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By TallyW
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What reason is there to sign, but not announce?

How binding is the signature? Once they sign, can another team pry them away? Can they take a better offer?

So what logical reason am I missing?
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By A Sea of Red
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TallyW wrote:What reason is there to sign, but not announce?

How binding is the signature? Once they sign, can another team pry them away? Can they take a better offer?

So what logical reason am I missing?
No need to fret, it's binding. This happened last year as well it's just Coach Gill wasn't as candid as Freeze is. These three that signed will announce in February, they just want to sign with other friends/classmates in February.
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By Purple Haize
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ballcoach15 wrote:Once a player signs and LOI received, that's it
Unless they transfer
By olldflame
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Purple Haize wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:Once a player signs and LOI received, that's it
Unless they transfer
Ooooo. You said the ¨T word¨!
Now go wash your mouth out with soap.

In the real world ¨that´s it¨means you cannot play for any other school for a year.
In ballcoach world, it would mean a minimum of 4 years of indentured servitude, where 2 of your 3 inalienable rights are suspended.
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By Cider Jim
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So has anyone RANKED this signing class?
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By flameshaw
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Cider Jim wrote:So has anyone RANKED this signing class?
I love the fact that Coach said the main focus going forward would be the Ol and DL. Is great to watch the "skilled position" players, but the game is won and lost up front. Glad we have someone who recognizes that. Now we just need a good DC.
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By Purple Haize
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ballcoach15 wrote:A good DC is enroute.
Really? You don’t think he’s out there looking for the worst one he can find? Fascinating
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By BJWilliams
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Here's my thought on transfering...
If you sign a NLI the expectation is that you are intending to commit the next 4 (or 5) years to play for a particular school. If you get beat for your job (as Jalen Hurts did down at Alabama), you could take the transfer route and chase the opportunity to "be the man" somewhere else, but what if you get beat at your new destination as well? Do you transfer again, trying to "be the man" or "be the future" somewhere else?
I agree with the idea of sitting out for a year if you move to another school in the same division...that is i think more than fair. That said, there ought to be rules on what constitutes a fair reason to transfer, and not just because youre hurt because you lost a position battle to a better player. Rashad transferred to be closer to family because of his father's health if my memory recalls that situation correctly. I don't mind someone transferring for a reason like that, but situations like that need to be properly vetted for their accuracy, and to avoid the possibility of misuse or deception (which I'm not saying is what occurred in his case, but sadly is a possibility in others).
If there is a coaching change, players should have the option to request a transfer and be eligible immediately (which i think is afforded in some situations), but again that needs to be properly vetted and handled on a case by case basis instead of making a blanket rule because not all situations are the same.
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By CCWMichael
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Purple Haize wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:A good DC is enroute.
Really? You don’t think he’s out there looking for the worst one he can find? Fascinating
Anybody whom listened to the press conference knows it's all HR from here .....
And, I am sure he is good, maybe even great.
I can do a palm reading but I prefer verification.
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By Purple Haize
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oldflame wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:Once a player signs and LOI received, that's it
Unless they transfer
Ooooo. You said the ¨T word¨!
Now go wash your mouth out with soap.

In the real world ¨that´s it¨means you cannot play for any other school for a year.
In ballcoach world, it would mean a minimum of 4 years of indentured servitude, where 2 of your 3 inalienable rights are suspended.
Do you think LU should give the ones back who transferred in? :dontgetit :lol:
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By CCWMichael
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Chippy wrote:
Cider Jim wrote:So has anyone RANKED this signing class?
134 behind UMass, New Mexico State, Kennesaw State and JMU.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Footb ... amRankings
Thanks for the link. The information is unreliable as they do not even have all our commits listed.
I am not sure that will improve our "status" all that much once they have all of our information .... if they even care to list it.
It will be interesting though to see where we are next year at this time.
By ALAFlamesFan
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I like all the guys we signed and will be really interested to see what Juco's and diamonds in the rough coach can find and sign in Feb. OL and DL and DB's are all needs. I was surprised we signed so many receivers. I felt like we already had decent depth at that position. Are there more transfers out there that are unannounced? CJ is a no brainer and Douglas looks fanastic. They guys from Akron could be great but we could use those scholarships to bolster other areas. Of course, one possibility is there were no linemen of the caliber we need interested in coming...can't let scholarships go empty.

I trust coach to get us in the right recruiting path in a hurry. This time next year could be a blockbuster!
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Chippy wrote:
Cider Jim wrote:So has anyone RANKED this signing class?
134 behind UMass, New Mexico State, Kennesaw State and JMU.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Footb ... amRankings
I'm going to do the math as if Tre'Shaun and Demario are 3* and the rest are two stars because 247 neglects LU.

The class as is on 247 has 57.23 points. I'm going to give 10 points for 3* and 7 points for a 2 star, I'm also only counting HS commits and the Akron transfers.

Those adjustments would put us at 112.23 which would raise the class to 115.

Assuming HCHF can pull 5 linemen in, three 3* and two 2*, that would add about 44 points to the class. And bring us to 156.23 which would have finished the 2018 class at the 80th ranked class. If all 5 were 3* then we would finish around 75 based on last years classes.
By olldflame
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Class of 20Something wrote:
Chippy wrote:
Cider Jim wrote:So has anyone RANKED this signing class?
134 behind UMass, New Mexico State, Kennesaw State and JMU.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Footb ... amRankings
I'm going to do the math as if Tre'Shaun and Demario are 3* and the rest are two stars because 247 neglects LU.

The class as is on 247 has 57.23 points. I'm going to give 10 points for 3* and 7 points for a 2 star, I'm also only counting HS commits and the Akron transfers.

Those adjustments would put us at 112.23 which would raise the class to 115.

Assuming HCHF can pull 5 linemen in, three 3* and two 2*, that would add about 44 points to the class. And bring us to 156.23 which would have finished the 2018 class at the 80th ranked class. If all 5 were 3* then we would finish around 75 based on last years classes.
That´s some pretty high proof :koolaid you are guzzlin. I think once the dust settles, we will end up higher, but personally, I don´t care. The 2 players HF singled out as likely to contribute immediatly I don´t think are even rated.
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No :koolaid I'm just providing information with points of reference. I think most here agree with Clark and Douglas passing the eye test as 3* players. Megginson, Stricker, and Sibley are already 2* rated on Rivals. Louis is the only other one getting I "added" stars to.
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