[LUconn]

Yeah, our secondary has been stellar so far. And apparently MM isn't afraid to abandon the passing game. So I see a lot of running. Should really limit the possessions and keep the game close.

[ProudPapa73]

The past history between these two teams will fade and this season will explode with potential with a LU victory over JMU this weekend. The final spread or score won't matter as long as we win. Short and sweet. Ala Adrian Balboa to Rocky from her hospital bed as he sat faithfully at her side...
"WIN."
Goosebumps anybody??!!

[BiggAl57]

The past history between these two teams will fade and this season will explode with potential with a LU victory over JMU this weekend. The final spread or score won't matter as long as we win. Short and sweet. Ala Adrian Balboa to Rocky from her hospital bed as he sat faithfully at her side...
"WIN."
Goosebumps anybody??!!

+1 YO!

[TH Spangler]

I look for a close game, won by the team that wants it the most.

[R i]

I look for a close game, won by the team that wants it the most.

both teams want it the most.

[Dukie95]

I look for a close game, won by the team that wants it the most.

both teams want it the most.

Liberty wants it the most
JMU needs it the most

"want" wins out over "need".

[ChadE681]

I went to the NC State game and had no problem whatsoever. I walked through their tailgating area by the RBC Center and the only thing that was terrible was the smell of the porta-potties.

[flameshaw]

I went to the NC State game and had no problem whatsoever. I walked through their tailgating area by the RBC Center and the only thing that was terrible was the smell of the porta-potties.

That is because we are nice people down here in Raleigh.

[BiggAl57]

Game time temp - 62 according to the weather channel
partly cloudy
little wind

[LUconn]

So JMUers, how's your secondary and pass rush looking? That will be the key if LU can notch more than 17 points

[JMUDukeDawg]

So JMUers, how's your secondary and pass rush looking? That will be the key if LU can notch more than 17 points

Pass rush has yet to get a sack, which is obviously a concern. However, if you look at the two games, it's kind of to be expected against UNC, whose front four was massive, and while we didn't get any sacks against CCSU, their QB was 14-36 and had to resort to short passes (only 3.6 yds/pass). I also think defensive pressure was key to the two picks that game.

Which leads to the secondary. UNC's QB was 22 of 23 with a pick being his only incompletion. On its face that's not good, but being at the game, the encouraging thing was there weren't a lot of YAC being rolled up. For the most part, we were right on the receivers when they caught it.

All in all, they are supposed to be a little better, but appear to be a little worse, than last year. Our two (alleged) starting DTs are out. I only say alleged because one is supposed to have been a starting DT for two years now and has played approximately six quarters, so who knows how much of a factor his absence will be.

If I had to guess just the Liberty score, I would say anywhere between the 10-20 range. There's not a ton of unknown between these two teams when Liberty has the ball, so I wouldn't expect to see a lot more scoring from Liberty than last year (although I don't think they get held to just a FG again). The key to this game is when JMU has the ball. I think JMU could score anywhere from 0-28 points on Saturday and it's just impossible to guess where they'll land.

[LUconn]

If I had to guess just the Liberty score, I would say anywhere between the 10-20 range. There's not a ton of unknown between these two teams when Liberty has the ball, so I wouldn't expect to see a lot more scoring from Liberty than last year (although I don't think they get held to just a FG again). The key to this game is when JMU has the ball. I think JMU could score anywhere from 0-28 points on Saturday and it's just impossible to guess where they'll land.

I couldn't disagree more. This is like sandbagging to say if JMU loses, they beat themselves. I think Liberty will most likely not struggle on offense like they have. This first year, neither offense was going to do anything because of the weather. Last year, LUs offense played very poorly. I think it was a combination of the psyche vs JMU, being on the road and certainly JMU getting the job done on their end. If the flames don't score more than 20, at home, vs an opponent that they are dying to play, JMU will have game planned VERY well and executed VERY well and will most likely be a very good defense going forward.

[JMUDukeDawg]

If I had to guess just the Liberty score, I would say anywhere between the 10-20 range. There's not a ton of unknown between these two teams when Liberty has the ball, so I wouldn't expect to see a lot more scoring from Liberty than last year (although I don't think they get held to just a FG again). The key to this game is when JMU has the ball. I think JMU could score anywhere from 0-28 points on Saturday and it's just impossible to guess where they'll land.

I couldn't disagree more. This is like sandbagging to say if JMU loses, they beat themselves. I think Liberty will most likely not struggle on offense like they have. This first year, neither offense was going to do anything because of the weather. Last year, LUs offense played very poorly. I think it was a combination of the psyche vs JMU, being on the road and certainly JMU getting the job done on their end. If the flames don't score more than 20, at home, vs an opponent that they are dying to play, JMU will have game planned VERY well and executed VERY well and will most likely be a very good defense going forward.

Do you see the irony/hypocrisy in this response? You disagree and take offense because I'm "sandbagging", then proceed to tell me how LU (or God in the case of two years ago) caused all their own problems the last couple of years...(while giving JMU's D minimal credit - which, for all you know, I was including in my analysis).

We return nine starters on a defense that was third in scoring defense and eighth in total defense in the country last year...and we were 6-5. Forgive me if I think the key to a JMU win (and this game in general) is offensive production. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.

Don't get me wrong, the team that wins this will have earned it, and it may very well be LU, but as I see it, the game is won or lost when JMU has the ball (whether that be offensive ineptitude, stellar D by LU, or, more likely, a combination of both).

