[Schfourteenteen]

So obviously hes supposed to be pretty fast and what not... where would he most likely play barring he comes here and he starts?

[bigsmooth]

now with this ECU nonsense. terry holland is trying like heck to get ECU out of C-USA, most notably in the big east. if that happened i could see liberty as a viable option for C-USA down the road, but i just do not see the big east wanting ECU.

[ECUpirate]

Not for the past ten years or so. They've got a chance at being CUSA champs this year.

Interesting, surfin through getting some info before the hoops game next week. First off ECU has never been D1aa , in fact we have been playing major college football since the early 1960's, and have had lots of success despite short memories of some. Many top 25 wins, even a top 10 finish, as well as other top 25 finishes. Believe it or not but we have the most BCS wins in the last 10 years of any non-BCS program at 14, and have averaged as high as 42k fans a game (37k this year). 50k people have seen a game in our stadium. I notice your comment earlier about us being not a real D1a, got a good laugh..

[SuperJon]

My fault, I thought you guys moved up with Marshall and the likes of them. I'm from NC, I have a lot of friends at ECU and know a lot of alum, I can't believe I screwed that up so bad.

[ECUpirate]

My fault, I thought you guys moved up with Marshall and the likes of them. I'm from NC, I have a lot of friends at ECU and know a lot of alum, I can't believe I screwed that up so bad.

It's ok we stunk it up a couple of years ago. I don't fault people for forgetting us, although I think the ship has been righted the past two years. Anyway so what are you guys thinking about the basketball game. We changed coaches and lost a lot of transfers last year and ended up stinking it up, but we have 10 new players this year and looks like things are headed in the right direction. I think we played very decent in the two games I have seen. 2-1 with wins over Morgan St and @UNCG, and an overtime loss @ Richmond. I understand you guys have a real scorer at PG.

[TIMSCAR20]

I was at the game in Richmond doing research and just enjoying college hoops. Richmond is young and started 4 freshman who were literally playing in their first collegiate game but they hit a shot a the end to send it into OT. You guys look pretty decent and will get better as I like a couple of your freshman a lot. Gabe Blair is gonna be great! We can talk more in the basketball section. Thanks for setting the record straight on your football team though. It seems to be a common mistake about ECU. Side note. Some of the best game dunks I ever witnessed, had happen to my team etc was against ECU back in my day when I had to guard Blue Edwards! He was a ridiculous athlete.

[PAmedic]

and have averaged as high as 42k fans a game (37k this year). 50k people have seen a game in our stadium.

ECU, welcome aboard and thanx for that photo:

GUYS- THIS IS WHAT THE 'BILL COULD, AND SHOULD, BE TRANSFORMED INTO

[Sly Fox]

OK, ECUpirate. First off thanks for hiring Skip. I like how things ending up in the deal for both LU & ECU.

I'm not sure if you are referring to me in the thread, but I never implied nor stated you had any I-AA connections. I just mentioned that there may be a point in the not too distant future where we might end up in the same league. As you well know, the C-USA has been a financial drain on your athletic budget. And as has been referenced, Holland is working hard to move you guys to a better league. Barring success in that endeavor, I've heard whispers of ECU possibly linking up with some other Eastern seaboard I-A schools to form a new league that wouldn't have travel concerns of the recent lackluster lineup of Conference USA. If the Pirates are going to play in a non-BCS league, they should at least be competing closer to home in their non-revenue sports. Its nothing but hearsay at this point, but its not just the wind blowing (if you get my drift). I wouldn't call the scenario likely, just possible at this point.

Realignment is looming on the horizon. Its just a matter of how things transpire in the next few years as to whether or not we might ultimately be better acquainted.

[ECUpirate]

I think Liberty has potiental. Like Farwell says, look at BYU and Notre Dame. I tend to agree.

anyway I doubt we leave CUSA unless it's for the Big East, which is tough but possible. It's not secret Holland is work hard to make it happen. Many people said we would never get into a basketball league like old CUSA with a couple of the top 10 basketball programs ever like Cincy, Lousiville and while we were there had 4-6 bids and a couple of final 4 teams. Remember USF only had a 5 years old program and got in. It's all about timing and some luck but we were considered last go around and when the league formed and I think have a chance.

