Anything and everything about Liberty Flames football. Your comments on games, recruiting and the direction of the program as we move into new era.

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By BJWilliams
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I think at QB the starting job will be Brock's to lose, with Dove, Oelschlager and Landis competing for the other 2 spots
RB will probably be Zack Terrell and Rashad Jennings with Terry Williams and Greiser getting touches in certain situations
WR its gonna be Turner and Jackson for sure with Sanderson coming in to be a possession receiver. If we go 4 or 5 wide we will probably see Bolden and/or Penn in the 4 and maybe Darnell Edwards (if he can stay healthy)
TE will probably be either Stokes or Luck although Rasberry may see some time as well (especially if we do any two TE sets)

Those are the only ones I can readily comment on but Im sure some of the more informed types will have some opinions as well
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By Sly Fox
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We're just talking spring drills right now. But come this fall, if Terry Williams is healthy he will probably see time on the field. He's just too good to redshirt unless the staff feels we really don't need him right away.
By Chris Lang
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FWIW, We'll have coverage of spring drills starting in Tuesday's f'wrap ... I have several features planned for the month, along with coverage of the "game" April 30. Positional battles I'm sure will get a MUCH larger look in the fall when the freshmen hit campus.
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By Sly Fox
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Sounds great. Bring 'em on.
By Hold My Own
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I've never even seen this T Dove guy, but I got a gut feeling he's not just a pocket passer....but that's me jumping to conclusions seeing where he's from....and a little bit of wishful thinking!
By - BJ Williams -
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Hold My Own wrote:I've never even seen this T Dove guy, but I got a gut feeling he's not just a pocket passer....but that's me jumping to conclusions seeing where he's from....and a little bit of wishful thinking!
Well Mike Smith had some very mobile QBs come through Hampton High in his years there.
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By BJWilliams
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Anonymous wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:I've never even seen this T Dove guy, but I got a gut feeling he's not just a pocket passer....but that's me jumping to conclusions seeing where he's from....and a little bit of wishful thinking!
Well Mike Smith had some very mobile QBs come through Hampton High in his years there.
That one was me btw
By Chris Lang
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Tavarus was the fourth-string quarterback last year. Trust me, nothing to see here ...
By Hold My Own
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yeah, I'm sure he's pretty fast and that's about it...it seems like thats the way it goes for all mobile QB's that dont go Big DI
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By SeoulFlame
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LU adjusting to 3-4 defense


By Chris Lang
Lynchburg News & Advance
April 3, 2006



One of the first videos Danny Rocco showed Liberty's defensive players and coaches was of the New York Jets' 3-4 defense.
The reasoning was simple. The new Liberty football coach and former Jets assistant figured once they saw the 3-4 in action on the NFL stage, they'd be eager to implement the scheme at LU.

It was an easy sell.

One of Rocco's first decisions after taking over at LU was to scrap the 4-3 run by former head coach Ken Karcher and former defensive coordinator Steve Carson. It was an adjustment for all involved.

Though Rocco had run the 3-4 for years while paired with mentor Al Groh with the Jets and at Virginia, not many of his players at Liberty were familiar with it.

"It was kind of exciting to know that we were going into more of an NFL type of scheme," Liberty linebacker Brandon Duke said. A junior, Duke mostly played strong side linebacker in the 4-3 last season. "But I really didn't know what to expect."

Stevie Ray Lloyd played in a 4-3 defense at Virginia Tech and at Jefferson Forest. Liberty linebackers coach Robert Wimberly had to learn the 3-4 on the fly too.

So why was the 3-4 such a good fit for LU? Rocco said he likes the versatility of the defense itself and the flexibility of the personnel involved.

There are other reasons for making the switch.

It's easier to find talented linebackers and since linebackers are smaller and quicker, they're versatile enough to play safety and help on special teams.

That's not always the case with defensive linemen, which are harder to find at the I-AA level to begin with. The Flames struggled with injuries and had a hard time finding four down linemen who were capable starters.

"As odd as this will sound, there are a lot of similarities between managing a roster of 63 scholarships and (managing a roster) in the NFL," Rocco said.

"That was something coach Groh made a big deal about in New York. Your eighth and ninth defensive linemen, if they couldn't contribute to the team, there was no value in having them. But your eighth, ninth or 10th linebacker was starting on the punt team or covering kickoffs. They might have been on the nickel unit, doing some other jobs."

With the 3-4 installed, Liberty only has to start three down linemen - two ends and a nose tackle - and can use its depth at linebacker to its advantage.

Three of Liberty's top six tacklers last season were linebackers and all three - Manny Rojas, Duke and Nick Hursky - will return next season.

Rocco also likes the 3-4 because it's a more aggressive defense than the 4-3. The linebackers line up straight across from an opposing lineman instead of lining up on an edge and trying to go around a block.

The linebacker in the 3-4 instead tries to go through the block.

"In this defense, they're more physical in how they play blocks," Rocco said. "What we're trying to do is get down right in the middle of the blocker and knock blockers back.

"It's a different mindset. It develops toughness. And that's something we're trying to do with this defense."

Wimberly likes the 3-4 because it turns a football game into a chess match of sorts. The three down linemen will generally be responsible for pressuring the quarterback and providing the first line of run defense.

