[ballcoach15]

Teams do get love because of what they done in the past. Look at Notre Dame. They "won one for the Gipper" years ago, and pollsters are still rewarding them for it, not to mention the love the NCAA gives ND.

[Randy]

For some reason unknown to me, Coastal always seems to get a lot of love from Pollsters.

Seriously? Last year when we got beat by CSU - who was ranked in the top 20 at the time - we plummeted down in both major polls by 6 spots. The very next week, when CSU got beat by UNRANKED (not even in the "others receiving votes" section) GDubb - they only dropped 4 spots. Pollsters, especially ones like Craig Haley (who IMO is the biggest FCS "journalist" troll since Dave Coulson), love to drop us in their rankings when a player of ours so much as breathes improperly.

We are admittedly riding a wave of success from last season, but not too much, since we're still ranked behind Montana in both major polls right now. But saying we "get a lot of love" from national pollsters just isn't true.

Lang pretty much hit the nail on the head, though - we might be a top 10 team, we might not be. It's a little early to tell for sure, as we've had one fairly good game against a mediocre opponent and one really bad game against a severely underrated opponent. This Saturday should be a little more of a measuring stick for where we're at - if we can't take SCSU behind the woodshed after Clemson held them to 44 yards of total offense last weekend, we may have to start wondering if we're really as good as we thought we'd be.

[bluejacket]

EIU is still ranked because they are like CCU. They made a deep run in the playoffs last year and have played 2 FBS teams this year.

EIU didn't play two FBS teams. They got blown out at Minnesota and then at home against Southern Illinois last week. They definitely aren't being ranked on this season's merits.

[bluejacket]

We are admittedly riding a wave of success from last season, but not too much, since we're still ranked behind Montana in both major polls right now. But saying we "get a lot of love" from national pollsters just isn't true.

Don't worry, Coastal will be ahead of Montana after they get blasted in Fargo.

[thepostman]

For some reason unknown to me, Coastal always seems to get a lot of love from Pollsters.

Seriously? Last year when we got beat by CSU - who was ranked in the top 20 at the time - we plummeted down in both major polls by 6 spots. The very next week, when CSU got beat by UNRANKED (not even in the "others receiving votes" section) GDubb - they only dropped 4 spots. Pollsters, especially ones like Craig Haley (who IMO is the biggest FCS "journalist" troll since Dave Coulson), love to drop us in their rankings when a player of ours so much as breathes improperly.

We are admittedly riding a wave of success from last season, but not too much, since we're still ranked behind Montana in both major polls right now. But saying we "get a lot of love" from national pollsters just isn't true.

Lang pretty much hit the nail on the head, though - we might be a top 10 team, we might not be. It's a little early to tell for sure, as we've had one fairly good game against a mediocre opponent and one really bad game against a severely underrated opponent. This Saturday should be a little more of a measuring stick for where we're at - if we can't take SCSU behind the woodshed after Clemson held them to 44 yards of total offense last weekend, we may have to start wondering if we're really as good as we thought we'd be.

He rarely knows what he is talking about. Just ignore him.

[PAmedic]

you mean BALLCOACH not RANDY right?

we like RANDY.

as much as we are allowed to like someone we hate. of course.

[thepostman]

oh yes, I mean ballcoach. Sorry for the confusion!

[Randy]

you mean BALLCOACH not RANDY right?

we like RANDY.

as much as we are allowed to like someone we hate. of course.

Yeah, I guess you guys are alright too.

Except on November 22, of course, then I hate you all.

[C4CFlame17]

EIU is still ranked because they are like CCU. They made a deep run in the playoffs last year and have played 2 FBS teams this year.

EIU didn't play two FBS teams. They got blown out at Minnesota and then at home against Southern Illinois last week. They definitely aren't being ranked on this season's merits.

Yeah you are correct. I was thinking they played NIU last week which is in the MAC.

[bluejacket]

C4CFlame17, how would you rate the OVC this season? Based on everything that I have read and seen, I think that overall they are going to take a big step backward from last season. Things are looking pretty good for the EKU Colonels this season.

[C4CFlame17]

It's still to early I think.

Jacksonville State is the early season favorite and had a big win Saturday vs Chattanooga.

EKU, IMO, has had an easy schedule. Our first true test will be next week at UT-Martin. If they win that game I see EKU being 5-0 vs EIU in Richmond, KY.

EIU has underperformed this season and it will be interesting to see how they perform this week at Illinois State. I'd say it is a must win for the Panthers if they want any shot at an at-large bid.

TSU is overrated if you ask me. In their only true game so far they lost to Alabama State on the road. I think they will struggle once OVC season starts. Their advantage is they get to play 1 less OVC game because of a ludicrous deal made with the OVC so they can play more SWAC teams.

