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Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑September 8th, 2019, 12:41 pm
The fact you’re automatically assuming I don’t think we have problems show that your closeness to the running back room is blinding you from having a legitimate discussion.
I still have yet to hear you respond about the situation. Not all of this “closeness to the RB room stuff!” I’m talking about utilizing all of our offensive assets in a strategic way that will increase the number of threats we bring and expand the game-plan and your still focusing closeness to the RB room. Are you the “Forum Police” or something? I want the team to WIN and we can’t do it if we don’t use all options better. I watched a lot of college football this weekend and most teams used 2-3 RBS. Georgia Southern used 3 backs out of the “I” formation to run effective Option plays. I’m talking football from a veteran coaches perspective. I don’t know where you’re coming from. Respond with game winning strategies please, not all of this personality stuff!
Here’s why I haven’t responded with “game winning strategies”:
1 - I’ve been around this place long enough to know that discussing things with a parent or close friend of a player who isn’t getting playing time is pointless.
2 - I’ve been around college football programs enough to know there’s more going on behind the scenes than what we see on Saturday. If your son/friend isn’t getting the playing time you think he deserves and you’re stooping to insulting a 2000 yard running back who is playing ahead of him, it’s obvious you’re not taking into account the entire picture as well.
3 - I didn’t watch the tape and I didn’t see practice. I don’t know why the coaches did what they did on Saturday or what they saw that made them do it. Playing armchair quarterback - especially with someone who is emotionally involved - isn’t that appealing to me.
I’m glad you’re here. I hope your son/friend earns more playing time. But I’m not interested in a back and forth with someone who can’t be rational.
So much truth in this Jon. It is possible to be "close to the program" and still be fair and balanced for all the years you have been around, which is why I respect you and your insights, and respect when you call me out.
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Class of 20Something wrote: ↑September 8th, 2019, 5:26 pm
Who said Buck bulked up too much? I've always thought he was significantly undersized.
There was a ton of talk that he was too lean his first couple of seasons and he put on noticeable bulk on last season which appeared to limit the little mobility he had. That is what is being referenced.
The same thing was said about Woodrum for his senior year, and he and the whole team were not as good as the year before. Probably was more of Gill's fault. But it was said on this board.
Woodrum played his Senior season at 245 lbs. At the end of the season he immediately went on a crash program to get down to 225 for the combine. He was very open about putting on the weight to reduce the risk of an injury which could jeopardize his pro career. At that weight, he did not move well enough to run the option, which had been a pretty big weapon in the past. It hurt us.
Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑September 8th, 2019, 12:41 pm
The fact you’re automatically assuming I don’t think we have problems show that your closeness to the running back room is blinding you from having a legitimate discussion.
I still have yet to hear you respond about the situation. Not all of this “closeness to the RB room stuff!” I’m talking about utilizing all of our offensive assets in a strategic way that will increase the number of threats we bring and expand the game-plan and your still focusing closeness to the RB room. Are you the “Forum Police” or something? I want the team to WIN and we can’t do it if we don’t use all options better. I watched a lot of college football this weekend and most teams used 2-3 RBS. Georgia Southern used 3 backs out of the “I” formation to run effective Option plays. I’m talking football from a veteran coaches perspective. I don’t know where you’re coming from. Respond with game winning strategies please, not all of this personality stuff!
Just curious. Do you think Hugh Freeze is a Veteran Coach? How long has he been coaching? I’m not sure what your point is claiming “veteran coach” status
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There are others on this board who claim to be veteran coaches as well but just because you coach for a really long time doesn't make you an expert.
Regardless, I think we all heard Hugh Freeze's somewhat negative take on the team in the spring. He eased up a bit in training camp but he still made sure to speak in a way that should've indicated that he saw the writing on the wall for this season. He is brining in his kids now and this season will probably not go down as one of our best.
“We called one of our simplest plays twice [Saturday] and it was as simple of a read as you can give somebody sitting here and seeing it,” Freeze said. “Both opportunities were like in second-and-6 situations, which I think both would result in first downs if we just read it correct and we move on. We totally go to the wrong side in our decision-making. That is a disconnect for me because I know how many times we’ve practiced that. I’ve got to figure that out.”
Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑September 9th, 2019, 7:14 am
From Damien’s latest article:
“We called one of our simplest plays twice [Saturday] and it was as simple of a read as you can give somebody sitting here and seeing it,” Freeze said. “Both opportunities were like in second-and-6 situations, which I think both would result in first downs if we just read it correct and we move on. We totally go to the wrong side in our decision-making. That is a disconnect for me because I know how many times we’ve practiced that. I’ve got to figure that out.”
