[Ewglenn]

Would y'all be interested in a coach that runs the triple option? I always hated playing the service academies or GT. They are so efficient and it levels the playing field in terms of talent gap. Maybe a good triple option could cause problems for teams leading to wins?

[Ewglenn]

Would y'all be interested in a coach that runs the triple option? I always hated playing the service academies or GT. They are so efficient and it levels the playing field in terms of talent gap. Maybe a good triple option could cause problems for teams leading to wins?

ballcoach would be a hard NO

To me that fits ‘Putting stamp on Program ‘

I mean it's boring to me but I also will get over that if they are winning.

[Purple Haize]

Would y'all be interested in a coach that runs the triple option? I always hated playing the service academies or GT. They are so efficient and it levels the playing field in terms of talent gap. Maybe a good triple option could cause problems for teams leading to wins?

ballcoach would be a hard NO

To me that fits ‘Putting stamp on Program ‘

I mean it's boring to me but I also will get over that if they are winning.

I think with Buckshot it’s not a good idea and a waste of talent.
But I actually find it entertaining to watch. You literally never know which one play will break for 80 yds. Because any play could

[Jonathan Carone]

Would y'all be interested in a coach that runs the triple option? I always hated playing the service academies or GT. They are so efficient and it levels the playing field in terms of talent gap. Maybe a good triple option could cause problems for teams leading to wins?

It’s not my ideal but I could see the value in it. We are in a similar situation as the academies in that our code of conduct makes coming here something many high end athletes wouldn’t be interested in. The option is the equalizer. I’d prefer the spread option or the Chadwell option over the Johnson option but it definitely could work.

[rtb72]

I personally like the Elon coach. A Christian school close by that is winning. Elon has never won much of anything. So it's pretty impressive.

I agree the new Elon coach is starting to bring the program around for the first time in a long time. I think some more time will truly dictate how effective he is...but this year they have really done well. As for it being a Christian school. That is no longer how they affiliate themselves. Elon removed the "Fighting Christians" mascot years ago....one reason was to become more secular. I think they have over achieved in that area. Elon is more liberal than Chapel Hill now. Some alumni have revealed sadness at the direction the University has gone idealogically and philosophically.

[Class of 20Something]

Would y'all be interested in a coach that runs the triple option? I always hated playing the service academies or GT. They are so efficient and it levels the playing field in terms of talent gap. Maybe a good triple option could cause problems for teams leading to wins?

It’s not my ideal but I could see the value in it. We are in a similar situation as the academies in that our code of conduct makes coming here something many high end athletes wouldn’t be interested in. The option is the equalizer. I’d prefer the spread option or the Chadwell option over the Johnson option but it definitely could work.

I'm sure you know why, but I'm sure a few here don't know why the TO favors service academies.

Every cadet at every service academy has to be able to pass that services Physical Fitness Test by the end of the spring semester. This limits your linemen a lot. A lot a lot.

Minimum passing scores for each service

Air Force

1.5 Mile Run - <13:36

Waist Measurement - <39"

Army

2 Mile Run - <15:54

Navy

Body Composition Assessment (Body Fat %) - <22%

1.5 Mile Run - <12:45

In summary the academies fitness standards lean on cardiovascular and aerobic fitness. This favors use of the triple option and can exhaust defenses early in games. Additionally, the big men will never be near the size of their opponents because of the weight and fitness requirements in the off season.

[ballcoach15]

In a women's sport at Elon, they have a lesbian head coach. Elon is not a Christian school.

As for Triple Option,............................................................ No

[Ewglenn]

I personally like the Elon coach. A Christian school close by that is winning. Elon has never won much of anything. So it's pretty impressive.

I agree the new Elon coach is starting to bring the program around for the first time in a long time. I think some more time will truly dictate how effective he is...but this year they have really done well. As for it being a Christian school. That is no longer how they affiliate themselves. Elon removed the "Fighting Christians" mascot years ago....one reason was to become more secular. I think they have over achieved in that area. Elon is more liberal than Chapel Hill now. Some alumni have revealed sadness at the direction the University has gone idealogically and philosophically.