Those are the 4 teams ranked in the OVC right now. Honestly I think only two teams will make the playoffs from the OVC. We will see how it pans out.

[bluejacket]

It's still to early I think.

Jacksonville State is the early season favorite and had a big win Saturday vs Chattanooga.

EKU, IMO, has had an easy schedule. Our first true test will be next week at UT-Martin. If they win that game I see EKU being 5-0 vs EIU in Richmond, KY.

EIU has underperformed this season and it will be interesting to see how they perform this week at Illinois State. I'd say it is a must win for the Panthers if they want any shot at an at-large bid.

TSU is overrated if you ask me. In their only true game so far they lost to Alabama State on the road. I think they will struggle once OVC season starts. Their advantage is they get to play 1 less OVC game because of a ludicrous deal made with the OVC so they can play more SWAC teams.

Those are the 4 teams ranked in the OVC right now. Honestly I think only two teams will make the playoffs from the OVC. We will see how it pans out.

I agree. You most certain know more about that conference than I do and that meshes well with what I have been seeing from the outside looking in.

[C4CFlame17]

You pick up on things when watching OVC sports for 5 years..

[Sly Fox]

As expected, we have squeezed into the Top 25 ...

1. North Dakota State Bison (146) .................. 3-0 4010 1
2. Eastern Washington Eagles (15) ................. 2-1 3865 2
3. Southeastern Louisiana Lions ..................... 2-1 3458 3
4. Montana Grizzlies ..................................... 2-1 3406 4
5. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers ................ 3-0 3225 5
6. McNeese State Cowboys ............................ 1-1 3117 6
7. New Hampshire Wildcats ........................... 1-1 3075 7
8. Villanova Wildcats .................................... 1-1 2986 8
9. Jacksonville State Gamecocks .................... 1-1 2751 9
10. South Dakota State Jackrabbits ................ 2-1 2585 11
11. Northern Iowa Panthers .......................... 0-2 2222 10
12. Bethune-Cookman Wildcats ..................... 2-0 1861 13
13. William & Mary Tribe ............................... 2-1 1712 16
14. Montana State Bobcats ............................ 2-1 1684 17
15. Chattanooga Mocs .................................. 1-2 1624 14
16. Southern Illinois Salukis .......................... 3-0 1590 20
17. Richmond Spiders ................................ 2-1 1581 18
18. Fordham Rams ....................................... 2-1 1323 19
19. Youngstown State Penguins ..................... 2-1 1129 21
20. Tennessee State Tigers ........................... 2-1 827 22
21. Furman Paladins .................................... 2-1 759 12
22. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks ................. 2-1 720 24
23. Eastern Kentucky Colonels ....................... 3-0 547 NR
24. Liberty Flames ..................................... 2-1 377 NR
25. Sam Houston State Bearkats ....................1-3 241 15

Others receiving votes: Bryant 181, Delaware 172, Illinois State 171, Towson 136, Wofford 97, Maine 93, Albany 89, Samford 81, Princeton 81, James Madison 54, Indiana State 51, Missouri State 46, Presbyterian 43, Eastern Illinois 39, Harvard 38, Charleston Southern 35, Central Arkansas 33, North Carolina A&T 33, Sacred Heart 29, Mercer 20, Lehigh 19, South Carolina State 18, Alcorn State 18, Alabama State 16, Southern Utah 14, Gardner-Webb 8, Western Illinois 8, Abilene Christian 7, Butler 5, Stephen F. Austin 4, Sacramento State 4, Western Carolina 2, Cal Poly 2, South Dakota 2, Texas Southern 1

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How is Sam Houston still ranked? When was the last time that 5 Big South teams were receiving votes?

[bluejacket]

That poll is flat out horrifying.

[Sly Fox]

1 North Dakota State Bison .......................... 2270 (88)
2 Eastern Washington Eagles ........................ 2127 (2)
3 Villanova Wildcats ..................................... 1981 (1)
4 Southeastern Louisiana Lions ...................... 1829
5 New Hampshire Wildcats ............................ 1735
6 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers .................. 1703
7 McNeese State Cowboys ............................. 1654
8 South Dakota State Jackrabbits ................... 1588
9 Montana Grizzlies ...................................... 1527
10 Northern Iowa Panthers ............................. 1429
11 Jacksonville State Gamecocks ..................... 1418
12 Southern Illinois Salukis ............................. 1312
13 William & Mary Tribe .................................. 1132
14 Richmond Spiders .................................. 1027
15 Youngstown State Penguins ........................ 828
16 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats ......................... 817
17 Montana State Bobcats ............................... 717
18 Eastern Kentucky Colonels .......................... 646
19 Fordham Rams .......................................... 558
20 Chattanooga Mocs ..................................... 535
21 Illinois State Redbirds ................................ 427
22 Furman Paladins ........................................ 280
23 Missouri State Bears .................................. 214
24 Liberty Flames ....................................... 186
25 Indiana State Sycamores ........................ 179