Unfortunately I don't see the Big East doing anything for a while now, and as far as CUSA I don't see it breaking up anytime soon because it's the best thing going outside the BCS. The TV deal is by far the best out there, we get $1 million a team the MAC gets about $33k and we have 7 bowl tie ins and 5 or 6 guaranteed a year. I don't thind another start up conference could get better deals and lets face money is everything.

We are ok with travel thanks to Terry Holland. He made up for the travel national schedule in the conference by scheduling close regional games in the OOC with BCS teams like VT, UVA, NCSU, UNC, and W. Virginia all home and home as well as Navy. Holland put together a big time schedule. V. Tech for 9 straight years 4 home 4 away 1 Charlotte was the big one.

http://www.bonesville.net/Articles/Othe ... Future.htm

BTW how is Davis doing at Liberty. I hope he treated you better than Troth I read he struggled. Troth was a true pirate but he was caught here at a bad time. Mention Paul Troth on our board and you will split the fan base in half.

[Sly Fox]

Davis stepped right in and played a key role on our line all season. We're looking for more great things from him.

As for Paul, life in Lynchburg didn't work out the way anyone wanted. But he's a great guy and I expect him to do well in coaching.

I was covering him during his tryout for the Texans and he really impressed them with his arm. Unfortunately his body of work kept him from a getting a contractl.

[ECUpirate]

Davis stepped right in and played a key role on our line all season. We're looking for more great things from him.

As for Paul, life in Lynchburg didn't work out the way anyone wanted. But he's a great guy and I expect him to do well in coaching.

I was covering him during his tryout for the Texans and he really impressed them with his arm. Unfortunately his body of work kept him from a getting a contractl.

He always graded well in drills. You know he was an elite 11 QB coming out of high school and one of the top recruits if not the very top we ever signed and had offers to places like Miami as I recall.

Half of our fan base thinks Logan could have turned him around in another year or so in the system. I don't know but it would have been interesting. That's one thing Logan did know Quarterbacks.

ECU QB's under Logan

Jeff Blake- 10+NFL veteran
Marcus Crandell -CFL MVP, 10 year vet
Danny Gonzalez -Stint in the NFL with the Cowboys
David Garrard -Current NFL starter
Paul Troth-
James Pinkney- current QB recruited by Logan NFL prospect

[PeterParker]

Sly, in this hypothetical, what other eastern seaboard schools might be possible in the scenario you laid out...would any of those be higher level D1CS in basketball and some recent success in football, or mostly current D1BS teams?

[SuperJon]

He's talking App and JMU and people like that.

[PeterParker]

That's what I figured, some of the CAA/A10 whichever they call themselves now, like JMU, W&M, ODU (football '09), and a few others...

[Sly Fox]

In the hypothetical, it would indeed include I-AAs like Appy State, JMU and Delaware. Combine those with a few disenfranchised current I-As to make up a league that would serve dual purposes of Bowl Division status and reasonable travel costs for member schools.

ECUpirate is correct that right now they receiove a nice chunck of change from CUSA. But those contracts were built on Louisville & Cincy being in the league. The next contract will be nowhere near as attractive.

[PeterParker]

And the Bill should incorporate a look this on the outside/inside with red brick and white columns:

[ECUpirate]

ECUpirate is correct that right now they receiove a nice chunck of change from CUSA. But those contracts were built on Louisville & Cincy being in the league. The next contract will be nowhere near as attractive.

Not true.

The new CUSA signed a deal was signed in 2005 that was the exact same as the old conference with Cincy, Louisville, Marqutte, TCU, Army, Depaul, St. Louis, Charlotte etc.

C-USA lands $11.3 million deal

Conference USA announced Tuesday it has made six-year TV rights deals with ESPN and College Sports Television that will begin this fall. The conference will receive a combined $11.3 million a year, the same amount ESPN paid under an expiring contract. But ESPN's rights fee drops 68%, to $3.65 million annually, for prime picks of football and men's and women's basketball games. CSTV will show those sports, plus other events, said CSTV president Brian Bedol

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/columnis ... tzke_x.htm

That as well as more bowls and higher paying bowls since those guys left. Including this week we will have had 9 national televised games this year a bowl and championship game are still possible as well. Things aren't so bad as is percieved in this new conference, and that's why I don't see us or any of the other teams leaving unless it's for a BCS conference, and lets facte it the Big East is the only option there.