[RedSpinPod]

Coach Gill has not announced which Game he will serve Suspension . Should he serve it against Presbyterian, a Game liberty will likely be a three touchdown favorite ? Should he serve it against non conference Coastal Carolina , a game that could secure an At-Large bid into the playoffs.

[olldflame]

I voted for Presby in spite of the fact it could send a message to the team that we can overlook them Hopefully our coaches can nip any thoughts of that in the bud In addition to the potential of an at-large being at stake in the Coastal game I do not think Gill will want to miss what could be our last game against the beach chickens in the forseeable future Obviously there would be a huge amount of second guessing if we were to lose to the Hose, but that could happen in either case unless we win both

I honestly don't think it makes a ton of difference The role of the HC in-game is overrated for the most part and things where it can make a difference like clock management are not TG strong points

[Purple Haize]

Coastal. It's a 'nothing' game. If you are worried about sending a message that a game doesn't matter, that would be the one. LU doesn't really care about them anymore and vice versa

[olldflame]

Coastal. It's a 'nothing' game. If you are worried about sending a message that a game doesn't matter, that would be the one. LU doesn't really care about them anymore and vice versa

The Purple Troll is on the case Let's see how much of a "nothing" game it is if we beat Presby and lose to CSU, both of which are looking like pretty likely outcomes right now A win over the beach chickens would put us in decent shape for an at large at 7-4, with all losses to either FBS or top 10 FCS teams and a win over a ranked FCS team Lose and we have no shot

[thepostman]

I'm not saying an at large is impossible but even with a win over Coastal I think it's unlikely

I just want to win our last 2 Big South games and win a conference championship out right. A coastal win would just be the cherry on top.

[Purple Haize]

Coastal. It's a 'nothing' game. If you are worried about sending a message that a game doesn't matter, that would be the one. LU doesn't really care about them anymore and vice versa

The Purple Troll is on the case Let's see how much of a "nothing" game it is if we beat Presby and lose to CSU, both of which are looking like pretty likely outcomes right now A win over the beach chickens would put us in decent shape for an at large at 7-4, with all losses to either FBS or top 10 FCS teams and a win over a ranked FCS team Lose and we have no shot

I'm not trolling anything. The key word in your apparently drug addled post is LOSSES. Not victories. And 1 victory over CCU won't make a difference

If LU loses to Presbyterian and CSU they aren't going to the playoffs regardless of what happens in the CCU game
If LU beats Presbyterian and loses to CSU they aren't going to the playoffs regardless of what happens in the CCU game.
If LU loses to Presby and beats CSU they go to the playoffs regardless of what happens in the CCU game

So take your Troll accusations and look in the mirror

[olldflame]

It is not 1 victory, it is 7 Right now there are projections that they will need to dip into the 6 win teams to fill out the field We would have a legit shot with 7

FYI, the committee does look at losses, and they look at WHO you lost to There are obviously no good losses, but there are BAD losses In the scenario I mentioned, we would not have a bad loss, and that is a GOOD thing The FCS powers that be have always acted like Moglia walks on water A win over Coastal would get their attention Not a sure thing by any means, but we would be very much in the mix

[Jonathan Carone]

The Coastal game is meaningless. He should sit that one.

[Purple Haize]

It is not 1 victory, it is 7 Right now there are projections that they will need to dip into the 6 win teams to fill out the field We would have a legit shot with 7

FYI, the committee does look at losses, and they look at WHO you lost to There are obviously no good losses, but there are BAD losses In the scenario I mentioned, we would not have a bad loss, and that is a GOOD thing The FCS powers that be have always acted like Moglia walks on water A win over Coastal would get their attention Not a sure thing by any means, but we would be very much in the mix

It is 1 victory. It would be the ONLY quality win, and then just barely. LU has no other significant victory to hang its hat on, and was embarrassed in a loss against a ranked opponent. Beating Presby GSU and KSU won't exactly push LU over the top in an LU at large bid

Your 2nd paragraph is everything that is wrong with LU athletics. 'Look at WHO they lost to." 'We would not have a bad loss" How about taking care of what you need to take care of to win Conference? Instead, you want to take a convoluted path to the playoffs, put it in the Committes hands then put on your Martyr Cloak when LU is left out.

[Purple Haize]

The Coastal game is meaningless. He should sit that one.

Heathen

[Jonathan Carone]

The heathen statement would've been that him sitting the Coastal game would allow us an extra week to look for a new head coach after we lose to CSU.

But I'm not a heathen.

