[A Sea of Red]

Yea, another 2 I would like to see are Boise and TCU.

Boise just missed the cut!

[ballcoach15]

My top 5 are:

Alabama
Clemson
Baylor
Florida
Marshall

[LUGrad2000]

Boise St
Baylor 2/1
UCF
USF
East Carolina

[Purple Haize]

Top 5 teams you want Liberty to start a home-and-home football series with

https://www.aseaofred.com/top-5-teams-y ... ries-with/

I love lists cause they are great debate starters. Yours is awful but I guess that’s by design

Navy is a solid choice.
But Maryland? NC State? UCF? I mean are you guys drug tested?

BYU should be a no brainer. But you were obviously smoking that there whacky tobacky
The Junior College of West Virginia would be a nice game. As would the Varsity squad in Morgantown
Army. Cause ‘Merica
ODU.
Appy St

I really hope that you all get help with your drug habit. It starts with those gateway drugs and eventually leads to things like dancing and premarital kissing

[tyndal23]

Cal
Kansas
Vanderbilt
Boston College
Illinois
Northwestern
Indiana
Rutgers
Missouri
TCU
Oregon State
Washington State
Arizona
Anyone in P5 and no one in G5 ( we have weak enough games from Independent we have to play every year ).

[Jonathan Carone]

Top 5 teams you want Liberty to start a home-and-home football series with

https://www.aseaofred.com/top-5-teams-y ... ries-with/

I love lists cause they are great debate starters. Yours is awful but I guess that’s by design

Navy is a solid choice.
But Maryland? NC State? UCF? I mean are you guys drug tested?

BYU should be a no brainer. But you were obviously smoking that there whacky tobacky
The Junior College of West Virginia would be a nice game. As would the Varsity squad in Morgantown
Army. Cause ‘Merica
ODU.
Appy St

I really hope that you all get help with your drug habit. It starts with those gateway drugs and eventually leads to things like dancing and premarital kissing

They stated they weren't including teams already on the schedule. Every team you listed already has a home and home in the future.

Maybe you're taking your own drugs?

[Jonathan Carone]

I'd rate the future schedules:

2020: B-
2021: B-
2022: A
2023: C-
2024: B-
2025: B
2026: B+

This is another hard part about being independent. It's feast or famine a lot of years with our schedule.

The pre-Thanksgiving week home schedule for 2021 is bleh at best. You get ODU in there and hopefully they're good by then. Army is incredible and Louisiana is really solid, but they're both without students so it takes away from the atmosphere.

2022 is great with BYU and VT. Hopefully students stay for that VT game. UAB is a really solid home opener.

2023 doesn't have a single attractive home game at this point.

2024 has Coastal and Marshall. Hopefully we can fill at least one other good game in October/early November.

Scheduling six solid to good home games each years is really tough, and without the benefit of a conference championship to make okay games feel more important, it's hard to get excited about some of those games.

[Class of 20Something]

I think we need to recognize the reality that without a P5 brand supporting us, scheduling could get really hard. Let's say HCHF is a lifer. By 2024 the last year of us not hosting a P5 school, we are winning 10 games a year regularly. What is our 7 year scheduling strategy going to look like then? We can want to play anybody, but they have to sign the contract too.

Why does App St have trouble scheduling?

Anyone else notice it?

No FBS history or future with Duke(none), NCSU(2006), Virginia(none), Virginia Tech(2011), West Virginia(none), or Kentucky(none). Parentheses was date of most recent matchup.

Maybe being good prevents teams from scheduling you.

[tyndal23]

I think we need to recognize the reality that without a P5 brand supporting us, scheduling could get really hard. Let's say HCHF is a lifer. By 2024 the last year of us not hosting a P5 school, we are winning 10 games a year regularly. What is our 7 year scheduling strategy going to look like then? We can want to play anybody, but they have to sign the contract too.

Why does App St have trouble scheduling?

Anyone else notice it?