Valid points. I can honestly say I know very little about Elon except they are always pretty bad at football.

[flameshaw]

If I b the AD, I assemble a small group of former players and a couple of other administration people to help come up with a group of candidates. People would be shocked at some of the people who have contacts with good coaches who would welcome the chance to come to LU. (I saw a list sent to JB to fill the baseball coaches job and he was not aware of many of them) Several were much bigger names than our current coach, with MLB playing and coaching experience. Nothing against our current coach. I also aware of a former football coach at UGA that applied for a job at LU and didn't get it. He told me that JB seemed to be intimidated by him, when he interviewed.
I see IM as a much more learned individual and able to make a good decision . But I also believe that using others for input can be very valuable, especially since he is fairly new to LU. An outside consulting firm obviously didn't do a very good job last time they recommended a candidate for football. Especially since he was pretty much the only candidate.

[JK37]

I've seen search committees - the likes of which you are proposing, Flameshaw - do very well. I have also seen them perform very poorly. It's not just about the success of the person who gets the job. Hopefully they do more background BEFORE trying to put together a list.

1. Why did this HC fail?
2. What do we know now about what it takes that we didn't know last time?
3. Describe the next head coach we need.
4. List candidates who meet this criteria.
5. Present list to AD.

Just because a firm may have gotten it wrong with TG, doesn't mean LU shouldn't or wouldn't use one again.

[Purple Haize]

I've seen search committees - the likes of which you are proposing, Flameshaw - do very well. I have also seen them perform very poorly. It's not just about the success of the person who gets the job. Hopefully they do more background BEFORE trying to put together a list.

1. Why did this HC fail?
2. What do we know now about what it takes that we didn't know last time?
3. Describe the next head coach we need.
4. List candidates who meet this criteria.
5. Present list to AD.

Just because a firm may have gotten it wrong with TG, doesn't mean LU shouldn't or wouldn't use one again.

The questions you asked are the ones search firms pay to ask. Plus, you don't have the Politics, Prejudices and Hidden Agendas that 'In House' committees do

[JK37]

Search firms are paid to ask, I think you mean.

I agree.

[Purple Haize]

Search firms are paid to ask, I think you mean.

I agree.

Grammar. Spelling. Whatevs.

[FLAMEfromBAMA]

Current FBS Coach (Gof5)

Who: Bill Clark

Why: Resume, Faith, My Coach In HS, Recruiting Ties
106-11 as High School Coach
4 Years as DCO at South Alabama as they transitioned to FBS.
1 Season as JSU Head Coach. During his only season as head coach at Jacksonville State, Clark led the Gamecocks to their first playoff victories, 49 school records, 13 OVC records and three NCAA records.
Currently in 2nd Season at UAB. Led them to first bowl game in years in ‘15, led them through a bunch of crap to reestablish program in ‘16, and currently sits second in the the C-USA at 4-2.
Only 49 Years Old, has been successful at every stop. Has transition to FBS experience. Recruiting ties to much of southeast. Has FCS & FBS HC experience. Is a Christian. Clean record, Family Man, Defensive Minded yet none of his programs have been offensively inept.
May not be a huge name to average cfb fans, but his name is a lot more well known that you’d think. Unless Ian really thinks he has a shot at a coach that is a top
candidate for P5 schools, which maybe we do, this would be a really solid move IMO.

Why Come: Money & Higher Ceiling than UAB

Rumored candidate for current P5 schools so LU would need to move now with a lot of money!

[ballah09]

I'm on the record for being on the Streeter bandwagon. Streeter is an up and coming coach. Loves the school and is a Liberty guy. I believe if he has success it would take the right school for him to jump unlike someone who would take the first p5 offer that would come his way.

[flameshaw]

I've seen search committees - the likes of which you are proposing, Flameshaw - do very well. I have also seen them perform very poorly. It's not just about the success of the person who gets the job. Hopefully they do more background BEFORE trying to put together a list.

1. Why did this HC fail?
2. What do we know now about what it takes that we didn't know last time?
3. Describe the next head coach we need.
4. List candidates who meet this criteria.
5. Present list to AD.

