[Purple Haize]

No one contacted me or asked me to post on this, but I will definitely go ahead and vouch for Forbidden here.

He knows more about football than the vast majority of people here. Sorry. He also has more info on this team than just about anyone here. Again, sorry if that hurts feelings.

His posts are sometimes a little rambling and tough to decipher (I know he types on his phone a lot, autocorrect screws things up), but he's in a better position to assess the situation than just about anyone that posts here.

I have never doubted his football knowledge. But man he's gotta put the work in on the typing practice field

[flamehunter]

No one contacted me or asked me to post on this, but I will definitely go ahead and vouch for Forbidden here.

He knows more about football than the vast majority of people here. Sorry. He also has more info on this team than just about anyone here. Again, sorry if that hurts feelings.

His posts are sometimes a little rambling and tough to decipher (I know he types on his phone a lot, autocorrect screws things up), but he's in a better position to assess the situation than just about anyone that posts here.

He may know more but VAGolf is never wrong. Never. Ever. Just ask him.

[forbidden]

No one contacted me or asked me to post on this, but I will definitely go ahead and vouch for Forbidden here.

He knows more about football than the vast majority of people here. Sorry. He also has more info on this team than just about anyone here. Again, sorry if that hurts feelings.

His posts are sometimes a little rambling and tough to decipher (I know he types on his phone a lot, autocorrect screws things up), but he's in a better position to assess the situation than just about anyone that posts here.

I have never doubted his football knowledge. But man he's gotta put the work in on the typing practice field

Agree with you

[Jonathan Carone]

"Again, we definitely were going to get him one series for sure. That was going on," Gill said. "Unfortunately there, Stephon was not able to move the offense, so I thought that Stephen would give us a chance. Sometimes that happens when you change a quarterback, you may have somethings that happen positive. We had a few things go on there.

"Their D­-line kind of really attacked our offensive line, so it wasn't quite as good on the offensive line there either, It wasn't totally on Stephon, but it's part of a quarterback to help move our offense. Again, we'll evaluate all of that, and we'll see what we need to do."

[Purple Haize]

No one contacted me or asked me to post on this, but I will definitely go ahead and vouch for Forbidden here.

He knows more about football than the vast majority of people here. Sorry. He also has more info on this team than just about anyone here. Again, sorry if that hurts feelings.

His posts are sometimes a little rambling and tough to decipher (I know he types on his phone a lot, autocorrect screws things up), but he's in a better position to assess the situation than just about anyone that posts here.

I have never doubted his football knowledge. But man he's gotta put the work in on the typing practice field

Agree with you

Because I love you brother

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[BJWilliams]

Too bad Mavis Beacon doesn't have a mobile app or something...that may help you be more clear when youre on your phone coach forbidden...and now to revert to lurker status since the JSU thread is FINALLY posted:


(Don't get it twisted...this is the best I could find to accompany the post)

[R i]

No one contacted me or asked me to post on this, but I will definitely go ahead and vouch for Forbidden here.

He knows more about football than the vast majority of people here. Sorry. He also has more info on this team than just about anyone here. Again, sorry if that hurts feelings.

His posts are sometimes a little rambling and tough to decipher (I know he types on his phone a lot, autocorrect screws things up), but he's in a better position to assess the situation than just about anyone that posts here.

Thank You for clearing that up.

[Sly Fox]

First chance I have had to come up for air since the game ended. It was great to see so many of you all at the game. Sorry I missed some of you but it wasn't for a lack of trying.

I am finding the reaction of some of you to the game to be a bit perplexing. I sat on the 45 a couple of rows behind the Flames offense on the bench for $6/ticket. My perspective was significantly different than others. Consider me sold out on Calvert. I was watching he and Marshall very closely not only when they were on the field but also on the bench, sideline and interacting with the coaches.

First off, Stephen really seemed to be pressing after the first pick that was just a horrible decision. As he came off the field, Coach Gill gave him an intense 60 seconds before the staff worked to rebuild his confidence. He was clearly shook up and angry at himself. O-line was telling him to put it behind him and re-engineering and he seemed to respond well. Then he went back and had that nice scramble and his swagger was coming back only to disappear after the 2nd pick. After Buck went in for the series, Stephen was practically in Coach Gill's hip pocket making it clear he wanted back on the field. After pick #3 he had the resignation on face that he might have lost his job for good. You could certainly tell the rest of the unit was energized by seeing what Buck could do.

While Stephen was the QB, Buck was hanging out at the end of the sideline with #59 with the most relaxed look on his face as if he wasn't at all concerned about getting in the game. When they told him to warm up he had a casual gait and didn't seem excited a bit. His demeanor is what impressed me the most. His attitude was ridiculously cool and controlled especially in the 4th quarter as the game was coming down to the wire. That's the primary reason I believe this kid has the it factor you look for in QBs. He's not a rah-rah QB but has the coolness that I typically only see in upper classmen and the mentality the NFL loves in their signal callers.

