[flamesbball84]

They are worth something, if nothing else just to get students to come to the school or to get the school's name out in the air.

If that's all they're for then we don't need them. If you did a survey of the general American public, I can guarantee you MANY more people have heard of LU over LC.

And explain to me how I care that many more people have heard of LU over LC? Survey the general American public on why or how they have heard of LU, and most won't give you a positive reason why. Why? Because most of the stuff LU is famous for isn't very positive - think teletubbies, Falwell blaming 9/11 on gays and lesbians, the democratic club fiasco, Falwell calling AIDS "the wrath of a just God against homosexuals", and many other notable PR mistakes. Personally, I'd rather my school be unknown than to be notorious for such things and to be associated with bigotry and hate like so many people view it nationally.

Do I view it that way and is that all I consider when I think about LU? No, but there are many others out there who think exazctly that and consider all that stuff and even more negatives when they think LU.

[dompennix]

Just throwing out something on topic Smitty is only shooting like 30% from the field

[flamesbball84]

Just throwing out something on topic Smitty is only shooting like 30% from the field

Is averaging 7.5 rebounds/48, which is pretty good for a guy playing SG/SF

[jcmanson]

I forgot who I was talking to. I should have just bit my tongue.

[Hold My Own]

All I have to say is this, if LC is mediocre, then why will VA Tech accept LC MBA credits but won't accept LU MBA credits for students looking to transfer to VA Tech? Does that mean LU is even further below mediocre then if their credits are deemed less acceptable than LC's?

Does LC have a residential MBA program?

[UNCA Alum]

Looked yall up on Wikipedia because I had never heard of your school before today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynchburg_College

Check out the opening paragraphs.

The Princeton Review lists it as one of the 368 best colleges in the nation.[1] U.S. News & World Report ranks Lynchburg 33rd in the top tier of southern master's universities.[2] The College Board puts the College's average SAT scores for the middle 50% of incoming freshman at 460 - 570 math and 450 - 550 for writing [3].

LC is also one of only 40 colleges nationwide cited in Colleges That Change Lives and is also profiled in The Templeton Guide: Colleges That Encourage Character Development. In conjunction to these accolades, Lynchburg College was the first institution in the United States to train nuclear physicists and engineers for the NS Savannah project under order of President Eisenhower, to aid in the development and operation of the world's first nuclear powered ship.


Average SAT: 1020

http://www.lynchburg.edu/x7072.xml

Liberty averages 990 and they are 5x(?) as big and accept all comers.

Regardless, if yall were the paradigm of academic excellence that you have described.... one would think you'd be able to attract better students.

[ToTheLeft]

Looked yall up on Wikipedia because I had never heard of your school before today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynchburg_College

Check out the opening paragraphs.

The Princeton Review lists it as one of the 368 best colleges in the nation.[1] U.S. News & World Report ranks Lynchburg 33rd in the top tier of southern master's universities.[2] The College Board puts the College's average SAT scores for the middle 50% of incoming freshman at 460 - 570 math and 450 - 550 for writing [3].

LC is also one of only 40 colleges nationwide cited in Colleges That Change Lives and is also profiled in The Templeton Guide: Colleges That Encourage Character Development. In conjunction to these accolades, Lynchburg College was the first institution in the United States to train nuclear physicists and engineers for the NS Savannah project under order of President Eisenhower, to aid in the development and operation of the world's first nuclear powered ship.


Average SAT: 1020

http://www.lynchburg.edu/x7072.xml

Liberty averages 990 and they are 5x(?) as big and accept all comers.

Regardless, if yall were the paradigm of academic excellence that you have described.... one would think you'd be able to attract better students.

As much as we disagree with you on most everything else... I think I speak for everyone here when I say....

+1

[Hold My Own]

Looked yall up on Wikipedia because I had never heard of your school before today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynchburg_College

Check out the opening paragraphs.

The Princeton Review lists it as one of the 368 best colleges in the nation.[1] U.S. News & World Report ranks Lynchburg 33rd in the top tier of southern master's universities.[2] The College Board puts the College's average SAT scores for the middle 50% of incoming freshman at 460 - 570 math and 450 - 550 for writing [3].

LC is also one of only 40 colleges nationwide cited in Colleges That Change Lives and is also profiled in The Templeton Guide: Colleges That Encourage Character Development. In conjunction to these accolades, Lynchburg College was the first institution in the United States to train nuclear physicists and engineers for the NS Savannah project under order of President Eisenhower, to aid in the development and operation of the world's first nuclear powered ship.


Average SAT: 1020

http://www.lynchburg.edu/x7072.xml

Liberty averages 990 and they are 5x(?) as big and accept all comers.

Regardless, if yall were the paradigm of academic excellence that you have described.... one would think you'd be able to attract better students.