No FBS history or future with Duke(none), NCSU(2006), Virginia(none), Virginia Tech(2011), West Virginia(none), or Kentucky(none). Parentheses was date of most recent matchup.

Maybe being good prevents teams from scheduling you.

This is another big reason the “ Just win “ crowd on here balking at pushing for P5 schedule - once u are a good G5 too much risk to lose and no upside for them to schedule us. Not too big a deal for a team that has a conference - much bigger issue for an Independent.

[Ill flame]

This is why the aac would be the perfect fit for us moving forward. Alot of attractive games to be had in that conference. Even if we don't have a p5 team visit us every year fans would have a good reason to show up.

[Class of 20Something]

I think we need to recognize the reality that without a P5 brand supporting us, scheduling could get really hard. Let's say HCHF is a lifer. By 2024 the last year of us not hosting a P5 school, we are winning 10 games a year regularly. What is our 7 year scheduling strategy going to look like then? We can want to play anybody, but they have to sign the contract too.

Why does App St have trouble scheduling?

Anyone else notice it?

No FBS history or future with Duke(none), NCSU(2006), Virginia(none), Virginia Tech(2011), West Virginia(none), or Kentucky(none). Parentheses was date of most recent matchup.

Maybe being good prevents teams from scheduling you.

This is another big reason the “ Just win “ crowd on here balking at pushing for P5 schedule - once u are a good G5 too much risk to lose and no upside for them to schedule us. Not too big a deal for a team that has a conference - much bigger issue for an Independent.

I think you lost your sentence somewhere in there. But if that post was directed at anyone, it was actually you. You notice that I only includes P5 schools there. App St can schedule ECU, Marshall, ODU, and Charlotte. But we have been able to schedule four regional P5 that they haven't because of their success.

Without the conference backing of being a bona fide P5 the chances of ever getting past four scheduled in a season are slim to none, especially if we start beating them.

[Purple Haize]

Top 5 teams you want Liberty to start a home-and-home football series with

https://www.aseaofred.com/top-5-teams-y ... ries-with/

I love lists cause they are great debate starters. Yours is awful but I guess that’s by design

Navy is a solid choice.
But Maryland? NC State? UCF? I mean are you guys drug tested?

BYU should be a no brainer. But you were obviously smoking that there whacky tobacky
The Junior College of West Virginia would be a nice game. As would the Varsity squad in Morgantown
Army. Cause ‘Merica
ODU.
Appy St

I really hope that you all get help with your drug habit. It starts with those gateway drugs and eventually leads to things like dancing and premarital kissing

They stated they weren't including teams already on the schedule. Every team you listed already has a home and home in the future.

Maybe you're taking your own drugs?

Did you expect me to actually READ the article? Pfft. Maybe you have too high of an opinion of the drugs YOU are on
Plus, that type of criteria just screams “I need help!” If you have something good, why throw it away? Drugs, that’s why! They take what is good in your life and substitute something fake in its stead. At least that’s what @Class of 20Something told me when he was getting clean

I like my list. I stand by it. All other lists are inferior

[Purple Haize]

I think we need to recognize the reality that without a P5 brand supporting us, scheduling could get really hard. Let's say HCHF is a lifer. By 2024 the last year of us not hosting a P5 school, we are winning 10 games a year regularly. What is our 7 year scheduling strategy going to look like then? We can want to play anybody, but they have to sign the contract too.

Why does App St have trouble scheduling?

Anyone else notice it?

No FBS history or future with Duke(none), NCSU(2006), Virginia(none), Virginia Tech(2011), West Virginia(none), or Kentucky(none). Parentheses was date of most recent matchup.

Maybe being good prevents teams from scheduling you.

This is another big reason the “ Just win “ crowd on here balking at pushing for P5 schedule - once u are a good G5 too much risk to lose and no upside for them to schedule us. Not too big a deal for a team that has a conference - much bigger issue for an Independent.

