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2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: May 6th, 2017, 10:11 am
by Sly Fox
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Jonathan Graham
6' 5" 298 lbs Offensive Lineman
La Plata (MD) HS



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Holds Offers from (As of 5/6/17):
  • Liberty

Re: 2018 Prospect: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: May 6th, 2017, 11:35 am
by cruzan_flame13
I hope LU stay in contact with him. He would be a great fit for the o-line with his size.

Re: 2018 Verbal Commit: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 3rd, 2017, 1:48 pm
by Sly Fox
He verballed during his visit to the mountain this weekend.

Re: 2018 Verbal Commit: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 20th, 2017, 12:38 pm
by Sly Fox
He has signed!

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 21st, 2017, 8:54 pm
by olldflame
This kid is going to be huge. He is up to 325 now, and doesn't even look like he has filled out.

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 22nd, 2017, 1:25 am
by flameshaw
Is there a prize for the team that signs the most recruits with only one offer? 8)

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 22nd, 2017, 3:00 pm
by olldflame
flameshaw wrote:Is there a prize for the team that signs the most recruits with only one offer? 8)
#fakenews

I just checked, and Graham is the only HS player in this class with no other offers (that we are aware of). I have no issue whatsoever with us making a bit of a reach on a kid his size who is a Liberty fit. Bodden and Firth have no other FBS offers, but Frith put up huge numbers against 7A competition in GA and Bodden is a 2 star and started for 2 state championship teams at perennial powerhouse Hoover HS.

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 22nd, 2017, 4:15 pm
by flamehunter
Graham had an offer from Maine, a good FCS program, according to Rivals.

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 22nd, 2017, 5:53 pm
by jinxy
all i can do is laugh.

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 23rd, 2017, 8:37 am
by olldflame
jinxy wrote:all i can do is laugh.
I get that, but I also think I understand why flamehunter posted it. We've got guys implying that this signing class is full of recruits with no other offers, when in fact the number of those we have is ZERO. I couldn't care less personally that Maine offered Graham a scholarship. All that matters is we did, and I believe his size and potential make it well worth taking a reach.

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 24th, 2017, 10:00 pm
by flamehunter
I worry a lot less about how many stars or offers our recruits have and more about what our staff does with them after they get here. So far that's a much bigger concern for me in the TG era than the quality of recruits they've been getting.

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 24th, 2017, 10:02 pm
by flamehunter
jinxy wrote:all i can do is laugh.
Glad I could help. Judging from the majority of your messages you need some good humor in your life.

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 25th, 2017, 10:00 am
by Class of 20Something
flamehunter wrote:I worry a lot less about how many stars or offers our recruits have and more about what our staff does with them after they get here. So far that's a much bigger concern for me in the TG era than the quality of recruits they've been getting.
Based off history, every rated recruit we have brought in has been nearly an instant contributor or starter. I will hate myself for saying this, but maybe we haven't had good depth because we are only good at developing players with a high rating?

We rarely develop unrated players into stars. However, we have consistently given good recruits fantastic opportunity to shine.

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 25th, 2017, 1:00 pm
by olldflame
Carrington Moseley, Cephus Reddick, DaVonte Brown and several others started their careers as walk-ons and ended up being key contributors. Somewhere along the line some player development is going on for that to happen.

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 25th, 2017, 1:19 pm
by Purple Haize
olldflame wrote:Carrington Moseley, Cephus Reddick, DaVonte Brown and several others started their careers as walk-ons and ended up being key contributors. Somewhere along the line some player development is going on for that to happen.
Obviously they are doing it on their own via YouTube videos. TG is a worthless coach dontchaknow :roll:

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 25th, 2017, 3:34 pm
by Class of 20Something
olldflame wrote:Carrington Moseley, Cephus Reddick, DaVonte Brown and several others started their careers as walk-ons and ended up being key contributors. Somewhere along the line some player development is going on for that to happen.
Kind of proving my point. Let's say we've had 150 different guys in the last 8 years. We've pulled in a hand full of three stars, and they all have contributed. We've pulled in a slightly larger hand full of 2 stars and that's probably what 75-80% success rate. Of the remaining 130 guys in the past ten years maybe 10 of them have been developed into real stars.

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 29th, 2017, 3:07 pm
by olldflame
Class of 20Something wrote:
flamehunter wrote:I worry a lot less about how many stars or offers our recruits have and more about what our staff does with them after they get here. So far that's a much bigger concern for me in the TG era than the quality of recruits they've been getting.
Based off history, every rated recruit we have brought in has been nearly an instant contributor or starter. I will hate myself for saying this, but maybe we haven't had good depth because we are only good at developing players with a high rating?

We rarely develop unrated players into stars. However, we have consistently given good recruits fantastic opportunity to shine.
Actually, that is not accurate. At least 2 of our 3 star signees (Dallas Griffiths and Denvre Daniels) Were total flops, and the jury is still out on Keith Best and BJ Stubbs. We have had more walk-ons than 3 stars starting during Gill's tenure. Even Peterson did nothing as a FR and not much as a SO before his breakout JR year.

Re: 2018 Signee: OL Jonathan Graham*

Posted: December 29th, 2017, 8:14 pm
by Class of 20Something
olldflame wrote:
Actually, that is not accurate. At least 2 of our 3 star signees (Dallas Griffiths and Denvre Daniels) Were total flops, and the jury is still out on Keith Best and BJ Stubbs. We have had more walk-ons than 3 stars starting during Gill's tenure. Even Peterson did nothing as a FR and not much as a SO before his breakout JR year.
Go ahead and ignore the reply to you that directly addressed that.

You realize neither played their sophomore season? You also realize Dallas had a career ending injury? He had three sacks in three games as a true freshman.