[Sly Fox]

You have to boot 20-, 30- and 40-yard field goals in a row. But this is possible ...

Liberty Students Eligible to Win a Free Car from the Mabry Automotive Group

August 30, 2007
Lynchburg, Va.



The Mabry Automotive Group is partnering with the Student Flames Club for the 2007 football season with the Wild Wheels Kickoff contest.

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[shukcb04]

anyone got any odds on the chances of a kid doing this?

[LUconn]

I was there for the last kid that won the Nissan Truck. He had to win a few races against other students and then make a 30 (or possibly 40) yarder. It was crazy when he did it. Apparenlty they decided that was too easy to win a vehicle. The odds of this are better than the one for bball though. Make a FT, a 3PT and if you're decent enough of a player to do that, you have to make the halfcourt shot as well.

[whmatthews]

If somebody out there in our student body can actually succeed at this, they better give him not only a car, but a spot on the football team, because there haven't been many people on the team the past few years that could successfully do that.

[shukcb04]

I was there for the last kid that won the Nissan Truck. He had to win a few races against other students and then make a 30 (or possibly 40) yarder. It was crazy when he did it. Apparenlty they decided that was too easy to win a vehicle. The odds of this are better than the one for bball though. Make a FT, a 3PT and if you're decent enough of a player to do that, you have to make the halfcourt shot as well.

you think the football one is easier than the bball contest???

[LUconn]

I do.

[thepostman]

this has got to be much tougher then the basketball one...there are plenty of people who have attempted (and made) a FT, 3 pointer and halfcourt shot at some point in their lives...me being one of them....but a 20, 30 and 40 yard FG??? how many people have actualy tried doing....a lot less then for basketball that is for sure

[LUconn]

I agree, a lot less people have ever tried to kick a field goal. Which is why most people will think that this is more difficult.

[shukcb04]

the basketball one is so much easier. i can do that at least 1 in 5 times on a consistent basis (i've done things similar to that contest before) and i doubt i'd ever be able to make a 40 yard field goal. a lot of people won't even have the muscle to kick a 40-yarder, maybe not even a 30-yarder.

[thepostman]

haha...ok man...please explain to me why the basketball one is tougher?? enlighten us

[LUconn]

the basketball one is so much easier. i can do that at least 1 in 5 times on a consistent basis (i've done things similar to that contest before) and i doubt i'd ever be able to make a 40 yard field goal. a lot of people won't even have the muscle to kick a 40-yarder, maybe not even a 30-yarder.

If you can hit those 3 shots IN A ROW 1 in 5 times, you need to be on a full ride at LC.


Obviously we can disagree, but I think you're overestimating a field goal. I'll assume you realize that a 20 yard field goal is from the 10 and the 30 yarder is on the 20 etc. Leg strength as mentioned by shuk is out of the equation unless you get a real sissy out there. It's all about aim. While I won't say that it's easy or not hard, I will say that it doesn't take someone worthy of a football scholarship to be able to make these with no opposing defense in the way.

[Fumblerooskies]

Do not the rules state that the student can PUNT it through the goal posts? That makes it considerably easier.

In order to win, the contestant must first make a field goal from the 10-yard line. Then, the contestant must make a field goal or a punt through the uprights from the 20-yard line. Finally, the contestant must make a field goal from the 30-yard line. The contestant gets only one attempt from each yard line to make the kick and must complete all three kicks in 60 seconds or less to win a car.

[shukcb04]

the basketball one is so much easier. i can do that at least 1 in 5 times on a consistent basis (i've done things similar to that contest before) and i doubt i'd ever be able to make a 40 yard field goal. a lot of people won't even have the muscle to kick a 40-yarder, maybe not even a 30-yarder.

If you can hit those 3 shots IN A ROW 1 in 5 times, you need to be on a full ride at LC.

first of all, D3 doesn;t have athletic scholarships. secondly, FTs and 3s are easy, any average joe should be able to make either one of those 1 out of 10 times or they are a failure at life. thirdly, half court shots get relatively easy (although they still aren't easy like an FT) once you shoot them a bunch of times. and fourthly, shooting and playing in the post is about all i can do in basketball. i'd probably be the worst player in our conference, especially since a former POY from our conference just signed a pro contract in germany and the current POY was considered one of the best big man at the pete newell big man camp lol.

also, it doesnt take someone worthy of a basketball scholly to make a half-court shot either. i can make them and i'd never make the LC basketball team.

[shukcb04]

Do not the rules state that the student can PUNT it through the goal posts? That makes it considerably easier.

In order to win, the contestant must first make a field goal from the 10-yard line. Then, the contestant must make a field goal or a punt through the uprights from the 20-yard line. Finally, the contestant must make a field goal from the 30-yard line. The contestant gets only one attempt from each yard line to make the kick and must complete all three kicks in 60 seconds or less to win a car.

they can punt it? thats not even a field goal!