Right there is the difference in new coach and x coach. Not saying who right and who wrong.
Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑September 9th, 2019, 7:14 am
From Damien’s latest article:
“We called one of our simplest plays twice [Saturday] and it was as simple of a read as you can give somebody sitting here and seeing it,” Freeze said. “Both opportunities were like in second-and-6 situations, which I think both would result in first downs if we just read it correct and we move on. We totally go to the wrong side in our decision-making. That is a disconnect for me because I know how many times we’ve practiced that. I’ve got to figure that out.”
"I've got to figure that out". He is referring of course to figuring out what we can do to fix it, because what happened and who did it is painfully obvious. I'd bet $$ that at least one of those plays involved BC throwing the ball into coverage when he needed to pull it down and run for the first down that the defense was giving him. Something has to change there. Nobody expects him to be Mike Vick or Lamar Jackson. He just needs to take what the defense gives him and move on to the next play while the chains are being moved.
ballcoach15 wrote: ↑September 9th, 2019, 8:30 am
Eliminate the offensive boo boos, score some TDs, and this would have been a winnable game. We were only down 7 points at halftime.
You cannot beat anyone giving up 400+ yards on the ground.
I'm beginning to wonder whether the bad decisions are simply a result of poor judgement on specific plays or there is a "disconnect" in the QB's mind set/attitude. I'm sure BC pretty much thinks "I can make that throw" on every play. Confidence is fine, but it needs to come within the framework of the system and proper decision making. If it continues, at some point you need to decide if a line has been crossed and what you basically have is insubordination.
oldflame wrote: ↑September 9th, 2019, 9:44 am
I'm beginning to wonder whether the bad decisions are simply a result of poor judgement on specific plays or there is a "disconnect" in the QB's mind set/attitude. I'm sure BC pretty much thinks "I can make that throw" on every play. Confidence is fine, but it needs to come within the framework of the system and proper decision making. If it continues, at some point you need to decide if a line has been crossed and what you basically have is insubordination.
And, the choice of throwing into triple coverage with another wide the fridge open ... and BS had time on that play .... and others. Either no vision or lack of acuity to make it happen.
badger74 wrote: ↑September 9th, 2019, 8:00 pm
I think BC will be on a very short leash and better get his butt in the film room pronto. CHF might soon be looking longer term at QB.
He said the exact opposite in his press conference today.
badger74 wrote: ↑September 9th, 2019, 8:00 pm
I think BC will be on a very short leash and better get his butt in the film room pronto. CHF might soon be looking longer term at QB.
He said the exact opposite in his press conference today.
His post somehow makes more sense as Ballcoach not buckshot Calvert.
badger74 wrote: ↑September 9th, 2019, 8:00 pm
I think BC will be on a very short leash and better get his butt in the film room pronto. CHF might soon be looking longer term at QB.
He said the exact opposite in his press conference today.
Agreed. Looking at ASORs post from the presser, he has a lot more faith in him than the Twitter and message board keyboard jockeys do. How long that faith lasts remains to be seen, but he certainly is not holding a hook for him against Buffalo
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ballcoach15 wrote: ↑September 9th, 2019, 8:30 am
Eliminate the offensive boo boos, score some TDs, and this would have been a winnable game. We were only down 7 points at halftime.
What was the stat line like at the end of the first half?
badger74 wrote: ↑September 9th, 2019, 8:00 pm
I think BC will be on a very short leash and better get his butt in the film room pronto. CHF might soon be looking longer term at QB.
He said the exact opposite in his press conference today.
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I think we were hoping for 1-1 but 0-2 was always reality - 2 teams with a lot more talent on their rosters. Injury bug has already been an issue in key spots. This team can turn it around quick with what sounds like simple fixes on QB side of things and O line should match up better and start gelling. Buffalo is now a must win and I imaging they are pretty banged up after PSU - time to put it together and get a W - no excuses.
We have spent the last several years recruiting and plugging players in to fit Gill's rather archaic offense. Call it whatever you want. But Freeze obviously requires a bit more from different positions and the growing pains of learning through that are evident. It's going to take time. We knew this season was going to be up and down ... it just so happens we're in the middle of a major downer. There will be some positives to build on for the next few years.
ballcoach15 wrote: ↑September 11th, 2019, 1:20 pm
I seem to recall the President of the United States saying something about it would take 3 or 4 years . can't remember his exact words.