[aredd33]

I just wanna see where everybody is on this (coming from we need a new head coach).
How do YOU in YOUR opinion feel?

1. Give Rocco and his staff one more year to get something done. If its the same as this year make changes after next season.

2. Give Rocco and his staff all the time they want/need to get to the playoffs and win there.

3. Rocco needs to make changes with the assistants as soon as this season is over.

4. Clean everything out, Rocco and all assistents should be let go immediately following Stony Brook.

Only responses should be a number..hence making it simple.

Me...I'm 1.

[LUconn]

I think something needs to be done with the defense. But that's up to Rocco. Who deserves to have more than 1 year to get the playoffs but less than all the time he wants.

[jcmanson]

1 and 3

[Stevev]

1 and 3.

If we clean house now it would screw up next year and I think that there are some pro prospects in the senior class so lets see what they can do. If we get the same or worse then it is time for a change and that starts at the top.

[Del Flame]

2 = no, because no one deserves a lifetime guarantee.

4 = no, because Coach Rocco has done an outstanding job in his time at LU. We stunk before he arrived. I am not satisfied AT ALL with yesterday, but, big picture, I firmly believe that the program is on the road (albeit much rockier than I was hoping for) to larger success.

3 = maybe. I HATE what I saw yesterday (and in a couple of other games) on defense, but I'm not sure that it is a coaching problem. Some of the same defenders have gotten beaten for a couple of years. To my untrained eye, it didn't look like we made many adjustments, or, if we did, we didn't have the players that could execute them. Having said that, I don't have enough football knowledge to know if a defensive coaching change at some level would or wouldn't help. I do believe that Coach Rocco has the expertise to make the proper decisions in this area.

1 = sure. Because everyone's performance should be evaluated on a year-to-year basis.

Sorry, I know you were just looking for numbers. Mark me down for a 1 and a possible 3.

[Liberty4Life]

3.

[rueful]

3. If Rocco doesnt make any changes to the coaching staff this offseason, however, then it would be 4.

[jack_sparrow81]

Guys comeone, Urban coached one bad game yesterday, but he has two championships in the case. Give him a break. woops wrong message board.

I got kind of confused yesteday after the game on here thinking this was an SEC messageboard. In all honestly in Rocco's defense we've been in a bad predicament the last few years. We would have 3 playoff appearances by now if it wasn't for the conference not getting an autobid until this year, which is ludicrous if you ask me if were paying the NCAA dues. Also, we should of been selected the year Maine got in (couple of years ago). There are people out there that do not like our school or what we represent. You have your head in the sand if you think otherwise and I know for a fact it was like that a few years back from other sources. Look at Coastal that one year they made it. They were horrible that year and they still got picked. Save the silly "firing talk" till after the Stony Brook game. Some of yall the biggest fairweather fans. One minute yall are meeting the team at the airport at 3AM and the next minute your jumping ship before the season or the playoff chances is finished. If you break it down, we lost to 3 good teams this year---one that won their conference, one that beat Virginia Tech, and Coastal, who in my opinion was a good team and their record didn't show for it due to losses to some good teams--GA Southern and WVU. I truly hope Rocco advises the players not to come on this message board during this season, cause I would be discouraged as a player after one conference loss and seeing the armchair QB's comeout of their parent's basement to start trouble on here. I dunno just my two cents

[ToTheLeft]

To be fair, and Sch14 can vouch for me, but I've been upset with Rocco's defense and lack of innovation on defense for a while now. Which is why I was obsessively happy (See: The thread I started about it) when it seemed we were going to a 4 man front and having success with it. Then we threw that out the window, and played the prevent defense again and CCU torched us.

This is nothing new, I'm not just jumping off a bridge because we lost. I just want to see change, thats all. And I haven't seen it.

[aredd33]

I never understood why we would change what we did to beat an FBS team. I know it was Ball St. but they are still FBS. If a 4 man front is what we need for them thats what we need for FCS. Asa plus 3 others on the line equals 4.5 regular people.

[jack_sparrow81]

Some of the recent grads and current students that are sounding off have had it made compared to what we had at the beginning of the decade. Imagine having all losing seasons (and I mean bad) every year you were at Liberty. The only teams we could beat those years were named after hotels (Wingate). I think every joke around campus centered around the football team. We're now consistently in the the top 25 and were ranked 12th last week whether you agree with the ranking or not. People know about Liberty Football now.

[Schfourteenteen]

None of the above, although I'm probably closest to #2.

I want to see Rocco make changes within schemes and formations. I want to see us switch to a 4 man front, as it has generated the most success defensively(from my limited view). I don't think people need to be fired in order for this to happen.

[R i]

To be fair, and Sch14 can vouch for me, but I've been upset with Rocco's defense and lack of innovation on defense for a while now. Which is why I was obsessively happy (See: The thread I started about it) when it seemed we were going to a 4 man front and having success with it. Then we threw that out the window, and played the prevent defense again and CCU torched us.

This is nothing new, I'm not just jumping off a bridge because we lost. I just want to see change, thats all. And I haven't seen it.

change? yeah I hate winning the Big south Championship all the time....

