- September 30th, 2018, 7:38 pm
#559580
Moderators: jcmanson, Sly Fox, BuryYourDuke, Class of 20Something
--Fumble (1961-2009), RIPJK37 wrote:I’ve heard tons of coaches in many sports use similar exaggeration to describe excessive contact upon a player. This cosch’s Mistake was doing so publicly, in the midst of the #metoo movement.Even though I would agree that the coach should have used a better choice of words, I think the reaction to it is a bit extreme. The coach should have been aware that in this “Snowflake Generation” using the wrong words leads to extreme backlash. He should have known that those who call for awareness and sensitivity don’t practice the same. It troubles me that just because the man has gray hair you automatically labeled him as bad. I can assure you that all gray-haired men aren’t bad and insensitive. I don’t think having a knee-jerk reaction to everything is progress. But what do I know, I’m just a man with a few gray hairs on my head. Now if you will excuse me, I’m going to thumb through the Yellow Pages to see if there are any sensitivity classes in my area.
Ten years ago, I doubt this would’ve been such an issue. That’s the progress that has been made with this movement. Awareness and sensitivity.
The first thing I looked for was a picture of the coach to deduce his age. Just as I expected, gray-haired male. Hopefully the sensitivity training will do him some good.
BigRed1 wrote: It troubles me that just because the man has gray hair you automatically labeled him as bad.I don't see where he labeled him as bad. I see the gray haired statement being one that confirms he comes from a different generation where comments like that were norm.
Jonathan Carone wrote:Do you honestly believe that the “Snowflake Generation” is about sensitivity and inclusion? I’ll give you the sensitivity part, but the inclusion part? According to a Brookings survey, 51 percent of students believe that it is just fine to shout down a speaker with whom they disagree and prevent them from presenting their views. Among left-leaning students, the number who believe it is ok to disrupt a speaker is 62 percent. Two out of ten college students believe that it is permissible for student group to use violence to prevent a controversial speaker from speaking. And the problem is not just on the left. Slightly more Republicans (22 percent) agreed with this sentiment than did Democrats (20 percent). Many have long suspected that Millennials are a generation of “snowflakes” afraid of words they disagree with. Now, sadly, we have the data to prove it. It seems that today’s college students, whose understanding of the First Amendment and commitment to free speech appears to be more in line with Antifa than the Founding Fathers.BigRed1 wrote: It troubles me that just because the man has gray hair you automatically labeled him as bad.I don't see where he labeled him as bad. I see the gray haired statement being one that confirms he comes from a different generation where comments like that were norm.
I'm all for sensitivity and inclusion and all those things the "snowflake generation" you mention is about. But I also think a one-game suspension was a step too far. Fine him for the word but let him continue coaching.
Sly Fox wrote:Wow, talk about a mischaracterization of your parents/grandparents. I'll grant you the college tuition portion of the concept but the cheap houses idea is a total fallacy. Their generation placed a priority on home ownership and sacrificed in order to make it happen. Millennials and the generation to follow are often not willing to sacrifice their present life experience to future gratification. Yes, I am familiar with the burden of student debt on this generation. I am also aware of what it means to live beyond means. Most of the high income millennials that I work alongside are more than willing to pass on home ownership.I'm just trying to instigate. Every generational cohort has always hated the ones that preceded and followed. I am blessed to be a Millennial and hate the one I'm in too!
Rabbit trail forged!
Sly Fox wrote:Wow, talk about a mischaracterization of your parents/grandparents. I'll grant you the college tuition portion of the concept but the cheap houses idea is a total fallacy. Their generation placed a priority on home ownership and sacrificed in order to make it happen. Millennials and the generation to follow are often not willing to sacrifice their present life experience to future gratification. Yes, I am familiar with the burden of student debt on this generation. I am also aware of what it means to live beyond means. Most of the high income millennials that I work alongside are more than willing to pass on home ownership.Living beyond our means was very much taught to us by the generation who raised my generation. Combine that with the idea that college was the only path for success which was very much pushed on my generation by the previous generation gripped us in many ways. Obviously it is much more complicated than that but a lot of the issues people seem to nitpick from my generation and the generations that have followed could have been thwarted had the attitudes been a bit different. I am sure there will be flaws in my children's generation with how we choose to raise them but unlike the generation before me I will be willing to take responsibility for my shortcomings (which there will be). The pride of the older generation is a huge problem just as the arrogance of my generation is a problem. Each generation has their strengths and their weaknesses that much is true. I wish each generation would attempt a bit more to understand each other.
Rabbit trail forged!
thepostman wrote:I guess he was a bit fired up...My issue is that too many words are being hijacked from the english language under the guise of sensitivity. Most words have different meaning depending on their context. One should not be confined to merely one use of word.
https://sports.yahoo.com/umass-football ... 28850.html
--Fumble (1961-2009), RIPthepostman wrote:Millennials didn't give themselves participation trophies.Sly Fox wrote:Wow, talk about a mischaracterization of your parents/grandparents. I'll grant you the college tuition portion of the concept but the cheap houses idea is a total fallacy. Their generation placed a priority on home ownership and sacrificed in order to make it happen. Millennials and the generation to follow are often not willing to sacrifice their present life experience to future gratification. Yes, I am familiar with the burden of student debt on this generation. I am also aware of what it means to live beyond means. Most of the high income millennials that I work alongside are more than willing to pass on home ownership.Living beyond our means was very much taught to us by the generation who raised my generation. Combine that with the idea that college was the only path for success which was very much pushed on my generation by the previous generation gripped us in many ways. Obviously it is much more complicated than that but a lot of the issues people seem to nitpick from my generation and the generations that have followed could have been thwarted had the attitudes been a bit different. I am sure there will be flaws in my children's generation with how we choose to raise them but unlike the generation before me I will be willing to take responsibility for my shortcomings (which there will be). The pride of the older generation is a huge problem just as the arrogance of my generation is a problem. Each generation has their strengths and their weaknesses that much is true. I wish each generation would attempt a bit more to understand each other.
Rabbit trail forged!
I fully admit I am pretty poor at that.
Cider Jim wrote:And we worked part-time jobs rather than taking out student loans.
Students at public four-year institutions paid an average of $3,190 in tuition for the 1987-1988 school year, with prices adjusted to reflect 2017 dollars. Thirty years later, that average has risen to $9,970 for the 2017-2018 school year. That's a 213 percent increase.https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/29/how-muc ... -2018.html
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