[FlamesHighontheTide]

Just for fun what would your 2020 pre-spring ball depth chart look like(this includes 2020 recruiting class)

Offense:

QB - Malik Willis (Jr.)
HB - Joshua Mack (Sr.)
TE - Johnny Huntley (Sr.)
WR 1 - Jaivian Lofton (Jr.-Juco) - 2020 class
WR 2 - C.J. Yarbrough (R. Fresh.)
WR 3 - D.J. Stubbs (Sr.)
LT - Bryce Matthews (Grad. Transfer) - 2020 class
LG - Damien Bounds (Sr.)
C - Thomas Sargeant (Sr.)
RG - Brendan Schlitter (R. Soph)
RT - Tristan Schultz (Sr.)

Defense:

DE - Treshaun Clark (So.) - 2019 starter (at times)
DE - Austin Lewis (Jr.) - 2019 starter (at times)
DT - Ralfs Rusins (Sr.) - 2019 starter
DT - Elijah James (Sr.)
LB - Anthony Butler (Grad. Transfer) - 2020 class
LB - Tyren Dupree (So.)
DB - Keitrel Clark (So.) - 2019 starter (at times)
DB - Juawan Treadwell (Jr. Juco) - 2020 class
FS - Javon Scruggs (Jr.) - 2019 starter
SS - Isaac Steele (Sr.) - 2019 starter
Rover - Marcus Haskins (Jr. Juco) - 2020 class

[sstaedtler]

I don't like Mack as the starting RB. He's good at running up the middle, but running to the outside or catches passes outside for him are very difficult. I like him as a change of pace back, but I want someone more like Hickson with a little more wiggle.

[BJWilliams]

Here are our remaining running backs heading into spring football (not counting January enrollees)

Frank Boyd 5'11" 190 Lbs
Gabriel Elliott 5'10" 190 Lbs
Troy Henderson 5'10" 180 Lbs
Domonhic Jennings 5'11" 205 Lbs
Josh Mack 6'0 195 Lbs
Peyton Pickett 5'10 210 Lbs
Treon Sibley 6'0 190 Lbs

[Dalegarz1]

Really could use a big (210-220) back.

[Cider Jim]

Didn't Coach Freeze say that he has converting a defensive player (or receiver) to a running back? Somebody help me with a name.

[LU 57]

Didn't Coach Freeze say that he has converting a defensive player (or receiver) to a running back? Somebody help me with a name.

I thought he said Shedro Louis.

[olldflame]

Didn't Coach Freeze say that he has converting a defensive player (or receiver) to a running back? Somebody help me with a name.

I thought he said Shedro Louis.

Treon Sibley

[A Sea of Red]

Shedro Louis

https://www.aseaofred.com/everything-hu ... ing-class/

[olldflame]

Shedro Louis

https://www.aseaofred.com/everything-hu ... ing-class/

I missed that. I hope they don't get carried away trying to put too much weight on him to play RB. I still believe his major contribution may be as a KR.

[tyndal23]

Didn't Coach Freeze say that he has converting a defensive player (or receiver) to a running back? Somebody help me with a name.

I thought he said Shedro Louis.

Treon Sibley

Shedro Louis
https://www.aseaofred.com/everything-hu ... ing-class/

[Chippy]

DJ Abnar was 5'10" 185 lbs and was a starter. Louis is 5'8" and 175. I would be surprised if he added any more weight. He would be a change of pace back and would be a receiver in the backfield getting screens, flares, dump downs, pitches and wheel routes with the obligatory run up the middle once a game. Don't see him getting the work DJ got and really can't see him blocking 300 lb D linemen or 230 lb LBs.

[tyndal23]

He needs the ball in his hands 8-10 times a game in the exact manner Chippy described.