[LUconn]

I do not doubt that making a FT and 3PT are possible by your average joe. I also will agree that with enough practice, you can become a 10% halfcourt shooter. Combined making that feat possible (albiet 1 in 1000). What I'm saying is I think you're overestimating how difficult a field goal is for an average person.

[shukcb04]

I do not doubt that making a FT and 3PT are possible by your average joe. I also will agree that with enough practice, you can become a 10% halfcourt shooter. Combined making that feat possible (albiet 1 in 1000). What I'm saying is I think you're overestimating how difficult a field goal is for an average person.

yeah it's not difficult, if you ignore the fact that Liberty kickers struggle at making them. yes i know they are being defended, but whoever does this contest ahs the pressure of winning a car on their shoulders - that neutralizes the fact that they aren't being defended in my opinion.

[shukcb04]

I do not doubt that making a FT and 3PT are possible by your average joe. I also will agree that with enough practice, you can become a 10% halfcourt shooter. Combined making that feat possible (albiet 1 in 1000). What I'm saying is I think you're overestimating how difficult a field goal is for an average person.

if you are an adult and it takes you 1000 chances to pull off that feat, then you should nnver step foot in a basketball arena/gym for the rest of your life, even to watch a game, because you're a disgrace to basketball.

[thepostman]

calm down ladies

[LUconn]

I think you need to take some statistics classes. Actually, since you gave me the numbers you just need some basic math.

As for the kicking pressure to win a car is not the same as somebody trying to block your kick. People in the way alters the trajector and how quickly you have to kick it aside from the "pressure" of making a kick. NFL kickers have been known to hit 70+ yarders in practice when nobody's in the way, but if they had to do it in the game, they would have to put the ball higher in the air so it's not blocked which changes the arch of the ball causing it to come up short.

[shukcb04]

I think you need to take some statistics classes. Actually, since you gave me the numbers you just need some basic math.

As for the kicking pressure to win a car is not the same as somebody trying to block your kick. People in the way alters the trajector and how quickly you have to kick it aside from the "pressure" of making a kick. NFL kickers have been known to hit 70+ yarders in practice when nobody's in the way, but if they had to do it in the game, they would have to put the ball higher in the air so it's not blocked which changes the arch of the ball causing it to come up short.

and exactly how many NFL kickers attend Liberty other than Jason Elam, who I'm sure won't be at this game.

and i've taken stats classes, and regardless of what the stats say, if it takes you 1000 chances to do that then you're pathetic. i've seen a guy that shoots 36% from the free throw line do that feat in 2 tries.

[El Scorcho]

shukcb04, man, you're letting me down. Isn't arguing over something like this on a message board kind of childish?

I'm looking to you to be our supreme source of maturity now! Get your game together.

[shukcb04]

shukcb04, man, you're letting me down. Isn't arguing over something like this on a message board kind of childish?

I'm looking to you to be our supreme source of maturity now! Get your game together.

LOL, good point. i believe i'm just arguing to be arguing so I won't read this MBA economics book right now haha

[LUconn]

I think you need to take some statistics classes. Actually, since you gave me the numbers you just need some basic math.

As for the kicking pressure to win a car is not the same as somebody trying to block your kick. People in the way alters the trajector and how quickly you have to kick it aside from the "pressure" of making a kick. NFL kickers have been known to hit 70+ yarders in practice when nobody's in the way, but if they had to do it in the game, they would have to put the ball higher in the air so it's not blocked which changes the arch of the ball causing it to come up short.

and exactly how many NFL kickers attend Liberty other than Jason Elam, who I'm sure won't be at this game.

and i've taken stats classes, and regardless of what the stats say, if it takes you 1000 chances to do that then you're pathetic. i've seen a guy that shoots 36% from the free throw line do that feat in 2 tries.

I'm trying not to argue but you keep saying such dumb things that I just don't have the maturity level to let go. You gave me the 1 out of 10 number. You said it was the average joe and now you're saying it's pathetic. I just don't think you're making the connection between 1 out of 10 and the fact that it's 3 consecutive shots.


My point about the 70+ yarders was to illustrate the difference between kicking the ball with no defense vs defense. Try to follow along.

[Realist]

I would wager good money to see this if guy could make those 3 in a row in 1 out of 5. Good money.

I'm a good shooter, I can shoot 80% at least from the line, probably 60-75% from 3 depending on the day unguarded, and haven't taken enough half court shots to know a percentage, but I bet it would be 10% or slightly under. There's no way I'd bet on myself to do it in 1 out of 5. Maybe 1 out of 15 or 20.

[spc0506]

In regards to the field goal contest: there are plenty of students at Liberty who could pull this off. I was at the "walk on" kicking try outs last year. They must have had ten kids who were able to do it. Two guys were hitting from 50+. I don't think any of them stuck on the team, because in football there is a HUGE difference between kicking it between the goalposts and doing the same thing in full pads, with a line in front of you, a snap, a holder, and a massive rush. They were kicking in shorts and a T-shirt off the tee - much like people will be doing in the contest. Just because someone can kick it doesn't mean they're a college kicker.