[jcmanson]

If JMU's offense really hasn't improved since last year, they won't score 10 points on us. If that's the case, I actually think it will be a shutout.

[Rooster Cogburn]

If JMU's offense really hasn't improved since last year, they won't score 10 points on us. If that's the case, I actually think it will be a shutout.

Ding Ding Ding

[JMUDukeDawg]

If JMU's offense really hasn't improved since last year, they won't score 10 points on us. If that's the case, I actually think it will be a shutout.

I think that's definitely a possibility (thus my 0-28 score range). Just looking at this year, if we run like we did against UNC and pass like we did against CCSU, we won't score any points against Liberty (on offense...we'd have to pray for some special teams or defensive points to avoid the shutout).

[jcmanson]

I'm predicting a score in the range of:

Liberty 10-40
JMU 0 -30

I should definitely win our score prediction thread with that

[LUconn]

If I had to guess just the Liberty score, I would say anywhere between the 10-20 range. There's not a ton of unknown between these two teams when Liberty has the ball, so I wouldn't expect to see a lot more scoring from Liberty than last year (although I don't think they get held to just a FG again). The key to this game is when JMU has the ball. I think JMU could score anywhere from 0-28 points on Saturday and it's just impossible to guess where they'll land.

I couldn't disagree more. This is like sandbagging to say if JMU loses, they beat themselves. I think Liberty will most likely not struggle on offense like they have. This first year, neither offense was going to do anything because of the weather. Last year, LUs offense played very poorly. I think it was a combination of the psyche vs JMU, being on the road and certainly JMU getting the job done on their end. If the flames don't score more than 20, at home, vs an opponent that they are dying to play, JMU will have game planned VERY well and executed VERY well and will most likely be a very good defense going forward.

Do you see the irony/hypocrisy in this response? You disagree and take offense because I'm "sandbagging", then proceed to tell me how LU (or God in the case of two years ago) caused all their own problems the last couple of years...(while giving JMU's D minimal credit - which, for all you know, I was including in my analysis).

We return nine starters on a defense that was third in scoring defense and eighth in total defense in the country last year...and we were 6-5. Forgive me if I think the key to a JMU win (and this game in general) is offensive production. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.

Don't get me wrong, the team that wins this will have earned it, and it may very well be LU, but as I see it, the game is won or lost when JMU has the ball (whether that be offensive ineptitude, stellar D by LU, or, more likely, a combination of both).

I do see the irony, but it's not hypocritical. I said "I couldn't disagree more". You were accurate in thinking I took offense to you basically saying JMU would have to beat themselves to win but hey, I guess we haven't really proved otherwise in this series. My opinion is that this game will change that perception.

[JMUDukeDawg]

I'm predicting a score in the range of:

Liberty 10-40
JMU 0 -30

I should definitely win our score prediction thread with that

Not when JMU wins 38-7...

[Sly Fox]

From the JMU fishwrap ...

Zeroing in on the Flames

Posted: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 9:15 pm
Tony Schaffner |

The Dukes will head south for a Commonwealth clash against the Liberty University Flames this Saturday.

The Flames have now won nine games in a row at Williams Stadium and are currently tied for the fourth-longest Football Championship Subdivision home winning streak. Liberty's last loss inside of Williams Stadium was a fall to No. 6 JMU, 24-10. The Dukes are currently riding a two-game winning streak against the Flames.

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[PAmedic]

seems odd to even have to mention this, but Summers needs to step it up this week.

Esp w/ Hayes out. Not that we're in trouble at WR, and it's only week 3, but I never expected him to be second on the stats sheet at any point.

Granted- not by much, but still; a bit underwhelming. Good numbers by the whole group tho- and like what I see outta Fergie.

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KELLY, Pat        2-2  10  155  15.5  1  39  77.5  
SUMMERS, Chris    2-2   8  143  17.9  1  28  71.5  
HAYES, B.J.       2-1   6   47   7.8  0  14  23.5  
ALLEN, Aldreakis  2-0   5   53  10.6  0  19  26.5  
FERGUSON, Ryan    2-0   3   55  18.3  1  37  27.5  
GARNER, Ervin     2-0   3   44  14.7  0  21  22.0 

PS: I expect to be laughing at this post come December

[jcmanson]

It will be a lot tougher for Chris to put up the same numbers this year as he did last year since everyone will be keying on him from the get go. That's fine with me though as we have very capable receivers outside of Chris in Pat, BJ (when healthy), Ervin, and even Tommy Shaver. No need to force it to Chris (as MB did a couple of times @ NC State) when we have other capable receivers.

Chris will still have some big games though even with the extra focus.

Also, I really enjoyed Rocco's explanation of the "no run game" in his weekly presser this week. He basically said, in the past 4 years we're the #1 scoring team in the nation. Hard to complain with those type numbers. Doesn't matter how you do it, all that matters is scoring. If you haven't watched it, you should. It's towards the end of the presser. Maybe around the 20 minute mark.

[Rooster Cogburn]

I've said all along it is a gameplan thing on the run or you would see more attempts.

[R i]

I can see JMU scoring twice on Kick or Punt returns. We will give them every chance

Has anyone asked D.R. about that call in the NC state game. If he would do the same thing again in the same situation? I

[R i]

seems odd to even have to mention this, but Summers needs to step it up this week.

sampson effect?