- October 21st, 2017, 10:12 pm
#539083
WE BEAT COASTAL
Alrighty,
Allow me my two cents worth. There are some that love tg and some that want him gone. This goes for this board and those beyond. So, I will begin with an old statement I once heard: “Love is blind, your neighbor is not”. Yes, we can be blinded by love, allegiance, or whatever else we plant our flag so dearly in. Let me be clear this is not a moral judgement against anyone nor a slight on any playing career, just coaching as a head coach.
Let us look at this without regression analysis but still hold to the statistics. Recall, numbers do not lie. So, I will begin with stating a simple record (statistical fact). Gill as a head coach: Buffalo 2-10, 5-7, 8-6, 5-7 overall. Conference 1-7, 5-3, 5-3, 3-5. Kansa 3-9, 2-10. Conference 1-7, 0-9. Liberty 6-5, 8-4, 9-5, 6-5, 6-5, and as I write 3-3. Conference 5-1, 4-1, 4-1, 3-3, 4-1, and as I write 0-1. Pretty clear Liberty is his best overall outing with one playoff showing where 1-1 was the result. Some will say his 8-6, 5-3 outing at Buffalo when Buffalo went to the international bowl was his best. The bowl game was earned by an upset of 12-0 Ball State in the championship for the conference. The international bowl game was a loss to 7-5 Connecticut. Overall a losing coaching record.
Let’s just look at Liberty now. After all, the numbers count here as this is his current job. 38-28 overall (before Monmouth 10.21.17). Average at liberty 6.3 wins, 4.66 losses. Without throwing out statistical probabilities I would assume it is safe to say average. Now we can expand this comparing conference strengths and common opponents but that would require much mathematical work. So, from her I digress to my opinion (opinion means non-statistical)
Let’s admit, the Big South is not considered by any means a football conference. Heck, we just earned an automatic bid into the playoffs. Great man with faith but by no means does this create an individual who is a top performer. He is average as a coach. Losses at Liberty to average or less than average teams. Some good wins mixed in but still average. Let me assume I were at a division 1 school would I hire Turner Gill? Heck, even back when Gill was a hot prospect Nebraska did not even want him. Kansas took him for two years and even bought him out to let him go. At best he is a coordinator at D1 or can coach D2 or 3. Just imagine if Auburn had hired him. I would not hire him for coaching. If we want to win the numbers alone tell us he is not the guy to take us to the next level.
REDO. I had to leave for a family outing and Liberty gave up a 60 burger!!!!!!!!!!! So, one more extremely poor loss to an inferior team. Is that enough said? I think so. This team is so poorly coached.
Good luck in the future Mr. Gill.
FIRE GILL.
Allow me my two cents worth. There are some that love tg and some that want him gone. This goes for this board and those beyond. So, I will begin with an old statement I once heard: “Love is blind, your neighbor is not”. Yes, we can be blinded by love, allegiance, or whatever else we plant our flag so dearly in. Let me be clear this is not a moral judgement against anyone nor a slight on any playing career, just coaching as a head coach.
Let us look at this without regression analysis but still hold to the statistics. Recall, numbers do not lie. So, I will begin with stating a simple record (statistical fact). Gill as a head coach: Buffalo 2-10, 5-7, 8-6, 5-7 overall. Conference 1-7, 5-3, 5-3, 3-5. Kansa 3-9, 2-10. Conference 1-7, 0-9. Liberty 6-5, 8-4, 9-5, 6-5, 6-5, and as I write 3-3. Conference 5-1, 4-1, 4-1, 3-3, 4-1, and as I write 0-1. Pretty clear Liberty is his best overall outing with one playoff showing where 1-1 was the result. Some will say his 8-6, 5-3 outing at Buffalo when Buffalo went to the international bowl was his best. The bowl game was earned by an upset of 12-0 Ball State in the championship for the conference. The international bowl game was a loss to 7-5 Connecticut. Overall a losing coaching record.
Let’s just look at Liberty now. After all, the numbers count here as this is his current job. 38-28 overall (before Monmouth 10.21.17). Average at liberty 6.3 wins, 4.66 losses. Without throwing out statistical probabilities I would assume it is safe to say average. Now we can expand this comparing conference strengths and common opponents but that would require much mathematical work. So, from her I digress to my opinion (opinion means non-statistical)
Let’s admit, the Big South is not considered by any means a football conference. Heck, we just earned an automatic bid into the playoffs. Great man with faith but by no means does this create an individual who is a top performer. He is average as a coach. Losses at Liberty to average or less than average teams. Some good wins mixed in but still average. Let me assume I were at a division 1 school would I hire Turner Gill? Heck, even back when Gill was a hot prospect Nebraska did not even want him. Kansas took him for two years and even bought him out to let him go. At best he is a coordinator at D1 or can coach D2 or 3. Just imagine if Auburn had hired him. I would not hire him for coaching. If we want to win the numbers alone tell us he is not the guy to take us to the next level.
REDO. I had to leave for a family outing and Liberty gave up a 60 burger!!!!!!!!!!! So, one more extremely poor loss to an inferior team. Is that enough said? I think so. This team is so poorly coached.
Good luck in the future Mr. Gill.
FIRE GILL.
WE BEAT COASTAL 
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