[Purple Haize]

The heathen statement would've been that him sitting the Coastal game would allow us an extra week to look for a new head coach after we lose to CSU.

But I'm not a heathen.

Oh I fully expected you to say that! If I had put that in mine that would have been trolling.

[RedSpinPod]

Is it possible that Gill has already served the one game Suspension in one of the last 2 games, in some other capacity other than head coach?

[olldflame]

Is it possible that Gill has already served the one game Suspension in one of the last 2 games, in some other capacity other than head coach?

No A coach serving a suspension can't participate in any capacity I'm not positive, but he may not even be allowed at the facility

[ballcoach15]

That's a tough call. But we should beat Presbyterian even if I were coaching.

[BJWilliams]

Is it possible that Gill has already served the one game Suspension in one of the last 2 games, in some other capacity other than head coach?

No A coach serving a suspension can't participate in any capacity I'm not positive, but he may not even be allowed at the facility

Olldflame is right...he can attend the game and sit in the president's or athletic director's suite, or in the general admission, but he cannot be in the coach's box, on the field or be in the facility or act in any sort of coaching capacity. Essentially, for that day...he's a fan like the rest of us

[jack_sparrow81]

No other coaches on staff have the experience to step in this role? Obviously, more preparation is needed for the week leading up to game day, but I don't see what the big deal is. I remember seeing Bobby Bowden goofing off and facing the crowd (with no headset) when the Noles would fake a punt or a field goal on 4th down. The he would turn around and be suprised it happen- maybe that was part of the fake lol. It's all about delegating and trusting your coords. I say sit him out the Presby game. We are able to lose either game or both games and still make the playoffs beating CSU. Correct me if I'm wrong, wouldnt beating Coastal help us with seeding?

[Sly Fox]

Yes, we have coaches with head coaching experience on the staff. Considering the fact that it was our associate head coach's mistake that led to Coach Gill's suspension, I am wondering if that would factor into whether Coach Brown would fill-in or if it would be our much maligned offensive line coach.

I'm not sure I agree about the Coastal game being meaningless based on the mess that is emerging for at-larges. If we were to lose a close one to CSU, a victory over Coastal might be enough to score an at large. Hopefully we don't have to entertain such long shots but it is not as cut & dried as it was a couple of weeks ago.

[TH Spangler]

Coastal and Brown should fill in.

[olldflame]

I don't have a problem if TG decides to coach against Presby, but I personally think that is the game he should sit As to the Coastal game being "meaningless" I disagree If you look at last year, there were 1 or 2 6-5 teams who got at-large bids, and we were not seriously considered The reason was, while we had 3 quality wins against Montana, GA State and Coastal, we also had 2 bad losses against G-W and Monmouth You could possibly throw Southern IL in there as a 3rd That will not be the case this year If we beat Presby we will have no bad losses

I also have no problem if he chooses Brown to assume HC duties, whichever game he sits out, but the one member of our staff with HC experience is Dennis Wagner, and I believe it was Wagner who filled in when Gill missed a game after the death of his mother 2 or 3 years ago Of course Brown was not around then

[Purple Haize]

I don't have a problem if TG decides to coach against Presby, but I personally think that is the game he should sit As to the Coastal game being "meaningless" I disagree If you look at last year, there were 1 or 2 6-5 teams who got at-large bids, and we were not seriously considered The reason was, while we had 3 quality wins against Montana, GA State and Coastal, we also had 2 bad losses against G-W and Monmouth You could possibly throw Southern IL in there as a 3rd That will not be the case this year If we beat Presby we will have no bad losses

I also have no problem if he chooses Brown to assume HC duties, whichever game he sits out, but the one member of our staff with HC experience is Dennis Wagner, and I believe it was Wagner who filled in when Gill missed a game after the death of his mother 2 or 3 years ago Of course Brown was not around then

48-19 at Home against Jacksonville St is a bad loss. Especially when in your hypothetical you'd combine that with a loss to CSU. That's 2 losses and a questionable win.
The only game left in the regular season that matters in regards to the Playoffs is CSU. But losing to Presby the week before would decimate the team.
Of course this type of logical thinking is now considered being a Troll

[olldflame]

I don't have a problem if TG decides to coach against Presby, but I personally think that is the game he should sit As to the Coastal game being "meaningless" I disagree If you look at last year, there were 1 or 2 6-5 teams who got at-large bids, and we were not seriously considered The reason was, while we had 3 quality wins against Montana, GA State and Coastal, we also had 2 bad losses against G-W and Monmouth You could possibly throw Southern IL in there as a 3rd That will not be the case this year If we beat Presby we will have no bad losses

