[bigsmooth]

Turner Gill- 25-49
Dennis Wagner- 8-36
Carl Torbush- 20-26
Of these three coaches, none have a winning record as a head coach. I am not questioning the character of this coaching staff or their success off the field. But their records on the field doesn't look good.

these are HEAD coaching numbers. though im still on the fence about this coaching staff, just because you are not a good head coach you could be a good coordinator. so the only numbers here that are relevant in my opinion are Coach Gill's.

[Purple Haize]

SMOOTH- play calling is a direct result of the talent you have. If we don't have a play making wide out what good does it do to throw deep routes? I mean if they can't get separation from the DB's and can't go up and get the ball why call that play?
The OL penalties can be taken care of but it's the players not the coaches moving early. Now if we had tons of unnecessary roughness penalties, that would be a negative reflection of the coaches lack of discipline.
Perspective is not just a big word. If we had the same staff as last year with similar results, is be stressed. But like it or not we are essentially starting over. I would say to people like PA we are neither re building OR reloading. We are flat out building.

[BiggAl57]

Hard fought game that could have gone either way. This team doesn't quit. I love watching John Lunsford kick. What a leg!

I think they are prepared for conference play and Stony Brook looked beatable today.

We would not be eligible for the playoffs with only 6 D1 wins so our only hope is to win out. We will have to win the BSC to go to the playoffs.

[SuperJon]

You can have six wins and go to the playoffs if you earn your automatic bid.

[Bigsouthking]

Turner Gill- 25-49
Dennis Wagner- 8-36
Carl Torbush- 20-26
Of these three coaches, none have a winning record as a head coach. I am not questioning the character of this coaching staff or their success off the field. But their records on the field doesn't look good.

Gill has 53 losses if you count this 0-4 start at LU... So he was hired with a 25-49 record...I wonder if anyone caught that at his press conference...
Anyway the point of these guys records is, they are the highest paid 1-AA staff in the state and maybe the USA.

[Purple Haize]

I think Gill gets a pass on his record because everyone who knows football knows that he helped build Buffalo up. As for Kansas who knows. We've had the KU Crazies post here but I think more happened then anyone knows. It may have been his outspoken faith, who knows.
What I see is a staff and a team finding their way and being competitive. If I read correctly we signed 3 OL so it also tells me they know where we need help and went out and got it!

[jbock13]

The fact that Kansas fans take the time to post on some FCS school board tells you all you need to know. GIll wasn't the problem at Kansas.

[Bigsouthking]

I think Gill gets a pass on his record because everyone who knows football knows that he helped build Buffalo up. As for Kansas who knows. We've had the KU Crazies post here but I think more happened then anyone knows. It may have been his outspoken faith, who knows.
What I see is a staff and a team finding their way and being competitive. If I read correctly we signed 3 OL so it also tells me they know where we need help and went out and got it!

He had 1 decent year at Buffalo...

2-10
5-7
8-6
5-7

Yeah nice build up... Do your research. Maybe he wins at LU, we'll see...

[sporter]

Not specifically a Lehigh comment, but on a sidenote to the receiver comments, does anyone know if Darrin Peterson has played or is he potentially getting redshirted? Really hoping he can be a playmaker at some point in his career.

[NotAJerry]

I honestly don't think I've ever been as frustrated as I am after last night (and that comes from a Duke football fan as well). This team should be 3-1 period, end of discussion. Yes, I thought the officiating was tight last night and they missed a pass interference on our 2 pt. conversion but what are you going to do? We had Lehigh against the ropes and all we had to do was play smart and get some points on the board when we were up 20-14, whether a field goal or (preferably a TD) a two possession lead may have been all we needed in that match up. Then we allowed their QB to run in a long TD. Seriously? Seriously? It should have never come down to that 2 pt. conversion plain and simple.

First of all, the 2pt conversion play was a bad pass by Woodrum because he threw to someone who was blanket covered and was not in the end zone. It was an awful decision by the QB. Second, Woodrum clearly fumbled before the 2pt conversion, so we shouldn't even have gotten the 6 we did there. If the refs get the obvious fumble call right, then there's no 2pt conversion to complain about. Two bad calls by the officials and it hurt Lehigh by 4 more points than it hurt us.

[bigsmooth]

SMOOTH- play calling is a direct result of the talent you have. If we don't have a play making wide out what good does it do to throw deep routes? I mean if they can't get separation from the DB's and can't go up and get the ball why call that play?
The OL penalties can be taken care of but it's the players not the coaches moving early. Now if we had tons of unnecessary roughness penalties, that would be a negative reflection of the coaches lack of discipline.
Perspective is not just a big word. If we had the same staff as last year with similar results, is be stressed. But like it or not we are essentially starting over. I would say to people like PA we are neither re building OR reloading. We are flat out building.

haize, i understand play calling is about talent. but at times kelly, ferguson, or dutra have the ability to drun a deep route. i also understand players move early not coaches, but maybe its the technique the guys are being taught. and you can teach discipline and challenge them to do better and not jump.

[bigsmooth]

I think Gill gets a pass on his record because everyone who knows football knows that he helped build Buffalo up. As for Kansas who knows. We've had the KU Crazies post here but I think more happened then anyone knows. It may have been his outspoken faith, who knows.
What I see is a staff and a team finding their way and being competitive. If I read correctly we signed 3 OL so it also tells me they know where we need help and went out and got it!

atta boy chugger ...have another tall cold glass...

[Purple Haize]

I think Gill gets a pass on his record because everyone who knows football knows that he helped build Buffalo up. As for Kansas who knows. We've had the KU Crazies post here but I think more happened then anyone knows. It may have been his outspoken faith, who knows.
What I see is a staff and a team finding their way and being competitive. If I read correctly we signed 3 OL so it also tells me they know where we need help and went out and got it!