I think you lost your sentence somewhere in there. But if that post was directed at anyone, it was actually you. You notice that I only includes P5 schools there. App St can schedule ECU, Marshall, ODU, and Charlotte. But we have been able to schedule four regional P5 that they haven't because of their success.

Without the conference backing of being a bona fide P5 the chances of ever getting past four scheduled in a season are slim to none, especially if we start beating them.

Yeah, he just kind of made an argument against his own position

[Class of 20Something]

Did you expect me to actually READ the article? Pfft. Maybe you have too high of an opinion of the drugs YOU are on
Plus, that type of criteria just screams “I need help!” If you have something good, why throw it away? Drugs, that’s why! They take what is good in your life and substitute something fake in its stead. At least that’s what @Class of 20Something told me when he was getting clean

I like my list. I stand by it. All other lists are inferior

That was discussed in confidence. Sometimes getting clean just means changing suppliers to someone that makes their product in a controlled facility.

Meth is legal if it's made by the right people.

[Cider Jim]

Did you expect me to actually READ the article?

Remember that Purple is a WVU alum. They prefer YouTube videos instead of reading.

[Purple Haize]

Did you expect me to actually READ the article?

Remember that Purple is a WVU alum. They prefer YouTube videos instead of reading.

Pictures are also helpful

[tyndal23]

I think we need to recognize the reality that without a P5 brand supporting us, scheduling could get really hard. Let's say HCHF is a lifer. By 2024 the last year of us not hosting a P5 school, we are winning 10 games a year regularly. What is our 7 year scheduling strategy going to look like then? We can want to play anybody, but they have to sign the contract too.

Why does App St have trouble scheduling?

Anyone else notice it?

No FBS history or future with Duke(none), NCSU(2006), Virginia(none), Virginia Tech(2011), West Virginia(none), or Kentucky(none). Parentheses was date of most recent matchup.

Maybe being good prevents teams from scheduling you.

This is another big reason the “ Just win “ crowd on here balking at pushing for P5 schedule - once u are a good G5 too much risk to lose and no upside for them to schedule us. Not too big a deal for a team that has a conference - much bigger issue for an Independent.

I think you lost your sentence somewhere in there. But if that post was directed at anyone, it was actually you. You notice that I only includes P5 schools there. App St can schedule ECU, Marshall, ODU, and Charlotte. But we have been able to schedule four regional P5 that they haven't because of their success.

Without the conference backing of being a bona fide P5 the chances of ever getting past four scheduled in a season are slim to none, especially if we start beating them.

Yep - all the reason to announce and schedule it as soon as possible before we get stuck in that position.

[tyndal23]

This is another big reason the “ Just win “ crowd on here balking at pushing for P5 schedule - once u are a good G5 too much risk to lose and no upside for them to schedule us. Not too big a deal for a team that has a conference - much bigger issue for an Independent.

I think you lost your sentence somewhere in there. But if that post was directed at anyone, it was actually you. You notice that I only includes P5 schools there. App St can schedule ECU, Marshall, ODU, and Charlotte. But we have been able to schedule four regional P5 that they haven't because of their success.

Without the conference backing of being a bona fide P5 the chances of ever getting past four scheduled in a season are slim to none, especially if we start beating them.

Yeah, he just kind of made an argument against his own position

Seriously? How so. U guys want to be a top G5 team first - I am stating no need to be and actually will make it harder and take longer to be P5 equivalent going that route. Again - VA and Carolina schools have no built in out of conference annual P5 foes like Fl (FSU), GA ( G tech),Clemson(USC) FSU( Florida ). They have a ton of G5 to pull from - LU bring P5 equivalent is a major benefit for them - look at a map.

[Ill flame]

I'm not sure how we are supposed to schedule 8+ p5 games a year now or in the future to become p5 equivalent. we would have to start scheduling home and homes with more p5 teams and that's just not happening anytime soon. I still like how our future schedules look though.

