[Purple Haize]

logic, you think I'm thought. ToC will cause you to really go nots. You 2 are pretty much 180 degrees apart

WHAT?

logic only sees what is good pure and holy with LU athletics. ToC only sees what is waste corruption and failure.

[PAmedic]

I had get a drink before your original post made sense.

[flamesfan30]

montana is a better football team then wake forest.

[PAmedic]

montana is a better football team then wake forest.

I believe I agree with you

[jmdickens]

Also: watched the game on JCTV and the feed was surprisingly good.

really nice to be able to sit here in SE PA and get the digital broadcast over the air like that.

Welcome to 2008

[PAmedic]

yeah admittedly I have been known to be a few years behind the times.

still rockin' a Nextel phone too, I kid you not.

and wearing Sambas.

I did watch on a flat-screen TV tho, so there's that.

[krh44]

woodrum played well other than the INT and that is expected from a guy making his first start. He should start next week. AA looked very slow today and our OL is really struggling. I did not like the gabe at QB situation early. woodrum was moving the team and when gabe came in we went backwards. I just hope that the guys confidence is not waning. cutting out the mistakes and penalties is pivotal or it will be a longer season than it is now. it is all about winning the big south now. i know i will be called a hater, stupid or whatever,but after three games Im not impressed with our coaching staff. Props to montana though. and to FSN. TV..please sharpen your game or leave. two weeks in a row, tilley made a "cove spring" reference, and he said brian hudson was starting, and ray jones....im not saying a word. like SJ said earlier if its Christian it should be better, and our TV crew is not. time for lehigh.

This would be my concern in the team losing confidence. Even without the talent we lost and the injuries this is a tough schedule. Looking at a possibly 0-4 is not what everyone was expecting with new staff and FBS ready.

[jinxy]

Here's how it is. We should be thoroughly dissappointed with the events of the last 2 weeks. Realistically most of us expected us to be 1-2 at this point. We have been decimated by key injuries and the death of Coach Gill's mother. The QB situation remains even more muddled after this week. I'm as irritated as anyone with the way things have gotten off and it looks a like KU football. However, I truly believe the schedule the rest of the way should be a better barometer of where we are. We had so many new moving parts and injuries etc along with the toughest 4 games stretch since I've followed the program. If we don't get this game next week then guys like TOC will havea better leg to stand on. I dont think any of us thought we would come out worse than 1-3 after 4.

On a side note, i think you go with Woodrum, he's a possible 4 year starter with more upside in my opinion that Hudson. Hudson has made the big mistake in each of his starts. If your going to lose go wtih the younger QB with more potential and possible 4 year starter in my mind.

[truthorconsequences]

same song under the band "JB & the Underachievers"

It was only a matter of time before HE ^^ showed up...

I am around for football, basketball and baseball. Waiting for the results JB promised and JLF jr has paid for.

You should really check out some of our other sports. Great things happening here at Liberty.

You should check out how illogical you statement is. We are an 0-3 football team. Montana is a program under controversial transition. Not a great team. Stony Brook has soared past us in the mighty BSC football. Men's basketball has regressed. Hopefully Jlfjr will size up the lid on LU athletics.

[Flamesfanva]

Obviously not a good start for the Gill era, but I do think we can win the Big South and make the playoffs for the first time.

[Sly Fox]

OK, the reaction on here wasn't as severe as I expected.

First off, this was one of the best road experiences I have had in my years being around college football. The people of Montana have been ridiculously gracious to the point of it becoming a joke. SumItUp & I were stopped every few feet by Griz fans wanting to know more about our school and hoping we had a great time in Missoula despite the smoke. I'd love an excuse to come back up.

On the field, I was exceedingly proud of the play of our defense. We kept the Grizzlies in check up until the 4th quarter when the game was out of reach and our guys really showed the effects of the altitude and smoke. They played their hearts out and the Montana folks were perplexed as to why they couldn't move the ball on us.

Offensively, we really miss some of our guys up front. Malcolm is a huge loss and it was evident in our lack of ability to establish a running game. Aldreakis & Chauncey both ran timid for much of the game. And with Montana's defensive front pushing our guys around, it forced us into the bubble screens and quick outs. Woodrum seemed to look very poised for most of the game. He seemed a bit rattled and uncomfortable in the 3rd quarter but played inspired in the 4th.

Special teams was a mixed bag. SumItUp immediately reacted after the Griz punt return for the TD that we outpunted our coverage. And I agreed. That's not necessarily a crack on Bowden because the ball definitely carried further in the higher altitude. Montana is more accustomed to the difference and skyed their kicks & punts and kept Kevin from ever really getting on track. Lunsford's missed FG was plenty long enough but kept bending to the left the longer it stayed aloft. Several Montana fans were asking us if they could have our kicker as we walked out. Every time he kicked off their were ooohs & aaaahs all around us. He is going to be a great for one for as he continues to make the adjustments to the college game.

None of us have any interest in moral victories and none were won in Missoula. But the fact that we were winning the time possession of yardage game all day long and frankly the primary reasons for the defeat were all miscues on our part leaves me optimistic. Hanging onto the ball is fixable. Being able to move the ball on a powerhouse program like Montana on the road is much more difficult to master.

Despite our 0-3 record, I am really jazzed to see what we can do against Lehigh on Saturday. We are much better than our record indicates and the results will correct themselves as we move forward.