His arm strength is obviously far superior to the rest of our roster. So that wasn't a surprise to me. What did impress me as his pocket presence and footwork. He didn't get rattled and only ran when all options were exhausted. That indicates his confidence in his arm because he actually showed some surprising speed on his scramble. I honestly believe that he is going to be our starting QB for four years. I was at Woodrum's first start at Montana and had the same sense of relief walking out of Dallas that we have found ourself a QB.

Easy on the Probert cracks, Haize. The blocked kick was on the far end of the field from my vantage point but it looked in live action like there was quite a bit of penetration up the middle. That's something we need to fix. Otherwise I thought he had a great night.

Frankie Hickson is a weapon we need to find a way to engage more frequently. He was a step faster than everybody on the field not named West.

Defensively we got caught flat-footed on that first drive. We were playing great until unexpectedly went uptempo on us mid-drive. Several other big plays for the Mustangs were as a result of not only arm-tackling but taking bad angles on the weak side. Those are areas we can make quick improvements and will need to do so before Saturday.

I really like our chances on Saturday. Some home cooking will be good for our guys. Yes, Jacksonville State is better than SMU. But not by as much as some on here might suggest. The Mustangs had a lot of talent on the field but we're rather undisciplined which surprised me a bit. Coach Morris emphasizes discipline and follows many of Dabo's philosophies.

[Purple Haize]

Seriously? I said I've backed off since the Tech game and am hoping willing and able to be proved wrong.

[Jonathan Carone]

I'm assuming by Stephen you mean Stephon?

[ballcoach15]

Sly: Excellent post above.

[Sly Fox]

I'm assuming by Stephen you mean Stephon?

Auto Correct strikes again

[LUnpretty11]

There is no doubt Calvert holds himself in a very composed and confident manner. He made 3 excellent throws Saturday night, 2 for TDs (1 of which was called back). Sly, I greatly respect your input and appreciate your view of the game and sidelines. However, Calvert is currently lacking awareness, accuracy and touch with his passes. His arm strength and pocket mobility is impressive, but I am not convinced it is enough to lead us to a win over JSU or let alone a playoff appearance. Things change, but I'm still very skeptical of Calvert for this season.

[TerraCottaGamer]

HCTG didn't say a word about Buckshot in the postgame interview.

He also wasn't asked

Good move by Kevin there. He understands Liberty politics too well to ask a question that could start a controversy.

Controversy is already started. Whether or not the question was asked or answered matters not!

[Sly Fox]

Strong arms do tend to rely on power when touch is more effective. That's a common trait among young QBs. The only way to shake that is to get experience.

[LUnpretty11]

Strong arms do tend to rely on power when touch if more effective. That's a common trait among young QBs. The only way to shake that is to get experience.

I don't disagree with this at all.

[rtb72]

There is no doubt Calvert holds himself in a very composed and confident manner. He made 3 excellent throws Saturday night, 2 for TDs (1 of which was called back). Sly, I greatly respect your input and appreciate your view of the game and sidelines. However, Calvert is currently lacking awareness, accuracy and touch with his passes. His arm strength and pocket mobility is impressive, but I am not convinced it is enough to lead us to a win over JSU or let alone a playoff appearance. Things change, but I'm still very skeptical of Calvert for this season.

Based on our sample of games and with consideration of what we have seen during the two, true tests (Tech and SMU)...do we really have an alternative? We can't go without moving the ball early against a team like JSU. I hate it for Masha b/c I really wanted him to succeed as QB and have his time after patiently waiting the past two years. I really like the kid and was impressed with how he interacted with his teammates and even the fans (he was so good to my kids at fanfest) But you can't sink the ship for the sake of one sailor.

[LUnpretty11]

There is no doubt Calvert holds himself in a very composed and confident manner. He made 3 excellent throws Saturday night, 2 for TDs (1 of which was called back). Sly, I greatly respect your input and appreciate your view of the game and sidelines. However, Calvert is currently lacking awareness, accuracy and touch with his passes. His arm strength and pocket mobility is impressive, but I am not convinced it is enough to lead us to a win over JSU or let alone a playoff appearance. Things change, but I'm still very skeptical of Calvert for this season.

Based on our sample of games and with consideration of what we have seen during the two, true tests (Tech and SMU)...do we really have an alternative? We can't go without moving the ball early against a team like JSU. I hate it for Masha b/c I really wanted him to succeed as QB and have his time after patiently waiting the past two years. I really like the kid and was impressed with how he interacted with his teammates and even the fans (he was so good to my kids at fanfest) But you can't sink the ship for the sake of one sailor.

This is a great post and sums up why I think Masha has so many fans in us. He has the potential to be something special, but it feels like there is something holding him back. I wouldn't doubt it is the short leash with #12 standing on the sidelines.

