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sstaedtler wrote: ↑November 6th, 2021, 1:11 am I'm very happy and relieved about this. I admit being angry with JMU and ODU who act like they are above us and to me, really were the reason they and Marshall left for the Sun Belt...a lot because of us. Anyway, this conference is already better than the MAC and Sun Belt in basketball, better than the MAC in baseball, and about equal to the Sun Belt in baseball. I like that we keep our 2022 schedule and we may even get rid of the UMASS and UCONN games in our 2023 schedule. I'd love to get rid of the FCS games also. I am undecided on whether UMass and UConn are good for the conference in football because they are only one sport and not really a geographic fit, at least right now. Sam Houston and Jacksonville St. are two decent FCS call ups.What in the world does LU have to do with JMU,ODU,Marshall leaving for the SunBelt - which is arguably now the best G5 Conference. Did I miss a memo- we were invited and turned it down? Please explain.
tyndal23 wrote: ↑November 6th, 2021, 12:57 am The Die is cast - Go Flames ! Make lemonade out of lemons, rule the roost, Conquer CUSA, Beat NMSU ? ( not sure who or rival is yet - but beat whoever ). Thrilled we have regional rivals now that will pack The Bill and we no longer have to worry about scheduling too many P5 games. Go Flames ( did I say that already ) ?Ever hear of Dunning Kruger? I feel like you're very far left on the graph and Ian is very far right. You need to chill out a bit and recognize that maybe you don't know everything that goes in to these type of decisions.
Kricket wrote: ↑November 6th, 2021, 8:10 amNot sure how I could have been any more positive in my post. The decision has been made, I am all in.tyndal23 wrote: ↑November 6th, 2021, 12:57 am The Die is cast - Go Flames ! Make lemonade out of lemons, rule the roost, Conquer CUSA, Beat NMSU ? ( not sure who or rival is yet - but beat whoever ). Thrilled we have regional rivals now that will pack The Bill and we no longer have to worry about scheduling too many P5 games. Go Flames ( did I say that already ) ?Ever hear of Dunning Kruger? I feel like you're very far left on the graph and Ian is very far right. You need to chill out a bit and recognize that maybe you don't know everything that goes in to these type of decisions.
For one, I have never heard you reference anything but football. In basketball we undoubtedly improved. As bad as you act like football will be, our basketball schedule is much much worse in the A-Sun. Football rules the roost for now, but it's not hard to envision a future that football isn't king anymore. Either way, there are more factors than football.
Two, you don't know how much our success and potential for other independents to be in conferences will impact our ability to schedule. Ian is going through it every day and you think you know better? You think he just has a really small vision for Liberty athletics? You think he really doesn't mean it when he says we have P5 potential?
I'm sure we will hear the reasoning from Ian at some point, and since he's fairly competent I think he will have good reasons for the move and also will have a plan to grow us into a P5 type school going forward.
Also, something tells me this may not be our last stint as an independent in football. It's not as hard to leave a conference once you're in one as it is to go the other way.
tyndal23 wrote: ↑November 6th, 2021, 11:20 amok, maybe I misread it as sarcasm. I don't think that's the case but I've been wrong before.Kricket wrote: ↑November 6th, 2021, 8:10 amNot sure how I could have been any more positive in my post. The decision has been made, I am all in.tyndal23 wrote: ↑November 6th, 2021, 12:57 am The Die is cast - Go Flames ! Make lemonade out of lemons, rule the roost, Conquer CUSA, Beat NMSU ? ( not sure who or rival is yet - but beat whoever ). Thrilled we have regional rivals now that will pack The Bill and we no longer have to worry about scheduling too many P5 games. Go Flames ( did I say that already ) ?Ever hear of Dunning Kruger? I feel like you're very far left on the graph and Ian is very far right. You need to chill out a bit and recognize that maybe you don't know everything that goes in to these type of decisions.
For one, I have never heard you reference anything but football. In basketball we undoubtedly improved. As bad as you act like football will be, our basketball schedule is much much worse in the A-Sun. Football rules the roost for now, but it's not hard to envision a future that football isn't king anymore. Either way, there are more factors than football.
Two, you don't know how much our success and potential for other independents to be in conferences will impact our ability to schedule. Ian is going through it every day and you think you know better? You think he just has a really small vision for Liberty athletics? You think he really doesn't mean it when he says we have P5 potential?
I'm sure we will hear the reasoning from Ian at some point, and since he's fairly competent I think he will have good reasons for the move and also will have a plan to grow us into a P5 type school going forward.
Also, something tells me this may not be our last stint as an independent in football. It's not as hard to leave a conference once you're in one as it is to go the other way.
thepostman wrote: ↑November 6th, 2021, 11:50 am Do you think their attendance numbers will go up at all with the move?Nowhere to go but up. Huntsville is a bit of a hike from most of Houston and Dallas. It requires a commitment of time. Huntsville is not a big town and even put their new medical school half a haour south in Conroe to be closer to real population. They won't be building attendance through locals. It has to be through student body and curious alumni.
JLFJR wrote:Thanks for your input, PA! Very helpful.
JLFJR wrote:Thanks for your input, PA! Very helpful.
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