Most Significant Win:
Indiana State Sycamores

Most Significant Loss:
Sam Houston State Bearkats

Others Receiving Votes:
26 Sacred Heart Pioneers ................................ 172
27 Tennessee State Tigers .............................. 167
28 Bryant Bulldogs ...................................... 139
29 Princeton Tigers ........................................ 138
30 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks .................... 126
31 Central Arkansas Bears .............................. 123
32 James Madison Dukes ................................ 109
33 North Carolina A&T Aggies ........................... 78
34 Albany Great Danes .................................... 73
35T Wofford Terriers ......................................... 45
35T Charleston Southern Buccaneers ............. 45
37 Maine Black Bears ....................................... 44
38 Monmouth Hawks .................................... 27
39 Samford Bulldogs ....................................... 26
40 Harvard Crimson ........................................ 21

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[bluejacket]

Here's the coaches' poll. Even worse than TSN if that were possible....

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/polls/fcs

[Sly Fox]

I wonder if that coaches poll only has updated records but not the new rankings. There is no way that Sam is still ranked 15th after getting run out of their own crib by a D2 school this Saturday.

[bluejacket]

Yeah, you're right. It looks like they just added the week, but updated nothing else.

To be fair to SHSU, CSU-Pueblo was the #2 D-II team in the country. They would have done the exact same thing to us.

[Sly Fox]

I doubt it. I had friends at the game. They claim the team looks completely lost under KC Keeler. He is continuing his FBS transfers by the boatload philosophy that got him run out of Delaware.

[bluejacket]

I doubt it. I had friends at the game. They claim the team looks completely lost under KC Keeler. He is continuing his FBS transfers by the boatload philosophy that got him run out of Delaware.

They are definitely correct on both points about SHSU and KC Keeler.

But the top 5-10 D-II teams are no joke; they aren't Brevard. If we were unfortunate enough to play one of them, a loss would be more likely than not, especially against one like this team.
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ACU was one of them just a couple seasons ago and now look at what they are doing in the FCS. North Alabama and several others in the Big South footprint would compete right away if they moved up.

[jcmanson]

Here's the updated coaches poll - http://thesouthern.com/fcs-coaches-top- ... fd935.html

Liberty is not ranked, Bryant is #25.

1. North Dakota State (25) 3-0 649 1

2. Eastern Washington (1) 2-1 624 2

3. Montana 2-1 564 4

4. Southeastern Louisiana 2-1 552 3

5. Coastal Carolina 3-0 546 5

6. McNeese State 1-1 529 6

7. Villanova 1-1 496 7

8. Jacksonville State 1-1 460 8

9. New Hampshire 1-1 454 9

10. South Dakota State 2-1 413 10

11. Northern Iowa 0-2 380 11

12. Bethune-Cookman 2-0 321 13

13. SIU 3-0 307 14

14. Chattanooga 1-2 277 17

15. Youngstown State 2-1 269 16

16. Montana State 2-1 266 18

17. William & Mary 2-1 251 19

18. Richmond 2-1 211 21

19. Fordham 2-1 158 23

20. Tennessee State 2-1 150 22

21. Furman 2-1 118 12

22. Eastern Kentucky 3-0 114 25

23. Northern Arizona 2-1 54 NR

24. Illinois State 2-0 47 NR

T-25. Bryant 3-0 37 NR

T-25. Sam Houston State 1-3 37 15

Dropped From Rankings: Eastern Illinois, Maine

Others Receiving Votes: Missouri State 28, Liberty 24, Maine 20, Towson 17, Indiana State 13, Sacred Heart 13, Princeton 12, Alcorn State 8, Harvard 8, Samford 5, Central Arkansas 4, Charleston Southern 3, Wofford 3, Alabama State 2, James Madison 2, North Carolina A&T 2.

[bluejacket]

Who is the heck is voting for Furman, SHSU, Towson, Chattanooga, and the Ivies? There seems to be major issues in all three polls.....

[jbock13]

SHSU lost to a D2 by 26 points and they are still in the top 25. Unreal. Maybe the issue is the pollsters didn't even realize they lost? lol.

[BJWilliams]

Frankly losing to a D2 (like Sam Houston) or a weak D1 (like Furman), you should be dropped from any and every poll