[jcmanson]

I'm still skeptical of the coaching staff, but they did make the proper adjustments to win the game. That's progress.

[Bigsouthking]

I agree... Onto next week...

[chukels911]

Gillage

[bluedevilflame]

My school doesn't have football, but we do have Ruth Chris on campus...

It wouldn't surprise me won bit if LU wins the conference and then Gill-Ville takes off for greener pastures.... Now that would be comical.

You may have the trump card on the Ruth's Chris

I hope if Gill does leave for greener pastures he leaves the program in better shape then he found it.

I think it's safe to say that Turner Gill will not be a long term coach here at LU, I'm assuming his eyes are getting his reputation back after the debacle in Kansas and this is a good fit for the time being. It's important to keep in mind, this is the guy that's name was all over the Auburn job a few years back, he'd be stupid not to jump from here to a job like that if he gets offered one.

I'm glad he's here, I support him while he's here, but I won't be naive in thinking he will be here 5-10 years from now. Hopefully he will get us some wins over the next few years, gets us in the playoffs, and sees us into our FBS transition. He stays during this transition period for us, I'll be a happy camper. I think we just need to enjoy the ride while it lasts and hope he can point us in the right direction while he's here.

[SumItUp]

My school doesn't have football, but we do have Ruth Chris on campus...

It wouldn't surprise me won bit if LU wins the conference and then Gill-Ville takes off for greener pastures.... Now that would be comical.

You may have the trump card on the Ruth's Chris

I hope if Gill does leave for greener pastures he leaves the program in better shape then he found it.

I think it's safe to say that Turner Gill will not be a long term coach here at LU, I'm assuming his eyes are getting his reputation back after the debacle in Kansas and this is a good fit for the time being. It's important to keep in mind, this is the guy that's name was all over the Auburn job a few years back, he'd be stupid not to jump from here to a job like that if he gets offered one.

I'm glad he's here, I support him while he's here, but I won't be naive in thinking he will be here 5-10 years from now. Hopefully he will get us some wins over the next few years, gets us in the playoffs, and sees us into our FBS transition. He stays during this transition period for us, I'll be a happy camper. I think we just need to enjoy the ride while it lasts and hope he can point us in the right direction while he's here.

It may turn out that way, but Coach Gill may like it enough at Liberty to be thinking about spending a LONG time at Liberty. Personally, I believe he likes Liberty and is not here for a resume builder.

[bluedevilflame]

I think it's safe to say that Turner Gill will not be a long term coach here at LU, I'm assuming his eyes are getting his reputation back after the debacle in Kansas and this is a good fit for the time being. It's important to keep in mind, this is the guy that's name was all over the Auburn job a few years back, he'd be stupid not to jump from here to a job like that if he gets offered one.

I'm glad he's here, I support him while he's here, but I won't be naive in thinking he will be here 5-10 years from now. Hopefully he will get us some wins over the next few years, gets us in the playoffs, and sees us into our FBS transition. He stays during this transition period for us, I'll be a happy camper. I think we just need to enjoy the ride while it lasts and hope he can point us in the right direction while he's here.

It may turn out that way, but Coach Gill may like it enough at Liberty to be thinking about spending a LONG time at Liberty. Personally, I believe he likes Liberty and is not here for a resume builder.

You know what, I would like nothing more than for Gill to stay if he builds a successful program. He seems like a good guy and I'm curious to see what he can do once he gets his own recruits in place for his system. I'm happy that we were able to hire a coach of Gill's caliber.
Here's my thought process behind that post, I took the LU blinders off when I looked at the overall prestige of our coaching job currently. While we have aspirations of FBS and seem to be printing money lately, we aren't there yet. Our commitment is there, the money is there, and the facilities are getting there, but for right now, we are still FCS, still in a low level conference, and still have no playoff appearance/national titles.We also have a small media market with little to no national TV audience for our sports other than ESPN 3 nationally, MASN regionally. Sure you can say Gill came here because we aspire to move to FBS, but that's not guaranteed and if/when it does happen, who knows when. I will get flamed (no pun intended) for this but Gill took a big step down when he came to us, he probably could have gotten a few coordinator offers here or there in FBS, which depending on the job, could be better than an FCS head coach position but I think he wanted to remain at the head of a program, FCS or FBS. After understanding all of these current factors, to me, it is only logical to think that Gill is here to rebuild his reputation and to gain back the confidence teams had in him a few years ago so he can launch himself back in the FBS head coach hunt.
Look at his last few years at KU. KU is a hard job for anybody, but look at the records, they went from Mangino winning a BCS bowl one year, going 13-12 the next two years, down to 5-19 Gill's two seasons. His reputation that was built at Buffalo was destroyed in 2 short seasons. I'm sure at the time he was fired he had little options at the FBS level and had to look elsewhere. In steps LU, in need of a "name" head coach to move the team in the future and get our name out there for conference realignment purposes. Here's a school wanting to be big time, here's a coach that wants to get back to being big time. Win win all around for both parties.
All I'm trying to say is, Gill is the right coach at the right time for Liberty. He starts winning here, he'll get back into the coaching carousel and off he will go. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. All I hope for the Gill era here at Liberty is like I said in the other post, get us to the playoffs, win some conference titles, maybe a national title, and see us through our transition to FBS. I wish him well when he does leave and look forward to seeing what mark he leaves on our program.