He looked anxious and out of sorts (the whole offense did) against one of the best defenses in the country at VT.
He was relaxed and comfortable against an over-matched Jacksonville team and was basically flawless at home.
He was poised in the first drive against SMU, converting on 2 or 3 key 3rd down throws. The 1st pick against SMU threw him off and it's like the wheels fell off from there. It appeared to be a miscommunication between Masha and Shells, but the miscue was enough to shake his poise and confidence. If the coaching staff treated Masha like they did Mike Brown, then Masha would be performing better than he is now. But we are in a different era and much different scenario at the backup QB spot. The future is bursting at the seams and the coaching staff doesn't have the patience to let Masha learn from mistakes - they can't afford it after last season and it's unfortunate for SM.

[Jonathan Carone]

He looked anxious and out of sorts (the whole offense did) against one of the best defenses in the country at VT.
He was relaxed and comfortable against an over-matched Jacksonville team and was basically flawless at home.

My rebuttal to that is that Masha is likely an all-conference Division II quarterback. At the FCS level, he's a great athlete. His results against Jacksonville show how successful he can be against lower quality opponents. SMU (the equivalent of a top 20 FCS school) showed that he isn't as good against top line FCS defenses.

What makes that last paragraph so hard to type for many of us is that Masha is a great kid who has been a leader on this team even back to his redshirt freshman year. We beat Coastal that year because those upperclassmen would've rather had Masha on the field than Woodrum.

If the coaching staff treated Masha like they did Mike Brown, then Masha would be performing better than he is now.

That's an unfair comparison. Yes, both are black athletic quarterbacks, but they're totally different. Mike is an NFL-caliber athlete. Masha, while athletic, isn't at that level. If he were, he'd be treated like Mike.

[LUnpretty11]

My rebuttal to that is that Masha is likely an all-conference Division II quarterback. At the FCS level, he's a great athlete. His results against Jacksonville show how successful he can be against lower quality opponents. SMU (the equivalent of a top 20 FCS school) showed that he isn't as good against top line FCS defenses.

What makes that last paragraph so hard to type for many of us is that Masha is a great kid who has been a leader on this team even back to his redshirt freshman year. We beat Coastal that year because those upperclassmen would've rather had Masha on the field than Woodrum.

I grossly disagree with the premise of your 1st paragraph.

If the coaching staff treated Masha like they did Mike Brown, then Masha would be performing better than he is now.

This statement had everything to do with confidence/patience in SM and confidence/patience in MB.

That's an unfair comparison. Yes, both are black athletic quarterbacks, but they're totally different. Mike is an NFL-caliber athlete. Masha, while athletic, isn't at that level. If he were, he'd be treated like Mike.

Yes, they are both dual-threat QBs, but you missed my point. The comparison had everything to do with the similarities between their performance at QB in their first 2 starts. SM had the confidence in those 2 games to know he was the only option. He was fully trusted, without question, to lead the team and he had to in order for LU to win/succeed.

MB was given room to fail and the confidence to know he would learn from his mistakes to get better. SM has not been afforded that same luxury. Again, it's a different era and scenario at the backup position for SM then it was for MB.

[Jonathan Carone]

Mike wasn't given room to fail. We brought in a one-year mercenary quarterback because the coaching staff didn't think he was ready to carry the team. Mike was a superior athlete and by the time his junior season rolled around, he was a better quarterback than Masha.

[Purple Haize]

I was not a huge Mike Brown fan. But he was a better QB as a JR than Masha is. I will say Masha is a better leader/teammate

[Jonathan Carone]

I will say Masha is a better leader/teammate

I have no clue where you get off saying that but okay.

[LUnpretty11]

Mike wasn't given room to fail. We brought in a one-year mercenary quarterback because the coaching staff didn't think he was ready to carry the team. Mike was a superior athlete and by the time his junior season rolled around, he was a better quarterback than Masha.

MB did not have much talent behind him at the QB position. His turnover margin was not the best, Jon. We all know this. SM isn't given the same cushion to learn from those turnovers and is not being afforded the patience to overcome them. The coaching staff can't afford to let him overcome them.
MB could throw 3 INTs against Ball State and know he had a job the next week. He could have 2 turnovers in a loss to RMU and know he was still the guy. I'm not bashing MB, far from it. I loved the guy and thought he was a tremendous leader.

However, you cannot convince me he had a better arm then SM, but he was completely entrusted to succeed. SM has not been afforded that and that makes a big difference. 2INTs? SC coming in. 3INTs? Benched the rest of the game. There's no learning or growth opportunity for a 1st year starter. HCTG can't afford that.

[Purple Haize]

I will say Masha is a better leader/teammate

I have no clue where you get off saying that but okay.

Observations of MB when he played. I don't think he was a great leader I may have over spoke and he may have been a good team mate