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By ballah09
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FlamesHighontheTide wrote: December 7th, 2019, 3:04 pm Is this public knowledge that Memphis boosters are pushing for Freeze?
An Insider over on their board is saying it.

Freeze wants back in the SEC and he might think Memphis will give him a better opportunity to get there.
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By BlueBlood
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He’s coached in the SEC before and there is no reason that he can’t jump directly from LU to an SEC gig when the right opportunity presents itself.

Now, if he wants to move his family closer to home than he is now, that’s another issue.
His Mississippi hometown is halfway between Memphis and Oxford, so Memphis could be appealing from that perspective.
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By cruzan_flame13
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Home is where the family is, and all of them is here. They didn't have to but they wanted to be here. That in itself is a strong statement. Freeze also said that has already filled his dream which was to be a SEC coach. Not saying he doesn't want to return it back in that conference, but it sure isn't a rush. It looks much better to build a new FBS program into some prominence, but that's my opinion.
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By FlamesHighontheTide
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IF I was a gambling man and I am not. I would bet my house on HCHF not going anywhere this year. To get a few of the guys that we got on campus today(need club to see who they are 8) ), speaks volumes to him staying or going.
By Logic
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PH:

1. Your points only go to prove mine.
2. Year one of the FBS bowl eligibility, and we are going.
3. Independent is working. Look at our future schedules.
4. You say Freeze and McCaw are lightning in a bottle, others might call that the result of faith and work.

Liberty as a whole is lightning in a bottle, or the result of faith and work. However you want to look at it, the results are what they are.

As for professors, if you are talking about laying off the those in the School of Divinity, the reality is that few youngsters want to study Divinity anymore. This is simply our culture, it’s a sign of the times. No doubt we’ve made additional hires in the school of business, engineering, and computer science. If you want to be a college professor, and want a good chance of finding a job, go with a field that is growing, not one that is shrinking. That’s just being smart.

As conservatives we are all about not having any more government positions than absolutely needed. Shouldn’t we feel the same about higher education? One of the reasons why college is so expensive in general is because other schools chose to keep professors or add more when not needed, thus bloating the payrolls. Meanwhile, Liberty costs 35 grand a year, not 75 like the University of Richmond.

But I digress. We can continue our current success, and it can grow. I’ve been saying for years that we did not need an FCS national championship in order to have success at the FBS level. None of us could’ve predicted Hugh Freeze, but then none of us could’ve predicted the incredible success that Liberty has now either. Doc was an incredible visionary, but even he, if you had told him in 1985 that Liberty would someday have a top three Natatorium in the entire country, would he even have known what a Natatorium was? Would he believe you if you told him that we were going to pay a football coach 3 1/2 million dollars a year? Would he believe you if you told him that we would have an endowment over $2 billion with no end in sight?

The best is yet to come.
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By Jonathan Carone
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The language many are using is as if McCaw will be here forever.

With as great of an AD as he is, and with more things coming out exonerating him from the Baylor situation, we don’t know that he’s here for the long haul. He very well might be, but just like with Freeze, we don’t know what will happen when a P5 calls.

That’s why those of us who are cautiously optimistic - which comes across as being naysayers or negative inside the Bubble - are slow to go all in and say everything is a success at this point. It’s too early and too unproven to make that claim given college football history and Liberty history.
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By Liberty22
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So speaking on this, Arkansas new head coach is getting $3 million a year with $5 million for assistants. If LU is paying freeze in this range which is highly likely and is giving him similar for assistants, than Freeze has every reason in the world to stay and build something incredible here. Will he win a natty here, doubtful. Could he get paid like an SEC coach and build something no one since Bowden has done and get a few NY6 bowl appearances, I have every reason to believe that.
By tyndal23
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Liberty22 wrote: December 9th, 2019, 11:08 pm So speaking on this, Arkansas new head coach is getting $3 million a year with $5 million for assistants. If LU is paying freeze in this range which is highly likely and is giving him similar for assistants, than Freeze has every reason in the world to stay and build something incredible here. Will he win a natty here, doubtful. Could he get paid like an SEC coach and build something no one since Bowden has done and get a few NY6 bowl appearances, I have every reason to believe that.
Sounds great - now lay out your plan for how LU will qualify for a NY6...
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By Liberty22
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tyndal23 wrote: December 10th, 2019, 1:26 am
Liberty22 wrote: December 9th, 2019, 11:08 pm So speaking on this, Arkansas new head coach is getting $3 million a year with $5 million for assistants. If LU is paying freeze in this range which is highly likely and is giving him similar for assistants, than Freeze has every reason in the world to stay and build something incredible here. Will he win a natty here, doubtful. Could he get paid like an SEC coach and build something no one since Bowden has done and get a few NY6 bowl appearances, I have every reason to believe that.
Sounds great - now lay out your plan for how LU will qualify for a NY6...
We all know your plan, which I am all for honestly. But you do know top G5 school gets a NY6 bid right? So even if LU doesn’t go the P5 scheduling route, which I for one am all for, they can still get a NY6 bowl as the top G5 in rankings.
By ballcoach15
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Logic wrote: December 7th, 2019, 1:58 pm However.......