[A Sea of Red]

Here's our crack at the first projected depth chart for the 2020 team

https://www.aseaofred.com/libertys-2020 ... pth-chart/

[R i]

Offense:
QB - Malik Willis (Jr.)
HB - Joshua Mack (Sr.)
TE - Johnny Huntley (Sr.)
WR 1 - Jaivian Lofton (Jr.-Juco) - 2020 class
WR 2 - C.J. Yarbrough (R. Fresh.)
WR 3 - D.J. Stubbs (Sr.)
LT - Bryce Matthews (Grad. Transfer) - 2020 class
LG - Damien Bounds (Sr.)
C - Thomas Sargeant (Sr.)
RG - Brendan Schlitter (R. Soph)
RT - Tristan Schultz (Sr.)

Defense:

DE - Treshaun Clark (So.) - 2019 starter (at times)
DE - Austin Lewis (Jr.) - 2019 starter (at times)
DT - Ralfs Rusins (Sr.) - 2019 starter
DT - William Green - 2019 Redshirt
LB - Anthony Butler (Grad. Transfer) - 2020 class
LB - Tyren Dupree (So.)
DB - Keitrel Clark (So.) - 2019 starter (at times)
DB - Marcus Haskins (Jr. Juco) - 2020 class
FS - Ceneca Espinoza Jr
SS - Juawan Treadwell (Jr. Juco) - 2020 class
Rover - Javon Scruggs (Jr.) - 2019 starter

DBs could all get switched around, there is a ton of depth there. I think we will see 45 combos of DBs starting and playing next year.

A few surprises Manson, Amari Jenkins probably wont start over grad transfer Butler. Freeze wasnt high on the LB core this year, I see him shaking it up. It feels like Tank Land will be moved all over the place, not sure he fits at SS as well.

William Green is a big big dude, and I think he could take the starting spot from James, but either way they both will play a ton of snaps per game.

[ballah09]

Is Kidd Glass not on the roster? He’s not in your projected two deep. He should be starting at Safety. A lot better than Espinsoza

[R i]

Is Kidd Glass not on the roster? He’s not in your projected two deep. He should be starting at Safety. A lot better than Espinsoza

Good catch. Forgot about him. Man we are so loaded at DB next year, definite strength of the team.

[FlamesHighontheTide]

Holy smokes, yeah I completely forgot about Tim Kidd Glass.

[jinxy]

Shedro is doing what he does best. I think he should be returning punts too. Stubbs has been miserable at it as has everyone else that weve put back there.

I dont see shedro getting snaps ahead of troy henderson. I Thought both he and boyd have looked good when theyve gotten opportunities.

Starters at wr wont matter much but youll see stubbs/douglas a ton and lofton yarbrough frith shaa jackson and coleman all outside.

[Jonathan Carone]

Why have we been so much worse at returns the last couple years? We had a run from like 06-13 where our return game was pretty strong.

[R i]

W. Jackson aint coming through those doors.

[Jonathan Carone]

W. Jackson aint coming through those doors.

What about Dominic Bolden?

[flamehunter]

Or Kevin Fogg?

[R i]

Return game is one of the plays in football that you can just pure out athlete people. Back when some of those names that have been mentioned were returning punts, they were easily the fastest and most athletic on the field.

FBS has 4.4 linebackers on special teams.

I would be interested to see the percentage of punts returned for touchdown at FCS vs FBS.

[LUDad]

Why have we been so much worse at returns the last couple years? We had a run from like 06-13 where our return game was pretty strong.

It's all about depth. We are not playing fcs schedules anymore. While we may have had enough talent to win some fbs games, in others, we run out of gas middle of 3d-4th qtr. because starters wear down. We may have a talented returner but we also need talent blocking for him. As we start stacking better recruiting classes we will have better athletes on special teams to block and tackle. Then I think we will see some dramatic gains in this arena.

[R i]

I think the list below had a minimum of returns at 10 or so. But you can see we are at the bottom on punt return average in the country. This blows my point out of the water, we just need to improve a ton. Doesn't matter FCS or FBS, we need to improve. Depth is the biggest thing here as stated above.


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