[thepostman]

I have a very vague memory of that. I couldn't give you any more details. Made me laugh at the time.

[BlueBlood]

Do some of you guys live in Dallas or something? A few weeks ago I was enjoying the dialogue on here - I think the whole idea of Independent vs G5 is an intriguing topic. Then all of the sudden the whole thread was hijacked and became about playing games in Dallas - so I jumped off. Checked back in today and people are still talking about Dallas. What the heck?

I'm still undecided on the IND vs conference issue. I'm a football fan and watch a lot of football. I can get into Mountain West games (some of those teams are the big fish in their state and the games feel bigger than they probably are because of it) and sometimes the AAC (where a couple teams are P5-similar). I generally have a hard time watching the other G5 conferences. My current inclination is that any G5 below MW/AAC level of play/intrigue is probably not worth joining. And given that MW is geographically out, I'm really down to the AAC being the only G5 that I think LU should even consider. And even then, I kind of like the idea of staying IND.

In theory, I like the idea of IND.

My biggest concern re IND is that I think some of the P5 games will dry up if Liberty becomes more competitive. There is a hump that LU needs to get over between now (where ACC and SEC schools view LU as an FBS win on their schedule) and achieving BYU-level acceptance as a competitive program that schools will get "credit" for scheluding. Even then, many P5 schools only schedule one competitive non-conference game per year. Will we find enough P5s that want their one competive non-conference game to be LU? I'm not sure.

More schools going IND would help (does UConn ever decide to rejoing the BE and play IND FB?, would Cincy consider the same?). Current IND schools leaving would hurt (NM St eventually to the MW?, Army joining Navy in AAC?, UMass going somewhere?, etc).

Lots of moving parts, lots of issues to consider.

[Sly Fox]

For the record, I firmly do NOT live in DFW. Although my Greater Houston friends joke about my location as being South Dallas. I am a 2.5 hour drive south of all of that pretention. There seems ot be a fixation on Jerry Jones' company hosting neutral site games. We do the same down here in Houston in a mor reasonable stadium. But for some reason the fixation is on JerryWorld.

[thepostman]

Its 1 guy who keeps bringing it up but thankfully he has promised not to do so anymore.

[Jonathan Carone]

Do some of you guys live in Dallas or something? A few weeks ago I was enjoying the dialogue on here - I think the whole idea of Independent vs G5 is an intriguing topic. Then all of the sudden the whole thread was hijacked and became about playing games in Dallas - so I jumped off. Checked back in today and people are still talking about Dallas. What the heck?

I'm still undecided on the IND vs conference issue. I'm a football fan and watch a lot of football. I can get into Mountain West games (some of those teams are the big fish in their state and the games feel bigger than they probably are because of it) and sometimes the AAC (where a couple teams are P5-similar). I generally have a hard time watching the other G5 conferences. My current inclination is that any G5 below MW/AAC level of play/intrigue is probably not worth joining. And given that MW is geographically out, I'm really down to the AAC being the only G5 that I think LU should even consider. And even then, I kind of like the idea of staying IND.

In theory, I like the idea of IND.

My biggest concern re IND is that I think some of the P5 games will dry up if Liberty becomes more competitive. There is a hump that LU needs to get over between now (where ACC and SEC schools view LU as an FBS win on their schedule) and achieving BYU-level acceptance as a competitive program that schools will get "credit" for scheluding. Even then, many P5 schools only schedule one competitive non-conference game per year. Will we find enough P5s that want their one competive non-conference game to be LU? I'm not sure.

More schools going IND would help (does UConn ever decide to rejoing the BE and play IND FB?, would Cincy consider the same?). Current IND schools leaving would hurt (NM St eventually to the MW?, Army joining Navy in AAC?, UMass going somewhere?, etc).

Lots of moving parts, lots of issues to consider.

Please stay. We need more rational thought around here and less of the types of posts driving this thread lately.

[Class of 20Something]

What about doing it in a soccer stadium? Children's Mercy Park in KC, seats about 20k, multiple military installations within a 2 hour radius.

[Jonathan Carone]

It's yet to be proven why military members would want to take out 6-8 hours on a day of leave to come to a football game with schools they don't really care about.