1. Ian has proven he can negotiate better bowl agreements
2. If we keep winning and specifically win our P5 games, the “prestige” of those bowl games increases
3. My glass is half full....and it doesn’t have to be kool-aid

A. They (many of you) said we would languish at the FBS level without more success at the FCS level. How did that turn out?
B. They (many of you) said we can’t move up to independent, it would be a disaster as far as playing for bowl games. How did that turn out?
C. They (many of you) say our potential is capped because of a lack of prestigious bowl games. How will that turn out?

The naysayers on this board have been proven wrong at every turn. It will continue. Now carry on.
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By Jonathan Carone
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Liberty22 wrote: December 10th, 2019, 8:59 amBut you do know top G5 school gets a NY6 bid right? So even if LU doesn’t go the P5 scheduling route, which I for one am all for, they can still get a NY6 bowl as the top G5 in rankings.
You’re mostly right but you’re missing a key piece of that NY6 tie in:

It’s the highest ranked G5 Conference Champion.

With no conference championship to play for, it is currently impossible for us to qualify for a NY6 game even if we go undefeated.
By thepostman
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Couldn't we technically get one of the at large spots or are those exclusively reserved for P5 conferences?
By tyndal23
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Liberty22 wrote: December 10th, 2019, 8:59 am
tyndal23 wrote: December 10th, 2019, 1:26 am
Liberty22 wrote: December 9th, 2019, 11:08 pm So speaking on this, Arkansas new head coach is getting $3 million a year with $5 million for assistants. If LU is paying freeze in this range which is highly likely and is giving him similar for assistants, than Freeze has every reason in the world to stay and build something incredible here. Will he win a natty here, doubtful. Could he get paid like an SEC coach and build something no one since Bowden has done and get a few NY6 bowl appearances, I have every reason to believe that.
Sounds great - now lay out your plan for how LU will qualify for a NY6...
We all know your plan, which I am all for honestly. But you do know top G5 school gets a NY6 bid right? So even if LU doesn’t go the P5 scheduling route, which I for one am all for, they can still get a NY6 bowl as the top G5 in rankings.
You do know we are not part of G5 and therefore not eligible for the auto G5 slot. Have to be in one of the G5 conferences.
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By Purple Haize
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ANorris wrote: December 10th, 2019, 10:15 am
hoop20 wrote: December 9th, 2019, 10:53 pm Freeze was just extended.
Is that confirmed anywhere?
Several places. But I’m not in a position to link them right now
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By Liberty22
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Jonathan Carone wrote: December 10th, 2019, 9:16 am
Liberty22 wrote: December 10th, 2019, 8:59 amBut you do know top G5 school gets a NY6 bid right? So even if LU doesn’t go the P5 scheduling route, which I for one am all for, they can still get a NY6 bowl as the top G5 in rankings.
You’re mostly right but you’re missing a key piece of that NY6 tie in:

It’s the highest ranked G5 Conference Champion.

With no conference championship to play for, it is currently impossible for us to qualify for a NY6 game even if we go undefeated.
I did forget the conference champ portion but I do wonder if we were the highest rated “G5” what they’d do.
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By Class of 20Something
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With how much everyone involved is tweeting this, it looks like we're trying to make sure someone or some people sees it. This really looks like textbook "organic" social campaign. I would not be surprised if these tweets and FB posts are promoted.
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