Just because a firm may have gotten it wrong with TG, doesn't mean LU shouldn't or wouldn't use one again.

Understand what you are saying. However, there have been very, very few times when an alumni-type committee has been used, if ever at LU. Maybe giving it a shot, is not a bad idea. Like I said, hard to do any worse than an outside committee. Besides, when a candidate is chosen, we do use an internal committee of sports admin-types to interview them. Can you imagine an employee being fully transparent with his/her boss? Not real likely. I am just suggesting that we put some knowledgeable alumni on the search committee to begin with, to help pick the candidates. With IM so new to the university, it might be helpful for his first major hire. Not suggesting that he is not capable, it just might present some people/ideas that he doesn't know about. We have a lot of good resources that we don't take advantage of. I suspect that JB was too insecure in himself to listen to others. I doubt that would happen with IM.

Gill 4 life.

[rogers3]

In a women's sport at Elon, they have a lesbian head coach. Elon is not a Christian school.

As for Triple Option,............................................................ No

Thank you for clarifying that. I forgot that God had certain people chosen to determine where someone's heart is based on their lifestyle. Elon is Christian in the same vein as LC. If I were thinking about making a replacement from that school, I'd go back in the years and look at Pete Lembo, now the Asst. Head Coach at Maryland. He gave us a couple of beatdowns back in the day.

[ballcoach15]

Clark would be a good candidate. His name has been mentioned to replace a current SEc coach who is on hot seat.

If and when we are in market for a new coach, I believe there will be one person on search committee. IM

Now granted he may use a Company to do dirty work behind the scenes and background checks, etc.

[Purple Haize]

In a women's sport at Elon, they have a lesbian head coach. Elon is not a Christian school.

As for Triple Option,............................................................ No

Thank you for clarifying that. I forgot that God had certain people chosen to determine where someone's heart is based on their lifestyle. Elon is Christian in the same vein as LC. If I were thinking about making a replacement from that school, I'd go back in the years and look at Pete Lembo, now the Asst. Head Coach at Maryland. He gave us a couple of beatdowns back in the day.

I wonder if AST Coaches count. Cause LU has had a couple of those. Or maybe that’s ok so long as they are not head Coaches
(BTW you guys do awesome work)

[Purple Haize]

Clark would be a good candidate. His name has been mentioned to replace a current SEc coach who is on hot seat.

If and when we are in market for a new coach, I believe there will be one person on search committee. IM

Now granted he may use a Company to do dirty work behind the scenes and background checks, etc.

There will be at least 2 You forgot whose school this is

[ATrain]

In a women's sport at Elon, they have a lesbian head coach. Elon is not a Christian school.

As for Triple Option,............................................................ No

Thank you for clarifying that. I forgot that God had certain people chosen to determine where someone's heart is based on their lifestyle. Elon is Christian in the same vein as LC. If I were thinking about making a replacement from that school, I'd go back in the years and look at Pete Lembo, now the Asst. Head Coach at Maryland. He gave us a couple of beatdowns back in the day.

I wonder if AST Coaches count. Cause LU has had a couple of those. Or maybe that’s ok so long as they are not head Coaches
(BTW you guys do awesome work)

Yep, I know for a fact that there have been assistants on coaching staffs who are gay/lesibian/bi. As well as prayer leaders, SLDs, RAs, athletes, etc...

[Purple Haize]

Well LU isn’t a Christian School than according to ballcoach

[Class of 20Something]

Well LU isn’t a Christian School than according to ballcoach

Ball coach is a sith. Only a sith deals in absolutes.

[jimflamesfan]

I put FCS head coach. I think LU would be better off looking for a successful FCS coach and enticing them with their first head FBS coaching job than trying to hire a fired or retired "name". I really like the guy from Elon. And used to coach at d2 IUP before that. My sister went there. He won games in two tough places. I think his record is something like 52-17. And he went to the post season 6 of the last 7 years. He's my favorite choice.

If we did decide to go with a coordinator, then Streeter is the only one I'm really excited about. He knows the LU culture, and he would get someone that could run a productive offense with an identity.

[JK37]

Streeter might call his own plays for awhile.