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flameshaw wrote:I'm not sure if we knew that going in or not. Although small sample size, Smith was throwing for 65% coming into Liberty and proceeded to go 7/9 with 90 yards and a TD to start the game. We were stopping the run during that time.tyndal23 wrote:No one predicted us to even hang with Troy physically. I am excited that we learned how to tackle and limit the run for 4 quarters. Secondary is an issue still but dramatic improvement.No intent to be unduly negative, but it should be pretty easy to stop the run, when you know the other team can't pass the ball. However, any improvement over the last few weeks, is more than welcome.
Jonathan Carone wrote:Students show up significantly less the earlier the game is. That’s been proven and is why we used to never have a game before 3:30. I like the idea of a 2pm kick a lot personally for many different reasons, but we will have to be willing to accept a sleepier crowd and fewer students.Me too. Helps me with my 6 hour drive home to be in just under midnight.
Liberty22 wrote:I’m just loving that the teams coming into Lynchburg are who they are. So much better playing Troy vs GWU or Presbyterian.Ditto.
willflop wrote:He was billed a very good passer, and a better runner than the guy he replaced. I believe on his first run we forced a fumble.flameshaw wrote:I'm not sure if we knew that going in or not. Although small sample size, Smith was throwing for 65% coming into and proceeded to go 7/9 with 90 yards and a TD to start the game. We were stopping the run during that time.tyndal23 wrote:No one predicted us to even hang with Troy physically. I am excited that we learned how to tackle and limit the run for 4 quarters. Secondary is an issue still but dramatic improvement.No intent to be unduly negative, but it should be pretty easy to stop the run, when you know the other team can't pass the ball. However, any improvement over the last few weeks, is more than welcome.
Liberty22 wrote:I’m just loving that the teams coming into Lynchburg are who they are. So much better playing Troy vs GWU or Presbyterian.+1
Jonathan Carone wrote:I think the low attendance shows the lack of excitement and low expectations around the program from alumni and out of town fans. You’re relying predominantly on students, their families, and locals. 17k is a great base and is right in line with where we’ve been the last few years. We just haven’t created a reason for 5000 out of town fans to drive in and spend the day on the mountain.Agree 100%. I live 2.5 hours away. I probably wouldn't have come to yesterday's game after that big turd we left in NM. However, I did have some out-of-state family in L'burg, so I made the trip. It is hard to make that drive with such a Jeckel and Hyde team effort, inconsistent performances, etc. Because of the many detours yesterday from the Hurricane, I almost came back home about an hour out from my house. Glad I still made the trip, the win was worth it.
rtb72 wrote:Team played a good game....defense was the key. I agree with Jon that the jury is still out on how monumental this win was. Are we going to consistently perform week in and week out? It seems we go through this every year. Big win...Big Loss....Big win....Big loss.....below expectation season....repeat....Good post.
Hopefully, there won't be a St. Francis moment this year...we win the ones we should win and are competitive as practical in the other games. I also believe it would be inappropriate to give a lot of credit to Gill. When we underperform...he puts it on the players or one of the staff. Can't have it both ways....
flameshaw wrote:I've noticed 2/3's of FBS teams are doing the same thing. Only a handful are consistent week in and week outJonathan Carone wrote:I think the low attendance shows the lack of excitement and low expectations around the program from alumni and out of town fans. You’re relying predominantly on students, their families, and locals. 17k is a great base and is right in line with where we’ve been the last few years. We just haven’t created a reason for 5000 out of town fans to drive in and spend the day on the mountain.Agree 100%. I live 2.5 hours away. I probably wouldn't have come to yesterday's game after that big turd we left in NM. However, I did have some out-of-state family in L'burg, so I made the trip. It is hard to make that drive with such a Jeckel and Hyde team effort, inconsistent performances, etc. Because of the many detours yesterday from the Hurricane, I almost came back home about an hour out from my house. Glad I still made the trip, the win was worth it.
WE BEAT COASTAL Jonathan Carone wrote:Its what comes after the “But” that people really want to say.Jonathan Carone wrote:First off - yes, it is a good win. Every FBS win is a good win.This is the first thing I said before discussing anything else but God forbid we try to bring nuance and critical thinking into a conversation around here. You’re automatically labeled a hater or negative if you don’t immediately shotgun the kool aid.
Jonathan Carone wrote:I think the low attendance shows the lack of excitement and low expectations around the program from alumni and out of town fans. You’re relying predominantly on students, their families, and locals. 17k is a great base and is right in line with where we’ve been the last few years. We just haven’t created a reason for 5000 out of town fans to drive in and spend the day on the mountain.This however is spot on and always been the #1 issue regarding any move up to FBS. LU has always had a soft fan base outside the TRBC sphere and even within it certainly can’t be categorized as rabid. As stated below your post somewhere the vast majority of LU fans don’t know the difference between Troy and Gardner Webb. Or care.
Purple Haize wrote:I know we aren’t a school drawing droves of people but some of you act like we draw peanuts. Take a look at 3/4 of the G5 crowds on tv or in photos. We outdraw (on a good weather day) at least 50% if not pushing 70% of G5 programs. I’m talking look at the stands not announced numbers. I was disappointed at yesterday’s attendance too but then I took a step back and thought about it. Even while we were FCS we’ve always drawn pretty well. We’re known for traveling well too amongst FCS anyways. That’ll be learned in the G5 world soon enough. My point is there’s a ton we should be thankful for attendance wise that a lot of G5’s can’t be.Jonathan Carone wrote:I think the low attendance shows the lack of excitement and low expectations around the program from alumni and out of town fans. You’re relying predominantly on students, their families, and locals. 17k is a great base and is right in line with where we’ve been the last few years. We just haven’t created a reason for 5000 out of town fans to drive in and spend the day on the mountain.This however is spot on and always been the #1 issue regarding any move up to FBS. LU has always had a soft fan base outside the TRBC sphere and even within it certainly can’t be categorized as rabid. As stated below your post somewhere the vast majority of LU fans don’t know the difference between Troy and Gardner Webb. Or care.
Overcoming this hurdle is the biggest challenge to the Department. There is a reason why the “If you build it they will come” philosophy only works in the movies
Jonathan Carone wrote:Dude. “17k is a great base” is right there in the post. How is saying something is “great” acting like we are drawing peanuts?Dude. I never said you. I said some of you. The whole worlds not out to get you Carone.
Jonathan Carone wrote:You quoted my post. That’s usually a sign that you’re speaking directly to what someone said.I was quoting PH response to your post but not just PH, but the others who always act like we don’t draw well. I was too lazy to delete your post as I’m on my phone and it’s annoying waiting word by word as you delete on a phone.
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