What Would It take?

What Would It take?#277916

By FlamesBeBallin - October 5th, 2009, 9:46 pm

- October 5th, 2009, 9:46 pm #277916

Alright I'm new to this whole college hockey thing. But I was just wondering, what would it take for us to go into the ncaa?? I mean it would probably take forever, but we have the top four spots in goals scored in the league. Maybe were not playing good teams, but this whole thing was just a simple question.

Re: What Would It take?#277920

By SuperJon - October 5th, 2009, 10:10 pm

- October 5th, 2009, 10:10 pm #277920

Let's just say it's not happening anytime in the near or semi-distance future.

Re: What Would It take?#277954

By bigsmooth - October 6th, 2009, 6:10 am

- October 6th, 2009, 6:10 am #277954

moving hockey to DI status is not on the radar. obviously we are set in regards to facilities, and have a natural canadian recruiting pipeline, but i believe title IX has something to do with it. i would love to see it someday, but as SJ said, do not look for it any time soon. we are one of the best club programs in the country, and that is good enough for most at this point.

Re: What Would It take?#278119

By Kolzilla41 - October 6th, 2009, 6:23 pm

- October 6th, 2009, 6:23 pm #278119

FlamesBeBallin wrote:Alright I'm new to this whole college hockey thing. But I was just wondering, what would it take for us to go into the ncaa?? I mean it would probably take forever, but we have the top four spots in goals scored in the league. Maybe were not playing good teams, but this whole thing was just a simple question.

It would take a whole butt load of money.

Re: What Would It take?#278120

By Sly Fox - October 6th, 2009, 6:47 pm

- October 6th, 2009, 6:47 pm #278120

Frankly the benefit really wouldn't offset the costs. While the calibre of opponents would increase, the name recognition probably wouldn't. I think most students care more about beating the ACC & Big Ten schools more than Bentley, Ferris State, Bemidji State or Renssalaer.

Re: What Would It take?#278121

By Kolzilla41 - October 6th, 2009, 6:52 pm

- October 6th, 2009, 6:52 pm #278121

Sly Fox wrote:Frankly the benefit really wouldn't offset the costs. While the calibre of opponents would increase, the name recognition probably wouldn't. I think most students care more about beating the ACC & Big Ten schools more than Bentley, Ferris State, Bemidji State or Renssalaer.

We don't really play anyone else besides the ACC and they don't have anything at D1. We play schools like RIT, BU, BC and ND and I guarantee you we will draw record crowds.

Re: What Would It take?#278122

By Sly Fox - October 6th, 2009, 7:00 pm

- October 6th, 2009, 7:00 pm #278122

Just like in football, your not getting the name brands schools to travel unless they let you in their league. And frankly, RIT doesn't mean much to most students or alumni.

Re: What Would It take?#278123

By SuperJon - October 6th, 2009, 7:05 pm

- October 6th, 2009, 7:05 pm #278123

Let's be honest here. Our hockey team, while a good club team, is lower than Lynchburg College athletics in the grand scheme of things. We like to make fun of LC for being a Division 3 school and we make fun of Division 3 athletics. Our hockey team is lower than Division 3. They are not NCAA. They are ACHA. They are good at what they are, but they are not NCAA. They don't like to tell people that. They like to say they're Division I and leave it at that.

Re: What Would It take?#278130

By bigsmooth - October 6th, 2009, 8:17 pm

- October 6th, 2009, 8:17 pm #278130

though that is true jon, there are some real NCAA D3 teams LU could beat. we just need to continue to try to be the best ACHA DI team out there, because the support is there.

Re: What Would It take?#278143

By flamesbball84 - October 6th, 2009, 9:03 pm

- October 6th, 2009, 9:03 pm #278143

bigsmooth wrote:though that is true jon, there are some real NCAA D3 teams LU could beat. we just need to continue to try to be the best ACHA DI team out there, because the support is there.

There are some real D3 teams that most likely wouldn't have much trouble defeating LU. there are D3 basketball and baseball teams that beast D1 teams every year. so whats your point?

Re: What Would It take?#278157

By BJWilliams - October 6th, 2009, 10:09 pm

- October 6th, 2009, 10:09 pm #278157

I think what they are getting at is that we dont need to step hockey up to the NCAA at this point, but we do have a very talented team and we should stand pat where we are. No point in getting too big for our hockey britches

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Re: What Would It take?#278162

By El Scorcho - October 6th, 2009, 10:46 pm

- October 6th, 2009, 10:46 pm #278162

flamesbball84 wrote:
bigsmooth wrote:though that is true jon, there are some real NCAA D3 teams LU could beat. we just need to continue to try to be the best ACHA DI team out there, because the support is there.
There are some real D3 teams that most likely wouldn't have much trouble defeating LU. there are D3 basketball and baseball teams that beast D1 teams every year. so whats your point?

His point was that our hockey team is a strong ACHA club and they need to continue to be that. Don't get your D3 panties in a bunch, trollface.

"With the threat of hell hanging over my head like a halo..."

Re: What Would It take?#278198

By Kolzilla41 - October 7th, 2009, 9:11 am

- October 7th, 2009, 9:11 am #278198

flamesbball84 wrote:
bigsmooth wrote:though that is true jon, there are some real NCAA D3 teams LU could beat. we just need to continue to try to be the best ACHA DI team out there, because the support is there.
There are some real D3 teams that most likely wouldn't have much trouble defeating LU. there are D3 basketball and baseball teams that beast D1 teams every year. so whats your point?

