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Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 2nd, 2020, 2:43 pm
by Rubicon
That's a glaring travesty. Good thing he's just a talking head, and not someone with clout!

https://www.si.com/college/2020/06/29/n ... ealignment

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 2nd, 2020, 3:31 pm
by ballcoach15
I guess that means Georgia Southern is relegated to Division II,

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 2nd, 2020, 6:20 pm
by Rubicon
No, he has them in his "Deep South" Conference.

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 2nd, 2020, 6:30 pm
by cruzan_flame13
With his ideology, the only choice for LU was the Mid-Atlantic conference, but that would mean we'll benefit even more. We can't have that happen, so kick them out even though they're financially well off to survive! :lol:

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 2nd, 2020, 7:03 pm
by Rubicon
It's completely idealogical. He acknowledged that Liberty has the financial resources and good momentum. And then you look at some of his other choices.

He has Troy relegated as well. They beat LSU, and are not an easy out for anyone.

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 2nd, 2020, 7:44 pm
by ATrain
Relegating us but leaving UMass, NM State, UConn...is he for real?

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 2nd, 2020, 9:30 pm
by LUOrange
Ok, that was a big waste of my time and another reason to get off my butt and cancel my SI subscription.

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 2nd, 2020, 9:38 pm
by cruzan_flame13
I usually watch people predictions about the upcoming seasons. So far I hear folks saying that we're a pretty good team.

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 3rd, 2020, 12:45 am
by Rubicon
ATrain wrote: July 2nd, 2020, 7:44 pm Relegating us but leaving UMass, NM State, UConn...is he for real?
They may not even be the worst ones. It's a joke of a list, and he's also smoking crack if he thinks the conferences are going to share the money like that, and give "lesser" programs a shot at rising to their level. The power five conferences won't allow it.

I think he's very wrong as far as how Liberty's football and basketball is regarded compared to others. Hugh Freeze made them very competitive offensively in his first season, and Liberty is known to have good resources for facilities, expansion, etc.

The only thing holding them back would be prejudice (religious, political, philosophical). That is an unspoken and unsaid behind the scenes reason, but it has nothing to do with sports.

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 3rd, 2020, 7:07 am
by olldflame
Pat Forde is a sports writer with nothing else to write about, so he comes up with this. Nobody who matters is paying attention.

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 3rd, 2020, 8:35 am
by Jonathan Carone
How are people taking something like this so seriously?

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 3rd, 2020, 9:17 am
by thepostman
A. It is what we do here

B. There has been a long time without any live sports. What do you expect?

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 3rd, 2020, 9:16 pm
by LUOrange
By Forde's rationale of demoting Troy because of their lack of an overall competitive program, we should've made his cut. We're competitive or even pretty good in almost all of our sports, but especially in the big ones. Oh well, at least it's something to talk about.

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 3rd, 2020, 9:40 pm
by ballcoach15
Overall we are better than most Sunbelt and Conference USA schools. And even some P5 schools.

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 3rd, 2020, 11:41 pm
by Ill flame
ballcoach15 wrote: July 3rd, 2020, 9:40 pm Overall we are better than most Sunbelt and Conference USA schools. And even some P5 schools.
We got beat pretty easily by a historically bad Rutgers team last year. What p5 teams are we better than?

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 4th, 2020, 7:45 am
by olldflame
Ill flame wrote: July 3rd, 2020, 11:41 pm
ballcoach15 wrote: July 3rd, 2020, 9:40 pm Overall we are better than most Sunbelt and Conference USA schools. And even some P5 schools.
We got beat pretty easily by a historically bad Rutgers team last year. What p5 teams are we better than?
In fairness, he was talking about overall, which would include all sports as well as facilities, and although as usual he has no facts to support it, I'm not going to say he is wrong.

Re: Liberty "relegated" to FCS by Pat Forde in realignment speculation

Posted: July 4th, 2020, 7:59 am
by Purple Haize
olldflame wrote: July 4th, 2020, 7:45 am
Ill flame wrote: July 3rd, 2020, 11:41 pm
ballcoach15 wrote: July 3rd, 2020, 9:40 pm Overall we are better than most Sunbelt and Conference USA schools. And even some P5 schools.
We got beat pretty easily by a historically bad Rutgers team last year. What p5 teams are we better than?
In fairness, he was talking about overall, which would include all sports as well as facilities, and although as usual he has no facts to support it, I'm not going to say he is wrong.
By ‘overall’ he just means softball