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LU in the news.

Posted: September 15th, 2008, 1:04 pm
by Mixitup
FCS Recap: Three Early Risers

Like Albany, the Liberty Flames out of the Big South also made an important step to meeting autobid criteria by holding onto a 19-16 win over Western Carolina, a member of the SoCon.


Full Story:
http://www.championshipsubdivisionnews. ... &tb=1&pb=1

Posted: September 15th, 2008, 1:08 pm
by Cider Jim
If the #25-ranked Flames win either of their two out-of-conference games versus #23-ranked Youngstown State out of the Gateway (who dispatched Division II Central State 38-0) or undefeated Lafayette out of the Patriot League (who defeated Georgetown 28-6 on Saturday) they would meet a key goal in securing their first-ever playoff bid.

Posted: September 15th, 2008, 1:11 pm
by SuperJon
Add Elon to that quote you just put. The article forgot to mention them.

Posted: September 15th, 2008, 2:54 pm
by Rocketfan
SuperJon wrote:Add Elon to that quote you just put. The article forgot to mention them.
Plus then it would be 2 out of 3.....not either....correct?

Posted: September 15th, 2008, 3:02 pm
by Rooster Cogburn
can someone lay out all of the "At-Large" selection criteria please?

Posted: September 15th, 2008, 3:06 pm
by jcmanson
-an average finish in the top 16 of three major polls (TSN, coach's, & GPI)
-At least 2 wins against teams from auto-bid leagues (we already have 1, and need 1 more against Elon, Lafayette, or YSU)
-7 D1 wins

If we do all that, we get an "auto-bid" which basically we just need to finish in the top 16 because in order for us to finish that high everything else will have to happen.

Posted: September 15th, 2008, 3:12 pm
by JDUB
but there is still a chance of us getting in without the autobid, right?

Posted: September 15th, 2008, 3:13 pm
by jcmanson
Yes, there's a chance.

Posted: September 15th, 2008, 3:18 pm
by Rooster Cogburn
How much of a chance? The way I see it, as Liberty we better get the Auto Bid. Just my opinion!

Posted: September 15th, 2008, 3:21 pm
by RagingTireFire
Rooster Cogburn wrote:How much of a chance?
A .0000000001% chance, give or take a 0. The "earned access" is there to provide non-autobid schools a roadmap to get to the playoffs. If said school doesn't meet the criteria -- which isn't all that much really -- then said school probably doesn't deserve to get in anyway.

Posted: September 15th, 2008, 3:27 pm
by jcmanson
Bottom line is, if we do what we need to do to make the playoffs everything will work itself out. If not, we don't deserve to be in.

Posted: September 15th, 2008, 6:20 pm
by LUconn
Wow. Definitive words right there.

Posted: September 15th, 2008, 9:31 pm
by Pinckrock
Again I say it. All of the items mentioned as criteria are clearly measurable except the potential bias of a poll. I have never liked the idea of a team's opportunity for something like the play-offs being subject to "polls." Win the right to play on the field and let the "polls" be amusing conversations for bored people. This goes for FCS or BCS. :roll:

Posted: September 16th, 2008, 9:14 am
by Schfourteenteen
jcmanson wrote:Bottom line is, if we do what we need to do to make the playoffs everything will work itself out. If not, we don't deserve to be in.
So at 9-3 we are definitely out?


Wait, would we need 7 or 8 DI wins? because that would officially eliminate us if we went 9-3

Posted: September 16th, 2008, 9:18 am
by SuperJon
We need 8 Division I wins.

Posted: September 16th, 2008, 9:20 am
by Schfourteenteen
Cool so 9-3 means no playoffs. K

Posted: September 16th, 2008, 9:22 am
by SuperJon
9-3 means no earned access.

There's still a chance at 9-3 but it isn't very good.

Posted: September 16th, 2008, 9:26 am
by Schfourteenteen
SuperJon wrote:9-3 means no earned access.

There's still a chance at 9-3 but it isn't very good.
So is the minimum number of wins 7 or 8? Not to get the auto, but to qualify?
Or does that clause not apply?
As in, last year we needed 7 DI wins to get in, but only had 6, which eliminated us. Is that still in effect now?

Posted: September 16th, 2008, 9:28 am
by SuperJon
To get into the playoffs, FCS teams are required to have seven Division I wins.


To get the automatic At-Large through the earned access rule, teams from conferences without an auto-bid are required to have eight Division I wins with two of them being over schools from auto-bid leagues.

Posted: September 16th, 2008, 9:31 am
by jcmanson
I don’t see us being ranked in the top 16 unless we’re 11-1. I hope I’m wrong, but I just don’t see it.