[FlamesHighontheTide]

Plus, it is not farfetched to believe HCHF already knew this 2023 schedule was a strong possibility. The other thought I've had concerning the 2023 schedule is this, HCHF can still sell one of his biggest recruiting pitches which is, "be the first". In other words, be the first team to win an FBS conference title in their first year of CUSA. Those things still matter and I think 2023 could be a great opportunity to make a run at an undefeated season.

[sstaedtler]

Freeze said he wanted regional G5's and one Power 5. Instead we seem to be saving MAC games and UMass/UConn.

[JK37]

I guarantee Freeze has a say in every scheduling move.

[rogers3]

Awesome! Taking a backseat to JMU again.

[Logic]

What is the schedule? Are we not updating ASOR future schedules posts any longer?

[sstaedtler]

To let people know how far Liberty is behind on scheduling, compare us to the other Independents joining conferences. Games each team needs to get rid of due to joining a conference:

BYU 5
New Mexico State 9
Liberty 19

[LUOrange]

To let people know how far Liberty is behind on scheduling, compare us to the other Independents joining conferences. Games each team needs to get rid of due to joining a conference:

BYU 5
New Mexico State 9
Liberty 19

That is what we know of. So far the only thing we really know is that our UVA & SC games are gone (and possibly a very good G5 game). Liberty hasn't officially announced anything that I know of.

[Sly Fox]

My understanding is that Ian is working with multiple schools to manage every single necessary slot. I have heard that in some cases as many as four teams loving games around aree part of thee strategy. Again, just what I am hearing. We are trying to not only clear out inventory but help out our new CUSA colleagues while leveraging some of the value we have in our contracts. I don't envy Ian in this massive project.

[sstaedtler]

Lost 3 North Carolina games including a home 2028 game. I think we still have 17 games to get rid of. Please get rid of all UMass games soon. I beg of you Ian.

[LUGrad2000]

That stinks.

[LUOrange]

I've mostly been supportive of joining the new misfit Toys-CUSA. I, also understand the necessity of dropping 8 games a year for CUSA. However, I don't understand why it seems that we're dropping all of our P5's, especially regional and drivable opponents. This doesn't even fit the proposed non-conference scheduling philosophy McCaw announced. I would love for McCaw to give a good explanation and justification(beyond the standard PR script he always provides) for this that would allow me to be more understanding and supportive of these decisions.

[olldflame]

I've mostly been supportive of joining the new misfit Toys-CUSA. I, also understand the necessity of dropping 8 games a year for CUSA. However, I don't understand why it seems that we're dropping all of our P5's, especially regional and drivable opponents. This doesn't even fit the proposed non-conference scheduling philosophy McCaw announced. I would love for McCaw to give a good explanation and justification(beyond the standard PR script he always provides) for this that would allow me to be more understanding and supportive of these decisions.

I suspect not all of them have been our decision.

[TH Spangler]

I've mostly been supportive of joining the new misfit Toys-CUSA. I, also understand the necessity of dropping 8 games a year for CUSA. However, I don't understand why it seems that we're dropping all of our P5's, especially regional and drivable opponents. This doesn't even fit the proposed non-conference scheduling philosophy McCaw announced. I would love for McCaw to give a good explanation and justification(beyond the standard PR script he always provides) for this that would allow me to be more understanding and supportive of these decisions.

One P5 or P4 per year. G5's will be the new
FCS punching bag for them. Their cupcake week.

Hope I'm wrong.

[LUOrange]

I've mostly been supportive of joining the new misfit Toys-CUSA. I, also understand the necessity of dropping 8 games a year for CUSA. However, I don't understand why it seems that we're dropping all of our P5's, especially regional and drivable opponents. This doesn't even fit the proposed non-conference scheduling philosophy McCaw announced. I would love for McCaw to give a good explanation and justification(beyond the standard PR script he always provides) for this that would allow me to be more understanding and supportive of these decisions.

One P5 or P4 per year. G5's will be the new
FCS punching bag for them. Their cupcake week.

Hope I'm wrong.

My thoughts are definitely evolving with the recent Big 10 moves. I'm leaning towards 3 tiers of FBS/1A. I'm hoping we'll be able to land in Tier 2 when the music stops.

[sstaedtler]

My fear is that Ian feels some loyalty to UMass and UConn because they are Independents and he knows how hard it is to schedule. We play UMass like 6 straight years! To ask fans to have an FCS game and UMass as their home games out of conference is completely unacceptable. If we have to have to play UMass and UConn, get rid of the FCS game for good. We still have 15 games we need to get rid of on future schedules.

[Cider Jim]

If we have to have to play UMass and UConn, get rid of the FCS game for good.

With all due respect, you need to think like a coach/AD instead of like a fan. One FCS win counts toward the 6 wins needed to be eligible for a BOWL game!

[Sly Fox]

It is not just about getting rid of games. He may be more focusd on moving games to different years.

[LUOrange]

If we have to have to play UMass and UConn, get rid of the FCS game for good.