I also have no problem if he chooses Brown to assume HC duties, whichever game he sits out, but the one member of our staff with HC experience is Dennis Wagner, and I believe it was Wagner who filled in when Gill missed a game after the death of his mother 2 or 3 years ago Of course Brown was not around then

48-19 at Home against Jacksonville St is a bad loss. Especially when in your hypothetical you'd combine that with a loss to CSU. That's 2 losses and a questionable win.
The only game left in the regular season that matters in regards to the Playoffs is CSU. But losing to Presby the week before would decimate the team.
Of course this type of logical thinking is now considered being a Troll

We may not be happy with the way we played or the final score, but losses to top 10 ( or in the case of JSU top 2-3) teams are not considered bad losses, regardless of the score A bad loss is when you lose to a bad team

I agree that losing to Presby would be a tough blow That has nothing to do with whether Gill coaches or not In a very similar situation in 2014, our loss to CSU looked to be a death blow, but guess what, it wasn't!

[Purple Haize]

I don't have a problem if TG decides to coach against Presby, but I personally think that is the game he should sit As to the Coastal game being "meaningless" I disagree If you look at last year, there were 1 or 2 6-5 teams who got at-large bids, and we were not seriously considered The reason was, while we had 3 quality wins against Montana, GA State and Coastal, we also had 2 bad losses against G-W and Monmouth You could possibly throw Southern IL in there as a 3rd That will not be the case this year If we beat Presby we will have no bad losses

I also have no problem if he chooses Brown to assume HC duties, whichever game he sits out, but the one member of our staff with HC experience is Dennis Wagner, and I believe it was Wagner who filled in when Gill missed a game after the death of his mother 2 or 3 years ago Of course Brown was not around then

48-19 at Home against Jacksonville St is a bad loss. Especially when in your hypothetical you'd combine that with a loss to CSU. That's 2 losses and a questionable win.
The only game left in the regular season that matters in regards to the Playoffs is CSU. But losing to Presby the week before would decimate the team.
Of course this type of logical thinking is now considered being a Troll

We may not be happy with the way we played or the final score, but losses to top 10 ( or in the case of JSU top 2-3) teams are not considered bad losses, regardless of the score

I agree that losing to Presby would be a tough blow That has nothing to do with whether Gill coaches or not In a very similar situation in 2014, our loss to CSU looked to be a death blow, but guess what, it wasn't!

So in your scenario losing to 2 top teams out of 3 is a good thing?
Using your scenario
How did they did against the Conference champ? LOST
How did they do against their highest ranked opponent (JSU)? LOST
How did they do against their next highest ranked opponent (CCU)? WIN in your scenario
Added factors
JSU was a home game
LU had a chance to win the Championship and didn't
How motivated was CCU since they had nothing to play for?

If that's a resume that you are banking on to get you an At Large bid I recommend saving some of those ashes from leaf burning so you have something to go with your sack cloth as you lament LU being left out

[Jonathan Carone]

The committee will always take a team from a power conference with one less win than a team from the Big South. This league is a joke and our wins vs KSU, Monmouth, GW, and PC are worse wins than the middle of those top leagues.

The PC game is meaningless.
The Coastal game in meaningless.

Being meaningless is no excuse for losing. We should win both those games.

Our season banks on the CSU game in two weeks. It always has. The coaching staff prepared everything looking towards that game because as long as we had the results we were supposed to in other games, that game was all that mattered.

[olldflame]

The committee will always take a team from a power conference with one less win than a team from the Big South. This league is a joke and our wins vs KSU, Monmouth, GW, and PC are worse wins than the middle of those top leagues.

The PC game is meaningless.
The Coastal game in meaningless.

Being meaningless is no excuse for losing. We should win both those games.

Our season banks on the CSU game in two weeks. It always has. The coaching staff prepared everything looking towards that game because as long as we had the results we were supposed to in other games, that game was all that mattered.

I will agree that it is likely there could be MVFC and CAA teams with 6 wins picked ahead of us if we finish 7-4 with a loss to CSU the blanket statement that that would be true in all cases I do not buy at all After looking at the standings, I must admit I was surprised to see how many CAA teams will be in the running The divide between the haves and have nots in that conference is ridiculous this year (which leads one to question how strong it really is) G-W actually blew out Elon

http://www.caasports.com/standings.aspx?path=football

Beating Chuck South is obviously our best shot at a bid and always has been, but the implication that we had all our eggs in that basket from day one and basically mailed it in against VT, SMU and JSU sounds a lot like SuperJon