A Sea Of Red

What's the story... or is there a story? Any word on replacements?

Don't know the story .. glad he could be part of the program. He will certainly be missed.

announces his retirement:

http://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm ... 30&TeamID=

also, audio interview w/ Nick Pierce

Torbush Announces Retirement from Coaching
February 12, 2013
Lynchburg, Va.

Carl Torbush, Liberty's assistant head football coach and linebackers coach, announced his retirement from coaching earlier today.

"On behalf of our staff and players, we thank Carl for his godly experience and the knowledge he possessed to develop young men to glorify Christ here at Liberty University," said Liberty head football coach Turner Gill. "We want nothing but the best for he and his family in all their future endeavors."

*"Knew a month ago" but didnt wanna screw up HCTG's recruiting. pretty cool of him to hang in there.
says he doesnt forsee coaching again. best of luck to him.

Based purely on my uninformed speculation, I suppose this could have something to do with his health. Of course, after leading a coach's life for nearly 40 years he is certainly due for some down time in retirement.

Congrats to Coach Torbush on his retirement and thanks for your contributions to our program!

Best of luck to Coach Torbush on his retirement. He was one of the really class acts in the coaching profession. I enjoyed speaking with him at each home game this past season.

Probably due for some relaxation at this point...he was battling cancer and all not too far back. Was glad to have him as part of the program this past season

I wonder if Wimberly will go back to doing LB's and Roberts get whole secondary. Minter is no longer here to jump in and do safeties now, so might as well look at that scenario. But alas im not the head man in charge, so im just guessing.

forbidden wrote:I wonder if Wimberly will go back to doing LB's and Roberts get whole secondary. Minter is no longer here to jump in and do safeties now, so might as well look at that scenario. But thank goodness I´m not the head man in charge, so im just guessing.

FIFY

Anybody looking for a job?

https://jobs.liberty.edu/applicants/jsp ... gId=162851

is that the way these searches are normally done?

PAmedic wrote:is that the way these searches are normally done?

Might be HR policy to have it posted publicly for a set period of time (7-14 days?). Doesn't mean any of the applications through official channels will be seriously considered.

Could also need to be posted so tat anyone who TG seeks out can easily submit things through proper chanels as well.

Yes, as always, its all about who you know. In this case, who does TG know?

I tried to hook on and work with special teams, but didn't even get a sniff

that kinda blows. sorry to hear that

now you can officially be an "old hag" tho so welcome to the club!

Yeah, kinda disappointed though because I thought I would at the very least get a phone call or a personal email saying thanks, but no thanks. But I received a form-email like nobody in the football office even knew who I was...kinda ticked me off a little too. It wasn't the saying no, but how informal they were to a former football alumni that got me.

I would give the sports program a C overall when it comes to dealing with/reaching out former players. I know they could do a lot better and tap into a huge resource for future donations, etc. IMVVVVHO.

flameshaw wrote:I would give the sports program a C overall when it comes to dealing with/reaching out former players. I know they could do a lot better and tap into a huge resource for future donations, etc. IMVVVVHO.

By and large (and there is strong data to back this up), student-athlete alumni who received a partial or full scholarship for the athletic exploits are one of the hardest markets to tap for giving. The research doesn't indicate a definitive reason, but my conjecture is that it has to do with the entitlement complex that takes root in many such individuals.

Not to mention, in the context of Liberty specifically, the highest levels of administration expressly dislike private development. So, not sure the acquisition of monetary donations in the future is of any consequence or motivation.

Yeah, they are not and never have been very good at reaching out to former athletes. I have always wondered why a Football alumni group has never been created in order to get those guys back to campus for games, functions, etc., but I guess I am seeing why now.

JK37 wrote:Not to mention, in the context of Liberty specifically, the highest levels of administration expressly dislike private development. So, not sure the acquisition of monetary donations in the future is of any consequence or motivation.

Is this something that's common knowledge? Do you have a source? I'm curious because I've never read/heard this before.

adam42381 wrote:

JK37 wrote:Not to mention, in the context of Liberty specifically, the highest levels of administration expressly dislike private development. So, not sure the acquisition of monetary donations in the future is of any consequence or motivation.

Is this something that's common knowledge? Do you have a source? I'm curious because I've never read/heard this before.

It is common knowledge and he is spot on.

Purple Haize wrote:

adam42381 wrote:

JK37 wrote:Not to mention, in the context of Liberty specifically, the highest levels of administration expressly dislike private development. So, not sure the acquisition of monetary donations in the future is of any consequence or motivation.

Is this something that's common knowledge? Do you have a source? I'm curious because I've never read/heard this before.

It is common knowledge and he is spot on.

Interesting. Has Jr. ever given an explanation behind this line of thinking? BJ, maybe it's time for another PM...

adam42381 wrote:

JK37 wrote:Not to mention, in the context of Liberty specifically, the highest levels of administration expressly dislike private development. So, not sure the acquisition of monetary donations in the future is of any consequence or motivation.

Is this something that's common knowledge? Do you have a source? I'm curious because I've never read/heard this before.

Completely true. Jr doesn't like big monetary donations because he feels like it gives the donor a seat at the table. He doesn't like anyone having control other than himself (see: new logo). He believes that the Harvards and Yales and Baylors lost their way religiously because they allowed donors a seat at the table to influence how they did things.

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Edit: not directed at SJ

Purple Haize wrote:.

Edit: not directed at SJ

What did I miss? That was a quick edit.

SJ what about the Oral Roberts, Bob Jonses' and Hyles-Anderson's?

So, what happens if/when the money dries up from LU Online?