Pretty elite comment right there...not to mention a 70 year head start....LU has just reached the point where we are limiting the amount of new students

[flamesbball84]

Looked yall up on Wikipedia because I had never heard of your school before today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynchburg_College

Check out the opening paragraphs.

The Princeton Review lists it as one of the 368 best colleges in the nation.[1] U.S. News & World Report ranks Lynchburg 33rd in the top tier of southern master's universities.[2] The College Board puts the College's average SAT scores for the middle 50% of incoming freshman at 460 - 570 math and 450 - 550 for writing [3].

LC is also one of only 40 colleges nationwide cited in Colleges That Change Lives and is also profiled in The Templeton Guide: Colleges That Encourage Character Development. In conjunction to these accolades, Lynchburg College was the first institution in the United States to train nuclear physicists and engineers for the NS Savannah project under order of President Eisenhower, to aid in the development and operation of the world's first nuclear powered ship.


Average SAT: 1020

http://www.lynchburg.edu/x7072.xml

Liberty averages 990 and they are 5x(?) as big and accept all comers.

Regardless, if yall were the paradigm of academic excellence that you have described.... one would think you'd be able to attract better students.

Pretty elite comment right there...not to mention a 70 year head start....LU has just reached the point where we are limiting the amount of new students

And only 60% of LU students actually submit an SAT score (according to collegeboard.com) - that's means 40% of SAT scores aren't even reported, that's a pretty significant chunk of missing information that could greatly skew what the real average is...

[flamesbball84]

All I have to say is this, if LC is mediocre, then why will VA Tech accept LC MBA credits but won't accept LU MBA credits for students looking to transfer to VA Tech? Does that mean LU is even further below mediocre then if their credits are deemed less acceptable than LC's?

Does LC have a residential MBA program?

Yes, we do. I don't know if this applies to the MBA program or not, but the school of business and economics just received national accreditation. "Representatives based their decision on the business school's facility in Schewel Hall, community interaction, low class size, and the ethics of the program." We don't do online programs - they don't really fit our mission statement and institutional values, as evidenced by the previously stated quote - though that hasn't stopped people from getting permission to have a semi-online courses before.

[UNCA Alum]

Not that they need me to defend them, but I've always been under the impression that Liberty accepts students that would not otherwise go to college as a means to:

a) Give them an education
b) Introduce them to the Christian lifestyle


Doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with that principle, but I think it's kind of off base to use that fact against their average SAT scores.


A prestigious Ivy League of the South small private liberal arts university such as Lynchburg College, however, should be able to attract the best and the brightest.

[Hold My Own]

All I have to say is this, if LC is mediocre, then why will VA Tech accept LC MBA credits but won't accept LU MBA credits for students looking to transfer to VA Tech? Does that mean LU is even further below mediocre then if their credits are deemed less acceptable than LC's?

Does LC have a residential MBA program?

Yes, we do.

There's your answer we just started our residential, mainly online and very few accept only online school credit

[Cider Jim]

Off topic, but does LC have a Quiz Bowl team? If so, LU will play you any time, any where.

[flamesbball84]

Not that they need me to defend them, but I've always been under the impression that Liberty accepts students that would not otherwise go to college as a means to:

a) Give them an education
b) Introduce them to the Christian lifestyle


Doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with that principle, but I think it's kind of off base to use that fact against their average SAT scores.


A prestigious Ivy League of the South small private liberal arts university such as Lynchburg College, however, should be able to attract the best and the brightest.

I never said we were that level, but our admissions standards are better than Liberty's.

[flamesbball84]

Off topic, but does LC have a Quiz Bowl team? If so, LU will play you any time, any where.

No, but LC has an ethics bowl team.

[LUconn]

But really I said the coattails thing because you were riding ours to get that shout out. or shout down in this case. But I noticed that you immediately jumped to arbitrary school rankings and have not touched athletics.

[flamesbball84]

But really I said the coattails thing because you were riding ours to get that shout out. or shout down in this case. But I noticed that you immediately jumped to arbitrary school rankings and have not touched athletics.

Numbers for the University Division (D1s) isn't available yet for this year, so I have to go with data from the 07-08 school year. Liberty's athletic teams boasted a .566 winning percentage, LC's athletic teams had a .615 winning percentage. And that included our absolutely dreadful men's basketball team and both tennis teams. Advantage: LC

2007-08: LC .615, LU .556
2006-07: LC .531, LU .525
2005-06: LC .541, LU .519
2004-05: LC .614, LU .497
2003-04: LC .574, LU .493

Great job by LU to improve each and every year, it is certainly commendable and that is not sarcasm whatsoever

[ToTheLeft]

But really I said the coattails thing because you were riding ours to get that shout out. or shout down in this case. But I noticed that you immediately jumped to arbitrary school rankings and have not touched athletics.