At least one of the four linebackers will also get in on the pass rush, but it might be a different linebacker each down. That adds uncertainty to an offense's attack, something Wimberly said he likes.

"They don't know who's coming, because we're bringing an outside linebacker at all times," Lloyd said. "That's going to be hard for the offense to pick up and read."

NOTES: Liberty's first spring practice was postponed Monday due to a tornado watch and severe thunderstorms. The practice was moved to today. ? Liberty added one more athlete to its winter signing class, recruiting coordinator Charlie Skalaski said. Harcourt Farquharson, a 5-foot-10, 170-pound defensive back from Homestead, Fla., signed a letter of intent and will play next fall. ? Several players have switched positions, at least for spring ball purposes, most notably Zach Terrell, LU's leading rusher from last year. Terrell is working at quarterback again. Ryan Greiser, a running back who battled injuries last season as a freshman, is working at defensive back. So is Pierre Penn, a Heritage graduate who filled in at linebacker last year.
By Chris Lang
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Another note. As was noted in the Roanoke Times, Rocco has asked for release forms, transcripts, etc. for all three of the Virginia guys. It's basic protocol. He has to have all that stuff even to initiate a conversation with the three.

That doesn't mean any sort of transfer is imminent. It just means he's gotten the paperwork in to talk to all three. There wouldn't be any news on a transfer until after the spring practice period ends.

Just my gut feeling ... but I'd be surprised if any of the three end up at LU.
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By Sly Fox
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Thanks for the report, Chris. We look forward to the insight.

The 3-4 has its own challenges and that's why only a handful of NFL teams are still running it after its heydey a few years back after the Steelers re-popularized the scheme. Here in Houston they just switched from 3-4 to the 4-3.

Coach Rocco is absolutely right about LBs being the best use of available scholies. Sometimes they grow once they get on campus and can be spun down to the DL. And RBs often make the transition to LB as well so you have more versatility.

And as far as the UVa three are concerned, we've beat that dead horse in the other thread. But you never know what can happen.
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By BJWilliams
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Coach Rocco is on 90.9 and he has some real insights into how things are going with spring practice. Im sure somebody like GMTM probably could say more about it than I can.
By krh44
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BJ
When was Rocco on the radio. I tried listening to the Flames show at 10 but not on, has it changed times?
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krh44 wrote:BJ
When was Rocco on the radio. I tried listening to the Flames show at 10 but not on, has it changed times?
Its at 10:30 now and only goes for a half hour. Rocco was on near the end
By givemethemic
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We have changed the time to 10:30 for the rest of the spring and then we will go back to the old time in the Fall 10-11AM.. I am going to try to post the mp3 of the interview in the next few days...
By krh44
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Thanks for the update. I have tried listening the last few weeks. I guess I should have asked earlier.
By Hold My Own
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givemethemic wrote:We have changed the time to 10:30 for the rest of the spring and then we will go back to the old time in the Fall 10-11AM.. I am going to try to post the mp3 of the interview in the next few days...

Ratings must be down :oops:

:lol: :lol: kidding :lol: :lol:
By Guest
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First week of practice:
Jennings looks awesome at RB.
Terrell looks good at QB, making good coverage reads. Smith has mono.
Defense ahead on Friday, but played better on Sat.
Center Godsil out Tues. with rolled ankle(returns monday), Davis moves to center from rt. gd., Mosier moves in at rt. guard and is giving Rojas all he wants. Winfrey at RT Tackle looking good, Luck at TE, Stone at lt. Gd. doing well, Weaver at lt. Tackle, replacing injured Senee.
Receivers making plays. Practice upbeat and intense. Attitudes great. C. Rocco serious after UVA DT.

I will be down on Thurs. to watch practice at 715 at Williams under the lights. Last practice until Weds.
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By Sly Fox
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Thanks for the notes. Getting info out of spring drills is always a challenge.
By A.G.
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Unless you have a connection to ESPN. Absolutely INSANE talking spring football stats and showing highlights.
It's freaking PRACTICE, folks. We're talkin' 'bout PRACTICE!
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By TallyW
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A.G. wrote:Unless you have a connection to ESPN. Absolutely INSANE talking spring football stats and showing highlights.
It's freaking PRACTICE, folks. We're talkin' 'bout PRACTICE!
The rest of us appreciate hearing about it. Besides... I didn't hear "stats" or see anyone post "highlights". We're not on this board because we're casual fans who will only watch what ESPN shows. Many of us enjoy sport period... especially our alma matre.

Thanks Guest for your thoughts on the Spring thus far!
By madmat
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One of the other threads in the football forum is bringing the excitement back to LU football. Following the team, especially with the many changes (good ones I think), even in the spring, is something that happens at every university where football is "exciting." Info to break up the light-hearted banter that fills this board through the off season, is a welcome change for those who are not in the vicinity and yet follow the team.
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By PAmedic
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great report. 2 questions: do we have a TE w/ hands? I forget how Luck was last year.

also, is Greiser moved to a DB spot, RS or staying as a RB?
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By BJWilliams
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GMTM can back me up or correct me on this one but I believe Greiser was moved to a DB or LB. We'd have a major logjam at RB if Greiser was kept there especially once fall practice got going
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