[thepostman]

Isn't this what most of us expected? Oh wait, that is a "losers" way of thinking...right logic??

This team is still the 2nd best team in the Big South but with the talent we lost of offense it is to be expected. I just wish we could've cashed in when we had, by far, the most talented team in the Big South....

[jlread]

Liberty sucks....Its not a new coaches fault. I think its time for a new training/conditioning staff...I don't care if the dude lifts cars for a living or slams boulders in Colorado for breakfast. We need less injuries we should've won this game. I don't see how this guy sleeps at night(Dr Horton could train this guy into shape) while players are getting slammed an hurt 24-7 I just can't help but wonder what preventive training could be improved... Gill is working with poo.

[jlread]

Im really Jazzed? [quote][/quote]

Dude we suck and at this rate we should be passing bobby pens and fixing other cheer leaders hair.

Get jazzed.. Get Be-Jewled while your at it. Stoney Brooks going to crush the poo stain out of our joke of a washed up team. I saw the Syracuse Game. Were a Laugh Out Loud. And u guys can keep spelling it since y'all have tons of free time.

[NotAJerry]

Do what? Can anyone translate the incoherent babbling of those two posts into anything that even slightly resembles the English language?

[TH Spangler]

Two plays broke our back, the kick return and the gaping hole Moore walked through ... even this ole man could have gotten through that one. It was the biggest hole I've seen in years, no one touched him. Other than those two plays I thought the team played very well. I liked the play calling, I liked the adjustments made on offence, we took what they gave us. We are a passing team, we need to run just enough to keep our opponents honest. I liked the short passes, they were all over the field and controlled the clock. The defense was awesome. I believe this coaching staff will be able to keep the guys motivated and the team will gel. I look for a STRONG finish to the season.

[LUconn]

Liberty sucks....Its not a new coaches fault. I think its time for a new training/conditioning staff...I don't care if the dude lifts cars for a living or slams boulders in Colorado for breakfast. We need less injuries we should've won this game. I don't see how this guy sleeps at night(Dr Horton could train this guy into shape) while players are getting slammed an hurt 24-7 I just can't help but wonder what preventive training could be improved... Gill is working with poo.

Yeah, lets boot him back to conditioning the Seahawks where he belongs. Our biggest injuries so far are a broken leg and concussion. I can't believe he didn't take the time to train for stronger bones and thicker skulls.

[truthorconsequences]

montana is a better football team then wake forest.

Well Montana got beat by App St and yesterday the Citadel crushed App St in Boone, NC 52-28. So let's not crown Montana all that yet. Howard beats Norfolk St. FSU could have beat WF worse.. up 38-0 at half. How tough is our tough schedule?

[JK37]

montana is a better football team then wake forest.

Well Montana got beat by App St and yesterday the Citadel crushed App St in Boone, NC 52-28. So let's not crown Montana all that yet. Howard beats Norfolk St. FSU could have beat WF worse.. up 38-0 at half. How tough is our tough schedule?

Okay, I'll bite.

Using transitive properties, it certainly is difficult to tell how tough our schedule is. If anything, the program lacked depth at a few key positions, and those positions have been hit hard. Lacking depth, I believe, has more to do with a previous regime that put all its eggs into one basket (last season), and then bolted when the expectations beyond that basket were made clear. But one thing is true: relative to the schedules played in recent history, it is by far our toughest; and not just because Liberty is losing. So, relatively, the toughness of this scheudle cannot be disputed.

Injuries happen. It's a violent sport. No one deserves to be fired for them. NO ONE! So, let's please stop that ridiculous talk right there.

Liberty's football team has yet to win a conference championship outright in the Big South auto-bid era. This could still be the year. And if it is, whther or not its the most talented team in the program's history, it will be the most historic moment in its history. And then, there will be more to come thereafter. This team can still achieve more than any team before. An outright conference championship has always been and continues to be the goal. Giving this staff time to figure itself and its team out, while enduring a more relatively difficult schedule than the previous ever faced, is something I am more than willing to do.

Money does not equal wins, nor are wins the only thing that matters at Liberty University. Its been documented ad nauseum here how much more funding all of our athletic programs receive and dispense as compared to the rest of the Big South. But steady growth fortifies a stronger foundation, while requiring some semblance of patience. Expectations and urgency are great; understanding and realism are, too. Let us not forget the numerous ways in which lives are still being positively impacted for Christ at Liberty University, through its athletic department as well as numerous other areas. Winning will continue to be a byproduct of that impact.



Go Flames!

[TDDance234]

Don't feed the monkey. He'll only continue to sling more poo all over this board for us to clean up.

[BJWilliams]

and corrupt weak minded souls like jlread along the way

[TH Spangler]

Let us not forget the numerous ways in which lives are still being positively impacted for Christ at Liberty University, through its athletic department as well as numerous other areas. Winning will continue to be a byproduct of that impact.
Go Flames!

And that's why I joined the Flames Club!

[Schfourteenteen]

and corrupt weak minded souls like jlread along the way

This post is relevant, insightful and fitting of a Liberty employee.

[El Scorcho]

and corrupt weak minded souls like jlread along the way

That is unexpectedly vitriolic of you, BJ. It's also not allowed on FlameFans. Cut it out.

[bigsmooth]

AMEN!