TTL says:
insert, stoneybrook really one it last year.. and we did not win it this year, and rocco did not win it his first year......

I have not looked up the stat, but Who wins their confrence this much... not many.

[vicfirth1989]

3.

[BJWilliams]

3.

[Rooster Cogburn]

5. Let JB and DR make the changes if they are needed.

[lufan11]

Keep Rocco but change the offensive coaches, change the offense and open up the runningback and fullback job. Problems would be solved if they open up all the position jobs in the Spring and offseason.

[olldflame]

Keep Rocco but change the offensive coaches, change the offense and open up the runningback and fullback job. Problems would be solved if they open up all the position jobs in the Spring and offseason.

If you could get past your man-crush on a scrub RB, you would see that clearly our problems are primarily defensive. Trust me, our coaches have no incentive whatsoever to keep someone on the bench who can help the team.

[lufan11]

Keep Rocco but change the offensive coaches, change the offense and open up the runningback and fullback job. Problems would be solved if they open up all the position jobs in the Spring and offseason.

If you could get past your man-crush on a scrub RB, you would see that clearly our problems are primarily defensive. Trust me, our coaches have no incentive whatsoever to keep someone on the bench who can help the team.

Cute but stupid. The defense has carried this team all year long and what happened at James Madison, how many times inside the red zone with no points? How many times this year is it 3rd and short but we don't get the 1st down? Yes, the defense played bad this weekend but for the year it is the offense that is the problem and the lack of weapons besides 2 players.

[LUconn]

The defense has carried this team all year long and what happened at James Madison, how many times inside the red zone with no points? How many times this year is it 3rd and short but we don't get the 1st down? Yes, the defense played bad this weekend but for the year it is the offense that is the problem and the lack of weapons besides 2 players.

http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm? ... 3&TeamID=9

you look at those scores and tell me if points is a problem for this team. 1 game they didn't get it done. 1 game.

[From the class of 09]

Keep Rocco but change the offensive coaches, change the offense and open up the runningback and fullback job. Problems would be solved if they open up all the position jobs in the Spring and offseason.

If you could get past your man-crush on a scrub RB, you would see that clearly our problems are primarily defensive. Trust me, our coaches have no incentive whatsoever to keep someone on the bench who can help the team.

Cute but stupid. The defense has carried this team all year long and what happened at James Madison, how many times inside the red zone with no points? How many times this year is it 3rd and short but we don't get the 1st down? Yes, the defense played bad this weekend but for the year it is the offense that is the problem and the lack of weapons besides 2 players.

From what I've saw the RB jobs where open all summer into the fall and as far as I can tell are still open if someone will step up (I know chancey has been getting the carries but who would you put in for him?) Really who?

As for team there have been plenty of problems on both sides of the ball. If you want to see what it looks like for a defense to carry a team look at Nebraska last year. Plenty of blame on both sides.

[olldflame]

This is the player lufan11 believes is the solution to our offensive problems (he posted about it on another thread):

http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm? ... 4&TeamID=9

Hasn't carried the ball all year.

[lufan11]

This is the player lufan11 believes is the solution to our offensive problems (he posted about it on another thread):

http://www.libertyflames.com/index.cfm? ... 4&TeamID=9

Hasn't carried the ball all year.

Part of the solution and go read what I posted about Chase and how the offense should be tweaked to maximize the players on the roster. One player won't fix the problem but this one will sure help but I did findout he wasn't in summer camp so maybe he just came aboard. Will tell you this though, it's obvious you don't know the state and what players have excelledn or else you wouldn't make the comments like you did.

[olldflame]

I love Chase Barnette's game and would really like to see him get more carries also. My understanding is that he has not been playing because he has some nagging injuries and has just not been healthy enough to utilize the burst and sharp cuts that set him apart from our other tailbacks.

[lufan11]

I love Chase Barnette's game and would really like to see him get more carries also. My understanding is that he has not been playing because he has some nagging injuries and has just not been healthy enough to utilize the burst and sharp cuts that set him apart from our other tailbacks.

Now we are starting to see a little something in common. Chase Barnett is a helluva RB who ran out of the I in HS but is to small to do this 20 plus times in college so if there isn't some way to maximize his potential, he'll do as he does now and wait for a few carries here and there. Chase is a slot RB who could also contribute in wishbone or any offense but he can't do what Rashard did. Guess I'm trying to say he's a different RB but in the current offense he'll just be as is now. I do know about the injuries too and hope he is healthy in the spring. The scrub RB you highlited, I didn't know he missed summer camp so you are correct, hasn't even carried the ball. When he does, just remember where you heard the name, then chuckle when you think back to the scrub comment and just know I am switching the offense up some so the running game becomes a weapon that compliments the QB and WR.

Where is the weak defensive link? Where is the problem? I missed the Coastal and Robert Morris games but where does the defense need help at? I thought the DL has been solid, linebackers but the number of points they give is not good. The JMU game though, they played well and in this impact game I thought the offense was the problem and the ability to make the short yardage down in the red zone. Don't mean to type alot but you will find that, I love the Lord and love Football, might not have seen as much Liberty Football like some but I'm learning.