[bluedevilflame]

I'd love to see BYU on the schedule as often as possible. After looking at both of our future schedules, there are a lot of empty spots for both schools after 2024.

[chris leedlelee]

I'm not sure how we are supposed to schedule 8+ p5 games a year now or in the future to become p5 equivalent. we would have to start scheduling home and homes with more p5 teams and that's just not happening anytime soon. I still like how our future schedules look though.

Nothing wrong with getting 2 for 1's with Power5 teams. We've already been lucky to get a good amount with local ACC schools. Although I know that it is limited to how many can be scheduled, location matters a lot less than giving us a better Strength of Schedule for each season. Having a better SoS than most Go5 teams will help establish us as one of the best teams in the Go5. If that is the only way to put P5's on our schedule for the time being, then so be it.

[tyndal23]

I'm not sure how we are supposed to schedule 8+ p5 games a year now or in the future to become p5 equivalent. we would have to start scheduling home and homes with more p5 teams and that's just not happening anytime soon. I still like how our future schedules look though.

Nothing wrong with getting 2 for 1's with Power5 teams. We've already been lucky to get a good amount with local ACC schools. Although I know that it is limited to how many can be scheduled, location matters a lot less than giving us a better Strength of Schedule for each season. Having a better SoS than most Go5 teams will help establish us as one of the best teams in the Go5. If that is the only way to put P5's on our schedule for the time being, then so be it.

I have old posts on how and who - 5 home games and 7 away and $ against bottom 1/3 of every P5 team. Anyone arguing the need for 6 home games - remember, we can’t put 4K in the stands either side of thanksgiving week

[Purple Haize]

I'm not sure how we are supposed to schedule 8+ p5 games a year now or in the future to become p5 equivalent. we would have to start scheduling home and homes with more p5 teams and that's just not happening anytime soon. I still like how our future schedules look though.

Nothing wrong with getting 2 for 1's with Power5 teams. We've already been lucky to get a good amount with local ACC schools. Although I know that it is limited to how many can be scheduled, location matters a lot less than giving us a better Strength of Schedule for each season. Having a better SoS than most Go5 teams will help establish us as one of the best teams in the Go5. If that is the only way to put P5's on our schedule for the time being, then so be it.

You can only have so many 2-1’s though. Eventually the math works against you. And you can get bought out
At some point you need home games. People buy season tickets for home games

[Ill flame]

I'm not sure how we are supposed to schedule 8+ p5 games a year now or in the future to become p5 equivalent. we would have to start scheduling home and homes with more p5 teams and that's just not happening anytime soon. I still like how our future schedules look though.

Nothing wrong with getting 2 for 1's with Power5 teams. We've already been lucky to get a good amount with local ACC schools. Although I know that it is limited to how many can be scheduled, location matters a lot less than giving us a better Strength of Schedule for each season. Having a better SoS than most Go5 teams will help establish us as one of the best teams in the Go5. If that is the only way to put P5's on our schedule for the time being, then so be it.

You can only have so many 2-1’s though. Eventually the math works against you. And you can get bought out
At some point you need home games. People buy season tickets for home games

This is the point I was trying to get at. I think 2-1's are great for where we are as a program but to be truly "p5 equivalent" you need 1-1's.

[Purple Haize]

Nothing wrong with getting 2 for 1's with Power5 teams. We've already been lucky to get a good amount with local ACC schools. Although I know that it is limited to how many can be scheduled, location matters a lot less than giving us a better Strength of Schedule for each season. Having a better SoS than most Go5 teams will help establish us as one of the best teams in the Go5. If that is the only way to put P5's on our schedule for the time being, then so be it.

You can only have so many 2-1’s though. Eventually the math works against you. And you can get bought out
At some point you need home games. People buy season tickets for home games

This is the point I was trying to get at. I think 2-1's are great for where we are as a program but to be truly "p5 equivalent" you need 1-1's.

P5 or G5 doesn’t matter. The math won’t add up