If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By Bronx Bombers
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Let's play "what if" for a second...what if Liberty decides to give RD an extension, you would have to assume that it should be a standard extension (5 years). However, the odds of that happening you would have to think are dampered by the Karcher debacle of last year. So what is left? One-year, two-year -- what coach would subject him/herself to that?
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By PAmedic
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was waiting for the Karcher ref:

surprised it took until page 7 :)

*and no hidden meaning there- just some obvious similarities. No, I don't want to talk about it*
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By flameshaw
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If RD's contract is not renewed, it would be nice to have him announce it, and give him the dignity of making it look like it is his idea. Maybe he wants to watch his son play ball, spend more time with the family, coach his son at another school, etc. He deserves that.

In addition, we should pay him a decent severance package, carry his insurance, etc. for a period of time. If he gets another job before the severance runs out, then we can end our obligation. When families and futures are involved, it is only the decent thing to do. When a change is made due to a performance issue, the employer always is responsible to some degree or another as well.

Hope we know soon, one way or the other, so we can move on, but more importantly Randy doesn't need the ax teetering over his head either. If we decide to keep him, that ax will hinder his performance until it is gone.

GO FLAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone ready for football?
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By PAmedic
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READY FOR ROCCO BALL, BABY!

lost in all this mess is the fact that SCAR called what was possibly his (SCAR's) best game ever. Excellent job last night my brother- VERY well done, very smooth, very professional.

even the interview w/ Reggie at the end was worth listening to. Kinda like a knife, but great job.

this man needs more work.

Jeff B, are you reading this? 8)
By LUconn
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3 years and if you dont like what's happening after 2, buy out the 3rd. I think it's safe for the school and not insulting to the coach. I think he'd be the first to admit the program is not where he thought it would be at this point.
By Hold My Own
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people dont realize that but your so right....he'll do this with class...and if for some reason whenever it ends it's not with class i'll be the first one on here saying I cant believe it went down like that
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By jcmanson
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How I felt last night... :brownbag

How I feel now.... :brownbag

I'm going to try to cool down over the next few hours before I talk about the game or the coach. Tough night. :|
By thepostman
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still wishing the season wasn't over...word has it there is going to be a meeting today between Coach D and JB...so maybe we'll know soon about the future of this program so we don't have to keep questioning it
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By PAmedic
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read pages 4-7 :lol:
By Ed Dantes
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flameshaw wrote:In addition, we should pay him a decent severance package, carry his insurance, etc. for a period of time. If he gets another job before the severance runs out, then we can end our obligation. When families and futures are involved, it is only the decent thing to do. When a change is made due to a performance issue, the employer always is responsible to some degree or another as well.
Why? When someone's contract runs out, what obligation does the employer have?

Just consider it "free agency". Dunton knows that his contract is expiring, he should have planned ahead. If he didn't feel like he was going to get an extension, then by all means he should have been saving money as an emergency fund.

But Ed, you may say, it is difficult to save for an emergency fund. Well, Dunton is getting paid a heck of a lot more than our professors.

Food for thought:

People say on this board that he shouldn't be offered only a 1-year contract extension, because no one would sign that. Well, our professors are forced to do it, year in and year out.

No decent, respectable coach would sign a 1 year deal. Fine.... but think about that whenever you see that Liberty's academic reputation is always ranked in the last tier, according to U.S. News & World Report.
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By PAmedic
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ED- try starting your day with a Bloody Mary or Mimosa !

will make you less cranky
By Hold My Own
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it's not the way sports works...you dont have players lining up a team for next year when it's their final year


and if you know anything about LU they generally will take care of their people when they leave...they may underpay some (not so much in sports) but they will rarely just cut the cord without something....as long as it is deserved, we've had some yahoos we couldnt cut the cord quick enough!
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By WWJFD
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Rumor D meeting w/ JB @ 10am
By mrich
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LUconn wrote:3 years and if you dont like what's happening after 2, buy out the 3rd. I think it's safe for the school and not insulting to the coach. I think he'd be the first to admit the program is not where he thought it would be at this point.
If RD is giving a three year extension that would put him at 8 years at LU. I just think that the ideal coach should be able to due what we all what him to due, bring respect to our program, in less time. I agree with what the Winthrop guys stated earlier. I think that RD is a good recruiter. That is obvious, but he lacks or is needs improvement on the skills needed to run a D1 program. No disrespect to the guy, but maybe he should stick to what he is good at, and take on an assistant's role somewhere.
By Hold My Own
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WWJFD wrote:Rumor D meeting w/ JB @ 10am
that's what I said on page 6! but I cant get mad, I dont go back and read all this crap either :lol: 8)
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By Bronx Bombers
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Hold My Own wrote:
WWJFD wrote:Rumor D meeting w/ JB @ 10am
that's what I said on page 4! but I cant get mad, I dont go back and read all this crap either :lol: 8)
you didn't post on this thread until page 6.. :wink: details aside, we do appreciate your insight -- and i agree w/ you that we should know something today
By Bronx Bombers
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I can never get that stupid quote thing to work
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By jcmanson
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I wouldn't be suprised either way. I have always loved RD as our coach, but after last night I would not be dissapointed either way. I believe in Jeff Barber and what he can do for our program. If RD does not come back, we all need to keep it civilized because without him we don't win the tourney in '04.
By Stevev
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I believe in an earlier post. I think that Randy is a good recruiter and certainly was a great assistant to Jeff Meyer when he was the head man and did a great job. Randy just doesn't have what it takes to be the head man as far as running a program or game day coaching.
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By Sly Fox
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This discussion is no longer about the VMI game so I'm shutting down this thread. Lets take the Coach Dunton talk to the other threads.
By Hold My Own
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I'm going to write this big.

Let's just all be MATURE about this

I'm being serious...this is sometimes when we see the biggest difference between the haters and koolade drinkers...I can promise you the koolade drinkers will support whatever happens and let it go after a solid week, but boy I dont even want to think about whats going to take place if he's around a few more years...I may have to quit the board again (for you brokeback)
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