could change things? I may not agree with you but maybe you will finally grow a pair and call out JFjr for keeping this man you think is so awful around. You haven't done it yet but you are getting close. For that sir, I congratulate you on. Its real growth!

Do you really think that if he doesn't have the spine to call for firing the Basketball coach for what he thinks is a poor product he is magically gonna put his Big Boy Pull Up Diapers on and call for accountability from The Big Dog? It's all about JB and the Satanic hold he has on JLFJr and all the coaches. He is truly the puppet master! I of course think Mickey G is the Evil Genius behind it all. He's been here through it all......think about it.....

[Hold My Own]

Along with Coach Sundheim....think about it....

[olldflame]

Along with Coach Sundheim....think about it....

Don't forget Ed Gomes.

[Purple Haize]

Along with Coach Sundheim....think about it....

Don't forget Ed Gomes.

Yeah but Ed came from another department and Sundheim only worked in football. No, Mickey G is the only one who has been here through it all with the access to sew his evil master plan......
Oh he comes across as so mild mannered and gracious. But look into his eyes and you will see the coal blackness of the under world!

[truthorconsequences]

JB was given the green light to run his athletic department. He made his decisions to go his direction and with unmatched budgets in a low level league we have gone backwards and with all the $$$, TV$$$ and promotion $$$ the talent, performance and attendance have gone south. Why no accountability?

wait are you creeping closer to finally blaming someone who actually could change things? I may not agree with you but maybe you will finally grow a pair and call out JFjr for keeping this man you think is so awful around. You haven't done it yet but you are getting close. For that sir, I congratulate you on. Its real growth!

Do you really think that if he doesn't have the spine to call for firing the Basketball coach for what he thinks is a poor product he is magically gonna put his Big Boy Pull Up Diapers on and call for accountability from The Big Dog? It's all about JB and the Satanic hold he has on JLFJr and all the coaches. He is truly the puppet master! I of course think Mickey G is the Evil Genius behind it all. He's been here through it all......think about it.....

Actually you are the spineless one with accountability. With all the resources available to Snow White JB you and your remaining six dwarfs fail to hold him to any standard of product. Falling behind SBU in football, dropping out of top tier in BSC in MBB and playing football players charged with a felony is now fashionable because you must be enamored with the $$$ JLFjr has dedicated to athletics. The program performed better previous AD's. But if we will all swallow the fairy tale we can run around and say we are progressing under JB.

[jbock13]

With all the resources available to Snow White JB you and your remaining six dwarfs fail to hold him to any standard of product.

Holy cow this guys good. You should consider a career in politics! Your analogies and rhetoric are awesome. Although unfortunately your opinions are not so enlightened.

[thepostman]

Actually you are the spineless one with accountability. With all the resources available to Snow White JB you and your remaining six dwarfs fail to hold him to any standard of product. Falling behind SBU in football, dropping out of top tier in BSC in MBB and playing football players charged with a felony is now fashionable because you must be enamored with the $$$ JLFjr has dedicated to athletics. The program performed better previous AD's. But if we will all swallow the fairy tale we can run around and say we are progressing under JB.

and you were making real progress too! You can do it, you can't call of JFjr to be held accountable can you? You do realize he is the one that decides JB's future right? Not the people on this message board, just sayin..

Again I don't agree with your stance but at least grow a pair and call out the man responsible for JB still having a job. You won't do that though because its not JFjr you have personal problems with, its JB. That is why your opinion doesn't hold much water. You have allowed personal feelings getting hurt dictate your opinion.

[Purple Haize]

Actually you are the spineless one with accountability. With all the resources available to Snow White JB you and your remaining six dwarfs fail to hold him to any standard of product. Falling behind SBU in football, dropping out of top tier in BSC in MBB and playing football players charged with a felony is now fashionable because you must be enamored with the $$$ JLFjr has dedicated to athletics. The program performed better previous AD's. But if we will all swallow the fairy tale we can run around and say we are progressing under JB.

and you were making real progress too! You can do it, you can't call of JFjr to be held accountable can you? You do realize he is the one that decides JB's future right? Not the people on this message board, just sayin..

Again I don't agree with your stance but at least grow a pair and call out the man responsible for JB still having a job. You won't do that though because its not JFjr you have personal problems with, its JB. That is why your opinion doesn't hold much water. You have allowed personal feelings getting hurt dictate your opinion.

His first sentence basically is a Pre school, No, I'm not,You are, argument. Very effective. I will now have to dig deep and reply with either 'I know you are but what am I"' or go really hard core with 'Im rubber you are glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you!". Decision decisions.

After sleeping on it, I really think ToC. IS Mickey G. Think about it. He will only criticize the AD and not the Chancellor. Why? Because he wants the AD gone so he can slide into that spot and if he angers the Chancellor his evil plan will come undone. The coaches are just part of Mickey's evil minions. They under perform so the AD looks bad thus causing more pressure to get rid of the AD. Once in place the coaches will begin to perform which makes him look like the Athletic Messiah! I haven't figured out how he is keeping the community away but I'll go Brietbart on his jerk and find out. Yes be wary. We know who you are now TRUTHOR...GURIDY and your dastardly plans will fail now that the Justice League is on the case!

[jcmanson]

After sleeping on it, I really think ToC. IS Mickey G. Think about it. He will only criticize the AD and not the Chancellor. Why? Because he wants the AD gone so he can slide into that spot and if he angers the Chancellor his evil plan will come undone. The coaches are just part of Mickey's evil minions. They under perform so the AD looks bad thus causing more pressure to get rid of the AD. Once in place the coaches will begin to perform which makes him look like the Athletic Messiah! I haven't figured out how he is keeping the community away but I'll go Brietbart on his jerk and find out. Yes be wary. We know who you are now TRUTHOR...GURIDY and your dastardly plans will fail now that the Justice League is on the case!

Sarcastic or not, this is uncalled for.