He had 1 decent year at Buffalo...

2-10
5-7
8-6
5-7

Yeah nice build up... Do your research. Maybe he wins at LU, we'll see...

Lets see 8>5>2. Yep he certainly got the team better. Not sure about the 5-7 but by then his name was being floated for other jobs so people in the football world knew he was doing a good job there.

[Purple Haize]

I think Gill gets a pass on his record because everyone who knows football knows that he helped build Buffalo up. As for Kansas who knows. We've had the KU Crazies post here but I think more happened then anyone knows. It may have been his outspoken faith, who knows.
What I see is a staff and a team finding their way and being competitive. If I read correctly we signed 3 OL so it also tells me they know where we need help and went out and got it!

atta boy chugger ...have another tall cold glass...

Only if you are buying Mr Steel Magnate!

[bigsmooth]

of course i will buy and laugh as you become more like a YES-MAN

[Purple Haize]

of course i will buy and laugh as you become more like a YES-MAN

That's just hurtful. How long have you known me? Calling me a Yes Man is about like saying you look graceful doing a cart wheel in gymnastics. And I have video

[Bigsouthking]

Record at Kansas
3-9
2-10

Current LU record 0-4

Why would no one else hire him? Auburn? Others?

[Purple Haize]

You think NAJ has an agenda on our QB situation?

NAJ? An agenda? Noooooooo

[jinxy]

Smooth totally agree about throwing down Field. Dcoordinators are moving coverages in tight because we are throwing short so much, its easier to jump those routes. NAJ, watch the replay, i bet there wasnt more than 1 receiver in the end zone and he was blanketed. We have rolled out to the right against nsu and last night (cutting the field in half). It was a bad play call, sure you have to throw ut in the end zone but he had no chance. I dont see hudson as better , hes made the big mistake that cost us the first two games

[NotAJerry]

You think NAJ has an agenda on our QB situation?

Nope. Woodrum will be a solid QB in time, but he's clearly behind Hudson as far as making bad reads and throwing INTs at this point.

[R i]

I have been sitting on the Baptist side for 3 years now, and the Lehigh game, was the best performance by that particular area Ive seen yet. A dose of 0-4 , with a chance to still make the playoffs, might be just what the Dr. ordered for our fan base, flamefans.com, and this team. We have been given some real expectations for the first time in a while. Pulling together to support a losing team can make our fans a little more invested in this team. We have gotten a chance to see Montana at home,and how well Norfolk state and Lehigh travel. Its been an eye opener to our relatively young fan base.

Im not sure about this team's trend, but I know our fans are trending upward. JB and his staff should get some credit. A nice run through conference would build on that. Im with SJ, a losing season is not acceptable , even with the opening slate of games. If we win the conference, and make the playoffs, I will look back at this 0-4 start and say it was the best thing that has ever happened to this program as a whole.

[LUconn]

I think Gill gets a pass on his record because everyone who knows football knows that he helped build Buffalo up. As for Kansas who knows. We've had the KU Crazies post here but I think more happened then anyone knows. It may have been his outspoken faith, who knows.
What I see is a staff and a team finding their way and being competitive. If I read correctly we signed 3 OL so it also tells me they know where we need help and went out and got it!

He had 1 decent year at Buffalo...

2-10
5-7
8-6
5-7

Yeah nice build up... Do your research. Maybe he wins at LU, we'll see...

It's Buffalo. You took the time to look up his record. The least you could have done is look at the records before and then after Gill

Since going 1A, here is buffalo's seasons with Gill in red

0-11
2-9
3-8
1-11
1-11
2-9
1-10
2-10
5-7
8-6
5-7
2-10
3-9

Are we really going to pretend like that is pedestrian?

[alabama24]

Thanks LUconn

[forbidden]

After sitting back reading a lot of comments, it's amazing what I hear, bottom I coach football and know how coaches get on players about procedure penalties. If you think TG is not ur fooling yourselves, this does have a little to do with player dIscIpline but also the qbs cadences at times, more the first than the latter. This team has no real wr threat (downfIeld) so how hard is it for defenses to sit on a lot of routes. Only thing they r working off of is just hope the guy can win on an occasional 9 route or off of play action passes. They are in all of the games and yes I know everybody wants to win, but that first one is the hardest to get

[Svandive]

I don't like those last 2 years after he left. Does it have something to do with recruiting or lack of it.


Here is my take on the season so far.

I don't think that the schedule has been as tough as what everyone is saying. Yes, tougher that the Big South but not in the overall sense. Norfolk State is not that good, they lost to Howard and got blitzed by Ohio, Montana is not the power they used to be with all the problems but in name only (they just got beat by N Arizona), Lehigh plays a very watered down schedule. Wake Forest is the exception and I applaude our effort there. In the 90's we had tougher stretches by far. Somehow I gather that we are falling to the low standards of the Big South and anytime we play a team in a tougher conference it gets labeled as "tough".

Position wise: Our offensive line is better than last year but not by much. Not as good as what I saw out of JMU. Not even close.
WR - No play makers with no speed. We have 3 star recruits who are not playing and we put walk-ons out there. Henderson, Pratt, and maybe Pederson were highly recruited. What is up with that.

RB - Adequate is a good word to use here Allen and Holloway are OK but not great.

DB - Good talent here

DL - Not as good as advertised. Francis Bah is missed and he was a force in the WF game but without him something is missing.

LB - No depth. Injuries have taken its toll. Sigmon is key here.

Kickers - Great stuff.

Thats all for now.