With all due respect, you need to think like a coach/AD instead of like a fan. One FCS win counts toward the 6 wins needed to be eligible for a BOWL game!

To Staedtler's point though, until they show some life UMASS is practically an FCS game. UCONN's not far behind them. I do have some sympathy and loyalty to UMASS, but why can't we at least get some MBB games out of the deal?

[Purple Haize]

If we have to have to play UMass and UConn, get rid of the FCS game for good.

With all due respect, you need to think like a coach/AD instead of like a fan. One FCS win counts toward the 6 wins needed to be eligible for a BOWL game!

To Staedtler's point though, until they show some life UMASS is practically an FCS game. UCONN's not far behind them. I do have some sympathy and loyalty to UMASS, but why can't we at least get some MBB games out of the deal?

But by playing UMASS and an FCS they essentially only have to win 4 more games to be Bowl eligible. And THAT is always the measuring stick

[Ill flame]

To Staedtler's point though, until they show some life UMASS is practically an FCS game. UCONN's not far behind them. I do have some sympathy and loyalty to UMASS, but why can't we at least get some MBB games out of the deal?

Good point. The occasional football game against those schools wouldn't be so bad if we got a relatively attractive home basketball game out of it. Unfortunately that just hasn't been happening. I don't see uconn being a team we end up playing every year moving forward. They have been relatively successful at scheduling in their short time as an independent and won't need to rely on us as much. UMASS on the other hand has not done as well and will need a lot of help to fill out their schedules moving forward. Regularly playing them in basketball as a consolation prize would be a big step up from a lot of our current non tournament competition.

[LUOrange]

To Staedtler's point though, until they show some life UMASS is practically an FCS game. UCONN's not far behind them. I do have some sympathy and loyalty to UMASS, but why can't we at least get some MBB games out of the deal?

Good point. The occasional football game against those schools wouldn't be so bad if we got a relatively attractive home basketball game out of it. Unfortunately that just hasn't been happening. I don't see uconn being a team we end up playing every year moving forward. They have been relatively successful at scheduling in their short time as an independent and won't need to rely on us as much. UMASS on the other hand has not done as well and will need a lot of help to fill out their schedules moving forward. Regularly playing them in basketball as a consolation prize would be a big step up from a lot of our current non tournament competition.

UConn hasn't had and probably won't have issues scheduling due to their old Big East relationships and their BB teams. I believe that I read that they'd like to keep thei football schedule focused in the northeast, even if it means 2 FCS games as well. But I also believe UConn will be on a quick shortlist of ACC back-fill candidates once the NFL Lite pro conferences are set up.

UMASS isn't that lucky. For me part of the appeal on CUSA 4.0 is that it's the rejects conference, and UMASS football fits that. So, Im not opposed to playing them, but I do agree that we should drop the FCS games so long as they remain on our schedule while they stink.

[sstaedtler]

If we have to have to play UMass and UConn, get rid of the FCS game for good.

With all due respect, you need to think like a coach/AD instead of like a fan. One FCS win counts toward the 6 wins needed to be eligible for a BOWL game!

With all due respect, if we can't get 6 wins in this version of CUSA, we don't deserve to go to a bowl game. Some other G5 coaches are scheduling much harder out of conference than we are going forward, including in this state. It's not as if other teams don't notice we are beating up on UMass, UConn, Akron, Bowling Green, New Mexico, etc....by playing weak teams your chance of getting TV exposure is less.

[ballcoach15]

Big 10 teams have feasted off cupcakes for years. You don't have to play a SEC west schedule. Just beat whoever you play

[TH Spangler]

The under performing P2 teams with their new 100 million dollar payday will use it for coach shopping. HF?

[LU 57]

To Staedtler's point though, until they show some life UMASS is practically an FCS game. UCONN's not far behind them. I do have some sympathy and loyalty to UMASS, but why can't we at least get some MBB games out of the deal?

Good point. The occasional football game against those schools wouldn't be so bad if we got a relatively attractive home basketball game out of it. Unfortunately that just hasn't been happening. I don't see uconn being a team we end up playing every year moving forward. They have been relatively successful at scheduling in their short time as an independent and won't need to rely on us as much. UMASS on the other hand has not done as well and will need a lot of help to fill out their schedules moving forward. Regularly playing them in basketball as a consolation prize would be a big step up from a lot of our current non tournament competition.

UConn hasn't had and probably won't have issues scheduling due to their old Big East relationships and their BB teams. I believe that I read that they'd like to keep thei football schedule focused in the northeast, even if it means 2 FCS games as well. But I also believe UConn will be on a quick shortlist of ACC back-fill candidates once the NFL Lite pro conferences are set up.

UMASS isn't that lucky. For me part of the appeal on CUSA 4.0 is that it's the rejects conference, and UMASS football fits that. So, Im not opposed to playing them, but I do agree that we should drop the FCS games so long as they remain on our schedule while they stink.

Had a conversation with a couple of UCONN coaches prior to the USC/UCLA news. They seem to believe they will end up in the ACC or possibly the Big Ten.