Numbers for the University Division (D1s) isn't available yet for this year, so I have to go with data from the 07-08 school year. Liberty's athletic teams boasted a .566 winning percentage, LC's athletic teams had a .615 winning percentage. And that included our absolutely dreadful men's basketball team and both tennis teams. Advantage: LC

Apples, meet Oranges. Oranges, meet Apples. I'm sure you've met before, Shuk has introduced you guys numerous occasions.

[flamesbball84]

But really I said the coattails thing because you were riding ours to get that shout out. or shout down in this case. But I noticed that you immediately jumped to arbitrary school rankings and have not touched athletics.

Numbers for the University Division (D1s) isn't available yet for this year, so I have to go with data from the 07-08 school year. Liberty's athletic teams boasted a .566 winning percentage, LC's athletic teams had a .615 winning percentage. And that included our absolutely dreadful men's basketball team and both tennis teams. Advantage: LC

Apples, meet Oranges. Oranges, meet Apples. I'm sure you've met before, Shuk has introduced you guys numerous occasions.

Not my fault LC wins more often than LU

[Hold My Own]

But really I said the coattails thing because you were riding ours to get that shout out. or shout down in this case. But I noticed that you immediately jumped to arbitrary school rankings and have not touched athletics.

Numbers for the University Division (D1s) isn't available yet for this year, so I have to go with data from the 07-08 school year. Liberty's athletic teams boasted a .566 winning percentage, LC's athletic teams had a .615 winning percentage. And that included our absolutely dreadful men's basketball team and both tennis teams. Advantage: LC

2007-08: LC .615, LU .556
2006-07: LC .531, LU .525
2005-06: LC .541, LU .519
2004-05: LC .614, LU .497
2003-04: LC .574, LU .493

Great job by LU to improve each and every year, it is certainly commendable and that is not sarcasm whatsoever

are you really quoting winning % from what would be considered 4 AAAA competition if it was a high school?

[flamesbball84]

But really I said the coattails thing because you were riding ours to get that shout out. or shout down in this case. But I noticed that you immediately jumped to arbitrary school rankings and have not touched athletics.

Numbers for the University Division (D1s) isn't available yet for this year, so I have to go with data from the 07-08 school year. Liberty's athletic teams boasted a .566 winning percentage, LC's athletic teams had a .615 winning percentage. And that included our absolutely dreadful men's basketball team and both tennis teams. Advantage: LC

2007-08: LC .615, LU .556
2006-07: LC .531, LU .525
2005-06: LC .541, LU .519
2004-05: LC .614, LU .497
2003-04: LC .574, LU .493

Great job by LU to improve each and every year, it is certainly commendable and that is not sarcasm whatsoever

are you really quoting winning % from what would be considered 4 AAAA competition if it was a high school?

LC's D3 athletes competing against D3 athletes are doing a better job than your D1 athletes competing against other D1 athletes. Each school is competing against teams at their level, and LC has historically performed at their level better than LU has performed at their level. That's a fact, the winning percentages don't lie. If you don't like it, then I recommend contacting Scott Musa at Shenandoah since he is the President of VaSID, the organization which does the all-state survey where I got thse numbers from.

[Hold My Own]

You can keep giving me whatever PR statement your athletic department is pushing out for whenever someone makes fun of your 4 A program but I really only care about your % vs D1...or just LU....either or will do

[flamesbball84]

You can keep giving me whatever PR statement your athletic department is pushing out for whenever someone makes fun of your 4 A program but I really only care about your % vs D1...or just LU....either or will do

LC has historically beaten their level of competition more often than LU has historically beaten their level of competition. It's a fact and the VaSID website proves it. I know it's hard to live with the fact that your D1 athletes haven't been doing better than our D3 athletes, but sorry it's a fact.

Want me to find out more information about how our athletes and athletic teams have consistently done better against our level than your athletes and athletic teams have done against your level?

[LUconn]

All I know is our D1 athletes will show your D3 athletes DEEEZ NUTS

[Hold My Own]

You can keep giving me whatever PR statement your athletic department is pushing out for whenever someone makes fun of your 4 A program but I really only care about your % vs D1...or just LU....either or will do

LC has historically beaten their level of competition more often than LU has historically beaten their level of competition. It's a fact and the VaSID website proves it. I know it's hard to live with the fact that your D1 athletes haven't been doing better than our D3 athletes, but sorry it's a fact.

Want me to find out more information about how our athletes and athletic teams have consistently done better against our level than your athletes and athletic teams have done against your level?

I dont need any more info, I know you guys can compete at the 4A level....wouldnt win the state title every year, but I have no doubt you'd have a chance until a 16 year old drains a 3 and steals your dreams with no time left.....but then, there's always next year