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Keenan wrote:"If you don't support us through thick and thin, don't associate with us. Fair weather fans disgust me. We have a HELL of a coach" - Pat Kelly via TwitterVery classy from you and our WR.
In other words, shut up *itches!
JLFJR wrote:Thanks for your input, PA! Very helpful.
It would put me in a much better mood if they actually win tonight!jbock13 wrote:Can't say I even believe we're a top 5 team. Top 25, yes.I was saying, if we'd won the last two games, which we SHOULD have, we'd be top 5.
Anyways, I'm going to go get my mind of this stuff and work on a nice awesome History paper before the Rays game
Sly Fox wrote:Thanks for the pics, Medic.Sorry, I have to call BS here. The majority of this board was predicting 3-1 and some even claiming we'd be 4-0.
I guess if I had to completely miss a game tied up at an event for my son, this would be a good one to not have to endure based on the reaction.
We all knew that 1-3 was a realistic possibility coming into this season. The room for error is now completely gone.
Kentucky Wesleyan comes at just the right time. I'll leave it at that.
TDDance234 wrote:EXACTLY.Sly Fox wrote:Thanks for the pics, Medic.Sorry, I have to call BS here. The majority of this board was predicting 3-1 and some even claiming we'd be 4-0.
I guess if I had to completely miss a game tied up at an event for my son, this would be a good one to not have to endure based on the reaction.
We all knew that 1-3 was a realistic possibility coming into this season. The room for error is now completely gone.
Kentucky Wesleyan comes at just the right time. I'll leave it at that.
Keenan wrote:"If you don't support us through thick and thin, don't associate with us. Fair weather fans disgust me. We have a HELL of a coach" - Pat Kelly via TwitterWow. Yeah, that's not something I want to hear coming from a Liberty athlete in a public setting. If he says that privately that's one thing but publicly isn't right.
In other words, shut up *itches!
Keenan wrote:"If you don't support us through thick and thin, don't associate with us. Fair weather fans disgust me. We have a HELL of a coach" - Pat Kelly via Twitter+1
VBSF.net wrote:I just checked out the FCS Top 25 scoreboard ... JMU is ahead of W&M, New Hampshire nipped Richmond. I don't see a clear powerhouse here .... this things up for grabs .... just get in the playoffs and see what happensLOL.
AGS fan wrote:Liberty: Good talent. Bad team. If they win the Big South and get to the playoffs, they'll get their clock cleaned.Have to agree with him. Hope that doesn't get Pat too upset. He played a solid game, as did some others, but there are plenty of people who watched the game today who have made similar comments. Maybe Pat and the other players who watch FF should take that to their team mates. They can get mad, but regarding things like that or questions about disciplinary actions, fans do have some good observations. Players and coaches surely know that while they are contributing on the field, it is fans who are very instrumental in helping the program develop, mainly through their wallets.
SuperJon wrote: Our players have been reading this board for years. Some of our coaches have been too. That's why they have an "us against the world" mentality right now. They think that we're all out to get them because we have been less than rainbows and Skittles this week.Maybe this is just me, but I've seen my bosses and my own work trashed publicly with more ferocity and by more people than this place ever could produce. At the end of the day, it never affected my work or my mentality one bit. I suspect it is the same here. At least I hope so. This team looked like they were fighting their own mistakes, not fighting the world.
SuperJon wrote:fantastic postKeenan wrote:"If you don't support us through thick and thin, don't associate with us. Fair weather fans disgust me. We have a HELL of a coach" - Pat Kelly via TwitterWow. Yeah, that's not something I want to hear coming from a Liberty athlete in a public setting. If he says that privately that's one thing but publicly isn't right.
In other words, shut up *itches!
There's a culture at Liberty (and I guess just in general) that if you criticize something it makes you a fair weather fan. That's not true. If people were fair weather fans they wouldn't be paying attention.
Criticism in general at Liberty isn't accepted very well. That's why you have the chancellor and his wife saying things to people on Facebook or why the AD's wife says things on Twitter. If you say something that isn't 100% positive you're an ignorant hater who doesn't know anything because you're just a fan. We want to be big time programs but we're not willing to accept anything that isn't 100% positive.
Our players have been reading this board for years. Some of our coaches have been too. That's why they have an "us against the world" mentality right now. They think that we're all out to get them because we have been less than rainbows and Skittles this week.
I love Liberty University and I love its football team. I volunteered countless hours working for them in undergrad to show that along with traveling to as many games as I possibly could. Coach Rocco taught me more things than I could list on here and I have a ton of respect for him as a person and as a coach. Me saying that I'm not happy with our undisciplined play or our turnovers or our lack of a big win isn't saying that I don't love my school, its team, or its coach. It's me saying I have high expectations out of them because that's what they taught me that I should have and it's me saying that we're not meeting those expectations right now.
I'm not a coach. I'm just a fan. I can't tell you why certain things aren't working or why certain things are. All I can do is sit, watch the game, and then afterwards say, "Yeah, that didn't work" or "That worked really well." Saying something didn't work or that something was ugly doesn't mean I don't love my school or that I am any less of a fan than when I say something was a great play. It just means we had a bad play.
I am a fan. Let me read and post on FlameFANS.
You are a player. You don't need to read or post on here. Nothing good can come from that.
SuperJon wrote:For the record, Pat's tweet was directed to someone on Twitter saying we need Al Groh as our coach and not to people on here.Wow, Al Groh? I take that back. Pat Kelly you have my permission to cuss out whoever was dumb enough to say that.
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