A Sea Of Red

Any Given Saturday Poll Top 25

PRE-SEASON 5/26/2008
(First place votes in parenthesis)

1. Appalachian St. (76)
2. James Madison (2)
3. Richmond (1)
4. North Dakota St. (2)
5. Northern Iowa
6. Massachusetts
7. Montana
8. McNeese St.
9. Eastern Washington
10. Wofford
11. Delaware
12. Southern Illinois
13. Cal Poly (1)
14. Youngstown St.
15. Elon
16. Georgia Southern
17. Villanova
18. South Dakota St.
19. Eastern Illinois
20. New Hampshire
21. The Citadel
22. Eastern Kentucky
23. Fordham
24. Yale
25. Furman
Others receiving votes (minimum of 5 votes): Harvard (33), Sam Houston St. (31), Delaware St. (29), Northern Arizona (27), Central Arkansas (24), Montana St. (24), Jackson St. (23), South Carolina St. (22), Jacksonville St. (18), Grambling St. (16), Liberty (16), Holy Cross (14), Western Illinois (13), Albany (12), Hofstra (12), Dayton (10), Hampton (10), Nicholls St. (7), Coastal Carolina (5), Colgate (5), Norfolk St. (5)

TEAM MOST ON THE RISE: Cal Poly
TEAM FALLING THE MOST: Delaware

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wow. I can't believe we didn't get a top 25 ranking. Just gives us something to prove next year. We do have some "unfinished business"!

It's just AGS, I wouldn't get too upset over it.

What exactly earned us a top 25 ranking? Losing to W and M? Losing to Elon? Losing to Toledo?

We didn't prove a thing, but have LOADS of potential. I'm glad we got some votes, and I'm glad that a couple of our opponents are ranked that high, so we can prove where we belong.

jcmanson wrote:It's just AGS, I wouldn't get too upset over it.

I'm not upset, I'm infuriated!!!!

haha.

ToTheLeft wrote:What exactly earned us a top 25 ranking? Losing to W and M? Losing to Elon? Losing to Toledo?

We didn't prove a thing, but have LOADS of potential. I'm glad we got some votes, and I'm glad that a couple of our opponents are ranked that high, so we can prove where we belong.

I think this is the first time I’ve said this, but good post lefty.

jcmanson wrote:

ToTheLeft wrote:What exactly earned us a top 25 ranking? Losing to W and M? Losing to Elon? Losing to Toledo?

We didn't prove a thing, but have LOADS of potential. I'm glad we got some votes, and I'm glad that a couple of our opponents are ranked that high, so we can prove where we belong.

I think this is the first time I’ve said this, but good post lefty.

Sometimes the Kool-Aid runs out and I use my brain.

I know this isn’t an official poll, but when was the last time we played 2+ teams ranked in the top 25 in the same year?

jcmanson wrote:I know this isn’t an official poll, but when was the last time we played 2+ teams ranked in the top 25 in the same year?

I think the AGS poll is at least somewhat official. Journalists actually use it. It doesn't determine the Sagarin and that stuff, but people take it seriously.

I have no clue about your question though.

I wouldn't call it official in the least, but that's subjective.

I believe the AGS people indicate it is indeed part of the formula the selection committee uses to choose teams for the playoffs. But I agree that it tends be a bit of a popularity contest with higher profile conferences getting major benefit of the doubt.

In all honesty, the Big South has never proven its mettle to be considered anything but a mediocre I-AA football conference...yet we hear about how Coastal wants to join the Southern or how we at Liberty should be in the CAA. If the Big South was more than just a jumping off point for teams moving into D1 (Elon, Greensboro), or schools with no other choice, then I could see it being held in high regard other than in baseball and one team in track and WBB. The one time we got a team in the playoffs, it got blitzed. That being said, why should we at LU or any other Big South team be getting anything other than "others receiving votes" at this juncture.

Fumblerooskies wrote:That being said, why should we at LU or any other Big South team be getting anything other than "others receiving votes" at this juncture.

If we had finished the job at Bill and Mary and Toledo, then we should. You can transcend your conference by winning big out of conference, and we didn't. In the end, it's about your team.

I saw in Lindy's yesterday that we were ranked 19th I believe in the pre-season poll.

ToTheLeft wrote:

Fumblerooskies wrote:That being said, why should we at LU or any other Big South team be getting anything other than "others receiving votes" at this juncture.

If we had finished the job at Bill and Mary and Toledo, then we should. You can transcend your conference by winning big out of conference, and we didn't. In the end, it's about your team.

Yes...two big "ifs." For the Big South as a whole to move up in perception (and in reality), it is going to be up to the teams to win those out-of-conference games. Coastal did, a couple years ago, against JMU (which turned out to be way down after their championship year), and we have yet to. Basically, it is the same argument as we have in basketball season. It cannot be one team that improves its schedule and starts winning some of those games, it is up to the entire league to.

I don't really care about pre-season, its the end of season ones I care about.

Fumblerooskies wrote:

ToTheLeft wrote:

Fumblerooskies wrote:That being said, why should we at LU or any other Big South team be getting anything other than "others receiving votes" at this juncture.

If we had finished the job at Bill and Mary and Toledo, then we should. You can transcend your conference by winning big out of conference, and we didn't. In the end, it's about your team.

Yes...two big "ifs." For the Big South as a whole to move up in perception (and in reality), it is going to be up to the teams to win those out-of-conference games. Coastal did, a couple years ago, against JMU (which turned out to be way down after their championship year), and we have yet to. Basically, it is the same argument as we have in basketball season. It cannot be one team that improves its schedule and starts winning some of those games, it is up to the entire league to.

What I'm saying is, we can get ranked and get recognition from the Big South. We aren't just shut out of everything based on the BSC, so we can't blame that.

Fumblerooskies wrote:...yet we here about how Coastal wants to join the Southern or how we at Liberty should be in the CAA.

evidently the quiz bowl team doesn't do grammar, or either CJ takes care of that part

WOW...one mis-spelling in 5241 posts and I get nailed for it.

just one that got caught.. and I caught it, which should make you even more embarressed.

JDUB wrote:just one that got caught.. and I caught it, which should make you even more embarressed.

No..embarrassment would have been GMTM pointing it out.

hahaha good point

Technically, Fumble’s faux pas was a wrong word, not a misspelling. JDUB, are you sure you want to be an accountant instead of an English teacher? You may have missed your calling majoring in business.

Cider Jim wrote:Technically, Fumble’s faux pas was a wrong word, not a misspelling. JDUB, are you sure you want to be an accountant instead of an English teacher? You may have missed your calling majoring in business.

Yeah...a wrong word...not an incorrect spelling. Sheesh!

And you think CJ would be tired of English after reading a billion honors thesis the past few weeks.

It seemed like a billion, but it was really ONLY 34.