Name a D3 school that could beat us in any sport.

Re: What Would It take?#278211

By flamesbball84 - October 7th, 2009, 10:28 am

- October 7th, 2009, 10:28 am #278211

flamerbob wrote:
flamesbball84 wrote:
bigsmooth wrote:though that is true jon, there are some real NCAA D3 teams LU could beat. we just need to continue to try to be the best ACHA DI team out there, because the support is there.
There are some real D3 teams that most likely wouldn't have much trouble defeating LU. there are D3 basketball and baseball teams that beast D1 teams every year. so whats your point?
Name a D3 school that could beat us in any sport.

St. Thomas baseball - they beat Minnesota 6-3 (the Golden Gophers one) and won the national championsip. Minnesota finished the season ranked in the top 25 or one of the top teams in the receiving votes section of every single D1 baseball poll. Additionally, the Gophers were a #2 seed in their region for the NCAA Tournament. Basically, Minnesota was no slouch of a team.

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Re: What Would It take?#278215

By SuperJon - October 7th, 2009, 10:36 am

- October 7th, 2009, 10:36 am #278215

flamerbob wrote:Name a D3 school that could beat us in any sport.

95% of any D3 hockey team.

Re: What Would It take?#278216

By jcmanson - October 7th, 2009, 10:38 am

- October 7th, 2009, 10:38 am #278216

SuperJon wrote:
flamerbob wrote:Name a D3 school that could beat us in any sport.
95% of any D3 hockey team.

I think he's talking about one of our NCAA sports.

El Scorcho wrote:post at your own risk.

Re: What Would It take?#278217

By flamesbball84 - October 7th, 2009, 10:40 am

- October 7th, 2009, 10:40 am #278217

SuperJon wrote:
flamerbob wrote:Name a D3 school that could beat us in any sport.
95% of any D3 hockey team.

If you want to go that route then, our club men's lacrosse team, which is normally composed of people who quit our NCAA team because of lack of playing time or weren't good enough to make the team, handed it to the LU club team last time they played.

Re: What Would It take?#278230

By Kolzilla41 - October 7th, 2009, 1:08 pm

- October 7th, 2009, 1:08 pm #278230

flamesbball84 wrote:
SuperJon wrote:
flamerbob wrote:Name a D3 school that could beat us in any sport.
95% of any D3 hockey team.
If you want to go that route then, our club men's lacrosse team, which is normally composed of people who quit our NCAA team because of lack of playing time or weren't good enough to make the team, handed it to the LU club team last time they played.

flamesbball84,Are you comparing club team to club team? SJ, the difference between a D3 NCAA and a top ACHA Div 1 team is closer than you think. We are very near the top of the ACHA so I think the outcomes of most of the games would surprise you.

Re: What Would It take?#278267

By Sly Fox - October 7th, 2009, 7:22 pm

- October 7th, 2009, 7:22 pm #278267

Neither DIII or Club offer scholarships so the difference is generally slight. DII & DI are on whole other levels.

Re: What Would It take?#278288

By flamesbball84 - October 7th, 2009, 9:54 pm

- October 7th, 2009, 9:54 pm #278288

flamerbob wrote:flamesbball84,Are you comparing club team to club team? SJ, the difference between a D3 NCAA and a top ACHA Div 1 team is closer than you think. We are very near the top of the ACHA so I think the outcomes of most of the games would surprise you.

Yes club to club in the lacrosse case I brought up.

Re: What Would It take?#278329

By Kolzilla41 - October 8th, 2009, 11:21 am

- October 8th, 2009, 11:21 am #278329

Sly Fox wrote:Neither DIII or Club offer scholarships so the difference is generally slight. DII & DI are on whole other levels.

There hasn't been DII Ncaa in quite a few years.

flamesbball84 wrote:
flamerbob wrote:flamesbball84,Are you comparing club team to club team? SJ, the difference between a D3 NCAA and a top ACHA Div 1 team is closer than you think. We are very near the top of the ACHA so I think the outcomes of most of the games would surprise you.
Yes club to club in the lacrosse case I brought up.

You're comparing teams on a the same playing field so that would make the argument null.

Re: What Would It take?#278330

By Liberty4Life - October 8th, 2009, 11:58 am

- October 8th, 2009, 11:58 am #278330

This is really like a step up from comparing each other's flag football team.

Re: What Would It take?#278346

By bigsmooth - October 8th, 2009, 3:31 pm

- October 8th, 2009, 3:31 pm #278346

shuk, it is simple. LU could easily play NCAA D3 hockey and be very competitive, which im sure you would hate. see ya troll.

Re: What Would It take?#278353

By flamesbball84 - October 8th, 2009, 4:25 pm

- October 8th, 2009, 4:25 pm #278353

bigsmooth wrote:shuk, it is simple. LU could easily play NCAA D3 hockey and be very competitive, which im sure you would hate. see ya troll.

Problem though is that they are competing at a level that's even farther below lowly D3.

Re: What Would It take?#278354

By Kolzilla41 - October 8th, 2009, 4:27 pm

- October 8th, 2009, 4:27 pm #278354

flamesbball84 wrote:
bigsmooth wrote:shuk, it is simple. LU could easily play NCAA D3 hockey and be very competitive, which im sure you would hate. see ya troll.
Problem though is that they are competing at a level that's even farther below lowly D3.

The point I am trying to make is no, they are not that far below NCAA D3.