A Sea Of Red

Bring your thoughts on a miserable night here ...

Gill is going to win enough big games to make us not be able to question him but lose enough bad games to make us want to.

Absolutely manhandled.

I've decided I'm going to put this on the players Woodrum connects on one or two of those passes that would have gone for a TD we aren't saying a word. Lunsford hits those FG's we are in a different ball game. If the staff was asking them to do things they weren't capable of than sure. But that wasn't the case. The lack of execution was what killed us.
The only thing I might blame the staff for is the OL

Purple Haize wrote:

thepostman wrote:I'm surprised we didn't show up to play but knew we'd find a way to lose. The game planing is just as,much to blame and that's been solid all year.

Here's the thing. I sort of agree with you but.... What if Woodrum had actually connected on one or two of those passes. Then we wouldn't be saying a thing about the game planning

Isn't this the story of every loss?

We are still a work I'm progress. It is just taking longer than we want it to.

SuperJon wrote:

Purple Haize wrote:

thepostman wrote:I'm surprised we didn't show up to play but knew we'd find a way to lose. The game planing is just as,much to blame and that's been solid all year.

Here's the thing. I sort of agree with you but.... What if Woodrum had actually connected on one or two of those passes. Then we wouldn't be saying a thing about the game planning

Isn't this the story of every loss?

No. We had some loses over the years that just made you

Woodrum should be good enough by now to at least not lose games. Tonight he flat out missed 4-5 open TD passes and was the primary reason for the loss.

-Playcalling was confusing
-execution was lacking
-OL gets no push right now.
Overall a discouraging loss but maybe a good humbling game for the overall season. I am still convinced that SIU is really really good.

Rice named LU player of the game on 23 yards rushing...

Josh is a senior. He should not be making the same mistakes now he did as a freshmen. Simple as that.

The Woodrum apologists will be here soon enough but he is the senior leader on this team. He can't make the mistakes he makes. Simple as that.

thepostman wrote:Josh is a senior. He should not be making the same mistakes now he did as a freshmen. Simple as that.

The Woodrum apologists will be here soon enough but he is the senior leader on this team. He can't make the mistakes he makes. Simple as that.

I agree. It's why I say it's an execution issue

thepostman wrote:Josh is a senior. He should not be making the same mistakes now he did as a freshmen. Simple as that.

The Woodrum apologists will be here soon enough but he is the senior leader on this team. He can't make the mistakes he makes. Simple as that.

He's the textbook definition of above average.

Any decent team would love to have him because he'd elevate their team.

Great teams would be frustrated with him because he would play games like tonight.

No one did anything right tonight. We are slow. They were twice as fast as us. What's up with all the padding Woodrums wearing, is he hurt, it looks like he can barely move in it.

My predicted score was a 35-17 loss.

I wasn't that far off. This is what I thought would happen. We're not quite there yet...but we're moving very slowly in the right direction.

I don't think you can put this on Woodrum. He didn't have a great game...but we couldn't get 1 yard multiple times...the O-line just didn't have the push.

Also, they killed our defense with short passes.

Call me crazy, I think we rebound and beat Georgia State.

Purple Haize wrote:I've decided I'm going to put this on the players Woodrum connects on one or two of those passes that would have gone for a TD we aren't saying a word. Lunsford hits those FG's we are in a different ball game. If the staff was asking them to do things they weren't capable of than sure. But that wasn't the case. The lack of execution was what killed us.
The only thing I might blame the staff for is the OL

Agree 100% We were taken out of our game plan early. Josh probably had his worst day as a Flame. Poor effort by the whole team.

Gotta have more from woodrum and lunsford. Thats the bottom line. Are there other issues, sure. A 5th year qb and lunsford with his talent just have to be better. Woodrum doesnt look any more consistent than his sophomore year to me. Its dissappointing because i thought he would be much further along by now and i pumped him up big time. Its also been dissappointing to see and hear him yapping at our young receivers the last couple weeks when they had a drop. Keys said it live tonight when he chewed out canon smith. I saw it atleast once last week. Gotta be a better leader than that. He doesnt want the receivers coming back barking at him on all those poor throws the last couple weeks. Were gonna live and die with these 2 this year and we need better than 50 percent kicking and 50 percent completions and missed td throws.

Purple Haize wrote:

thepostman wrote:Josh is a senior. He should not be making the same mistakes now he did as a freshmen. Simple as that.

The Woodrum apologists will be here soon enough but he is the senior leader on this team. He can't make the mistakes he makes. Simple as that.

I agree. It's why I say it's an execution issue

Yeah. I agree it was more execution but the repeated run plays up the middle was not wise.

But he set the all time all purpose yards record!

jinxy wrote:He doesnt want the receivers coming back barking at him on all those poor throws the last couple weeks.

Are you sure about that?

I don't know Josh from the man in the moon. But if the guy is a competitor like we want to believe, he is just as hard on himself for mistakes as he is on others. Hopefully, he recognizes when and how he is making mistakes on some of his throws. And someone like that WANTS people to be hard on him, too.

If all of his throws were on the mark, we would applaud the accountability he is placing on receivers. If the only reason we decry his holding the receivers accountable is that not every throw of his is on the mark, I think we should consider that he knows that, too.

jimflamesfan wrote:My predicted score was a 35-17 loss.

I wasn't that far off. This is what I thought would happen. We're not quite there yet...but we're moving very slowly in the right direction.

I don't think you can put this on Woodrum. He didn't have a great game...but we couldn't get 1 yard multiple times...the O-line just didn't have the push.

Also, they killed our defense with short passes.

Call me crazy, I think we rebound and beat Georgia State.

Okay, you're crazy

Sometimes a good old fashioned butt whoopin is good for a team, or it destroys it. I think Gill will use it to make us better.

don't know if its relovant but DJ should be the starting TB and not Rice, he is put there after the year DJ had and it hasn't worked. They talk about rotation but Rice has a lot more carries and is not as productive. Like the announcer said DJ gives you just a little more umph. Macon should see another carry or too. Not having a running game is making it a lot harder on the WR's who are all young for the most part

Purple Haize wrote:No. We had some loses over the years that just made you

Liberty has it's own version of "punt, BAMA, punt" in a game against VMI. They kept doing onside kicks and wouldn't let us play offense.