[R i]

Seeing the "All Independent" honorees was kind of eye opening to just how lost we are without a conference. Will they have preseason honors ? Our strength of schedule will drastically change over the next few seasons, and I still think independent is the best place for us to grow really large really fast. But for stability, I am looking forward to the day we have a conference affiliation. I will also miss Big South Basketball

[Jonathan Carone]

I will also miss Big South Basketball

It's been weird not having a conference to follow this fall. I'm excited to get back to looking at standings and how other teams are doing.

[ballcoach15]

As for the military connection pertaining to scheduling, LU already has Military Appreciation Day each season. It's probably the best halftime show in college football. It would be good if LU could bring in one of the service academies for this game.

First Sergeant
U.S. Army
Retired

[tyndal23]

What about doing it in a soccer stadium? Children's Mercy Park in KC, seats about 20k, multiple military installations within a 2 hour radius.

Needs to be in Dallas for recruiting. Can start it in Dallas Indoor Practice Facility 12.5k, move to Frisco Pizza Hut 20.5k and on to AT&T if it grows. Focus is more on Vets not active Military ( free tickets - Wonded Warrior all the charities set up for Military would have a presence) ). Military attending would be there would mainly be ones required for ceremonial, parade, trade show brass etc. LAST POST I PROMISE

[Jonathan Carone]

Thank God.

[BlueBlood]

Needs to be in Dallas for recruiting.

Oh geez. Here we go again.

[rogers3]

What about doing it in a soccer stadium? Children's Mercy Park in KC, seats about 20k, multiple military installations within a 2 hour radius.

Needs to be in Dallas for recruiting. Can start it in Dallas Indoor Practice Facility 12.5k, move to Frisco Pizza Hut 20.5k and on to AT&T if it grows. Focus is more on Vets not active Military ( free tickets - Wonded Warrior all the charities set up for Military would have a presence) ). Military attending would be there would mainly be ones required for ceremonial, parade, trade show brass etc. LAST POST I PROMISE

Are you interested in buying a business? You are just the kind of “visionary” I’m looking for!

[Purple Haize]

It's yet to be proven why military members would want to take out 6-8 hours on a day of leave to come to a football game with schools they don't really care about.

Vision

[thepostman]

I have been in the military for nearly 10 years now and know many who have connections to LU online and it is like pulling teeth to get them to care at all about liberty athletics. A random game in Texas would fail for that exact reason.

Military appreciation day at the Bill is a great tradition and I actually agree with ballcoach (wtf is going in here) and think it would be only fitting to have military appreciation when we bring Army in.

[Purple Haize]

I have been in the military for nearly 10 years now and know many who have connections to LU online and it is like pulling teeth to get them to care at all about liberty athletics. A random game in Texas would fail for that exact reason.

Military appreciation day at the Bill is a great tradition and I actually agree with ballcoach (Stupid Hose is going in here) and think it would be only fitting to have military appreciation when we bring Army in.

But it’s NOT some random game. It’s a special game! Because it’s Liberty and the Military and Texas! That’s SPECIAL.

[ballcoach15]

Speaking from experience, it's hard to get the troops to a ball game, even when free tickets are involved.

[JK37]

Free tickets are a terrible way to promote anything.

[alabama24]

Speaking from experience, it's hard to get the troops to a ball game, even when free tickets are involved.

Maybe Trump could order them to attend.

[thepostman]

Along with that 10% raise??? If so I'm in!!

[CCWMichael]

Speaking from experience, it's hard to get the troops to a ball game, even when free tickets are involved.

I agree 100% with ballcoah15.

Anybody saving this for future use will be waterboarded.

I have a friend with MWR (morale, welfare, and recreation) who is intimate with the Military Bowl folks.
Plenty of folks near Baltimore that are military ... a local team was involved and yet only 7% of free tickets were utilized *according to my sources*
I did not want ballcoach15 to think I was poaching.

[thepostman]

Because us military folks like to hang with our families during the holidays if we have the opportunity. Crazy i know.

[Purple Haize]

Speaking from experience, it's hard to get the troops to a ball game, even when free tickets are involved.

I agree 100% with ballcoah15.

Anybody saving this for future use will be waterboarded.

I have a friend with MWR (morale, welfare, and recreation) who is intimate with the Military Bowl folks.
Plenty of folks near Baltimore that are military ... a local team was involved and yet only 7% of free tickets were utilized *according to my sources*
I did not want ballcoach15 to think I was poaching.

Your #sources are far more credible than ballcoach

[tyndal23]

Looks like Houston just upped the game for G5 coaching salaries - $4m a year for Dana H ? Looks like their Billionaire donor trying to buy them in to P5.