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SuperJon wrote:It won't be from scratch. We still have amazing facilities and FCOA. It's not that hard to recruit football players who can mostly be anonymous. Our rules are almost non existent now.Liberty´s rules are certainly not the recruiting obstacle they used to be, but a coach and program can and should hold athletes who are on scholarship and representing the school to a higher standard. Last I heard Theo Johnson is still in school, but he is no longer on our basketball team.
SuperJon wrote:We all agree Josh is a giant problem. How does Gill get no heat for not creating a competition or allowing Josh to become a cancer?I can tell you there was NOT going to be any QB competition or controversy with 6 being under center. There was enough to warrant that after 3 led us in his games last year, but without a shadow of a doubt all 6 all day.
The locker room issues went back to last year and Gill let it get worse. He's responsible for it.
Rooster Cogburn wrote:For the record, he recruited JT Bradwell.And couldn't keep him. Yes it's on the player, but unfortunately it's a negative for the coach as well.
Rooster Cogburn wrote:No, we don't all agree... Consequences for what? Do you know any of this for a fact? Just your observations IMHO.and barring any injuries if the qb that wins the job next year is NOT Masha they will break all of his records because that person will be a 4 yr possible starter so IMO his records hold no real weight because yes he has had the opportunity to win games, but HE has also lost and cost this team some games too.
Josh takes a lot of heat here. Issues at times, yes, but he's won a lot of games here in his career. Like it or not, he holds a lot of records and will be in the HOF. Glad he came.
BuryYourDuke wrote:I don't think it's coincidence that our best offensive outputs of the season were when Josh took the blinders off and found guys other than Petey. Definitely major offensive line issues though. It's hard to win football games when you literally cannot run the football.Injuries definitely hurt the offensive line. But why did we have no depth to begin with? That's a recruiting and development issue.
jinxy wrote:Gill is getting a little heat on the Facebook post. Must be insane that people other than usports question him. Gill allowed woodrum to get to this point. He hasn't been able to recruit a qb in 4 years. He had a ton of attrition this year right after the best stretch in school history. Isn't that a cause for concern. The o line won't be any better next year without burgess and Sommer. The secondary is awful, Wimberley is clueless against the option. Stamn is either red hot or stone cold every other game. The special teams have been an abject disaster for 4 years and they are currently worse than year 1. His daughter has turned into a loose cannon. I mean howe anyone can say oh yes this is the guy is beyond me. I'm getting close to the dale layer comparison. Great man but his record is what it is. Doing less with more. Liberty football since 2009.I think we can be improved in the OL Burgess was a legit all conference player at Guard, but struggled at center when Holder went down. We will be better at that key position with Lucas back (and on place kicks as well). Sommer had lost his starting job to Campbell. Hopefully we have Will Smith and James Passmore healthy, and young guys like Duff and Storey will have had another year to develop. We also have gotten verbals from some good looking OLinemen, but you don´t often get help from a true FR there. Get your facts straight on the QB recruiting. In the last 4 years he recruited Masha, Ervin (who decomitted) and Bradwell, who basically took Ervin´s place. Bradwell could play. I don´t know all the details, but I´m not sure you can blame Gill for his academic failings.
SuperJon wrote:Grant Jones deciding to go Play D2 ball in PA when he probably would have been a starter didn´t help. That was a head scratcher.BuryYourDuke wrote:I don't think it's coincidence that our best offensive outputs of the season were when Josh took the blinders off and found guys other than Petey. Definitely major offensive line issues though. It's hard to win football games when you literally cannot run the football.Injuries definitely hurt the offensive line. But why did we have no depth to begin with? That's a recruiting and development issue.
Having to rely on so many young guys next year makes me question what the heck we've been doing the last couple years.
LUnpretty11 wrote:PH, your BJ skills impress me.
BuryYourDuke wrote:I can corroborate SJ's statement on the Masha situation last season.+1 to that
adam42381 wrote:And now JW's tweets are protected. #leadershipThey should've been the past four years.
SuperJon wrote:Agreed. It's just a terrible look when it comes after his guarantee went bust.adam42381 wrote:And now JW's tweets are protected. #leadershipThey should've been the past four years.
LUnpretty11 wrote:PH, your BJ skills impress me.
jinxy wrote:Gill is getting a little heat on the Facebook post. Must be insane that people other than usports question him. Gill allowed woodrum to get to this point. He hasn't been able to recruit a qb in 4 years. He had a ton of attrition this year right after the best stretch in school history. Isn't that a cause for concern. The o line won't be any better next year without burgess and Sommer. The secondary is awful, Wimberley is clueless against the option. Stamn is either red hot or stone cold every other game. The special teams have been an abject disaster for 4 years and they are currently worse than year 1. His daughter has turned into a loose cannon. I mean howe anyone can say oh yes this is the guy is beyond me. I'm getting close to the dale layer comparison. Great man but his record is what it is. Doing less with more. Liberty football since 2009.well, without saying but so much, agree on QB but Bradwell was here and didn't wanna act right, Terrance Ervin was here but when told wasn't gonna compete rolled out also. Oline will hopefully be healthy and wont have as many holes to fill. Wimberly DOES have the plan against option, but when execution is not right that's totally different. Special teams I agree, I think for one yesterday even tho they did rugby punt they could have been fielded for if nothing else to save field position. Offense I agree, but if right play is called and QB is wants to do his own thing is that on the OC too.
SuperJon wrote:Are you SEROUS, what you mean HCTG couldn't keep him, HCTG gave him the opportunity and all the kid had to do was go to class, do you want HCTG to do that for him to. You have got to be kidding me, that statement alone discredits most of all you have said. SOME things have to fall back on the student/athleteRooster Cogburn wrote:For the record, he recruited JT Bradwell.And couldn't keep him. Yes it's on the player, but unfortunately it's a negative for the coach as well.
SuperJon wrote:don't forget some of the players QUIT and is that on HCTG also, again some things are on the kids themselves. There is a depth chart as we all are aware, but in general you have to get kids to stay or fall in line with the program and not all kids are willing to conform or want to put in the work.BuryYourDuke wrote:I don't think it's coincidence that our best offensive outputs of the season were when Josh took the blinders off and found guys other than Petey. Definitely major offensive line issues though. It's hard to win football games when you literally cannot run the football.Injuries definitely hurt the offensive line. But why did we have no depth to begin with? That's a recruiting and development issue.
Having to rely on so many young guys next year makes me question what the heck we've been doing the last couple years.
forbidden wrote:It's on the kid to go to class, but regardless of the reason he leaves the program, if he leaves and doesn't graduate somewhere else it falls on the head coach. That's an NCAA rule, not a Jonathan rule.SuperJon wrote:Are you SEROUS, what you mean HCTG couldn't keep him, HCTG gave him the opportunity and all the kid had to do was go to class, do you want HCTG to do that for him to. You have got to be kidding me, that statement alone discredits most of all you have said. SOME things have to fall back on the student/athleteRooster Cogburn wrote:For the record, he recruited JT Bradwell.And couldn't keep him. Yes it's on the player, but unfortunately it's a negative for the coach as well.
adam42381 wrote:And now JW's tweets are protected. #leadershipLOL, isn't he the same guy that sat at the microphone and said hey its fine you can talk about me, "I can take it" but now has blocked people. SMH. On second thoughts maybe I would like to see him on the microphone and see how he handles himself and the 15 min of possible criticism unless LU being LU now wants to only allow certain questions, that he can handle and answer
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