[TH Spangler]

I'm still skeptical of the coaching staff, but they did make the proper adjustments to win the game. That's progress.

I like what I see. I love the way they make adjustments. In a "rebuilding season" they have kept us in every game but one. IM sure there will be some tweaks from year to year. But overall I think we have the right coaches for LU ..... I really liked Gill's closing line in his GW post game radio interview.

[roadkingjim]

I think it's safe to say that Turner Gill will not be a long term coach here at LU, I'm assuming his eyes are getting his reputation back after the debacle in Kansas and this is a good fit for the time being. It's important to keep in mind, this is the guy that's name was all over the Auburn job a few years back, he'd be stupid not to jump from here to a job like that if he gets offered one.

I'm glad he's here, I support him while he's here, but I won't be naive in thinking he will be here 5-10 years from now. Hopefully he will get us some wins over the next few years, gets us in the playoffs, and sees us into our FBS transition. He stays during this transition period for us, I'll be a happy camper. I think we just need to enjoy the ride while it lasts and hope he can point us in the right direction while he's here.

It may turn out that way, but Coach Gill may like it enough at Liberty to be thinking about spending a LONG time at Liberty. Personally, I believe he likes Liberty and is not here for a resume builder.

You know what, I would like nothing more than for Gill to stay if he builds a successful program. He seems like a good guy and I'm curious to see what he can do once he gets his own recruits in place for his system. I'm happy that we were able to hire a coach of Gill's caliber.
Here's my thought process behind that post, I took the LU blinders off when I looked at the overall prestige of our coaching job currently. While we have aspirations of FBS and seem to be printing money lately, we aren't there yet. Our commitment is there, the money is there, and the facilities are getting there, but for right now, we are still FCS, still in a low level conference, and still have no playoff appearance/national titles.We also have a small media market with little to no national TV audience for our sports other than ESPN 3 nationally, MASN regionally. Sure you can say Gill came here because we aspire to move to FBS, but that's not guaranteed and if/when it does happen, who knows when. I will get flamed (no pun intended) for this but Gill took a big step down when he came to us, he probably could have gotten a few coordinator offers here or there in FBS, which depending on the job, could be better than an FCS head coach position but I think he wanted to remain at the head of a program, FCS or FBS. After understanding all of these current factors, to me, it is only logical to think that Gill is here to rebuild his reputation and to gain back the confidence teams had in him a few years ago so he can launch himself back in the FBS head coach hunt.
Look at his last few years at KU. KU is a hard job for anybody, but look at the records, they went from Mangino winning a BCS bowl one year, going 13-12 the next two years, down to 5-19 Gill's two seasons. His reputation that was built at Buffalo was destroyed in 2 short seasons. I'm sure at the time he was fired he had little options at the FBS level and had to look elsewhere. In steps LU, in need of a "name" head coach to move the team in the future and get our name out there for conference realignment purposes. Here's a school wanting to be big time, here's a coach that wants to get back to being big time. Win win all around for both parties.
All I'm trying to say is, Gill is the right coach at the right time for Liberty. He starts winning here, he'll get back into the coaching carousel and off he will go. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am. All I hope for the Gill era here at Liberty is like I said in the other post, get us to the playoffs, win some conference titles, maybe a national title, and see us through our transition to FBS. I wish him well when he does leave and look forward to seeing what mark he leaves on our program.

While I wish the best for LU IMHO to have a HC that is with the team for only a couple/few years is a bad hire from an employer perspective; but I also know often times it is unavoidable. I get a little "frosted" when coaches do this. All is does, in reality, is harm the football program and the athletes/players. When a new HC comes in they, for some reason, have to make a statement of getting "their" recruits in to be successful. All of the 63+ scholarship players at LU are either All-Conference/All-State and many also have National rankings. If a Coach "can't" coach athletes with those type credentials regardless of what type offense/defensive schemes they use is ridiculous.

I personally believe that schools/fans are only giving 2 years for a HC to either turn a program around or maintain with milestone success. A business wouldn't hire an executive if they didn't have previous success in the position they are vying for nor give them that amount of time to prove themselves. Football I believe has become the same; too much money involved at the D1 level...

[Purple Haize]

Your business to football analogy is woefully inaccurate. Does the success or failure of a Fortune 500 company depend on a bunch of people aged 18-22? You will not see any career ending carpal tunnel syndrome injuries effect a Fortune 500 Company. You won't have a bunch of Fortune 500 employees leave in one year only to be replaced by just newly graduated hires.

You will have a bunch of accountants and sales people and administrators used to doing things one way only to have difficulty or finding it impossible to work in an environment created by a new CEO. So that's at leat close

[roadkingjim]

Your business to football analogy is woefully inaccurate. Does the success or failure of a Fortune 500 company depend on a bunch of people aged 18-22? You will not see any career ending carpal tunnel syndrome injuries effect a Fortune 500 Company. You won't have a bunch of Fortune 500 employees leave in one year only to be replaced by just newly graduated hires.

You will have a bunch of accountants and sales people and administrators used to doing things one way only to have difficulty or finding it impossible to work in an environment created by a new CEO. So that's at leat close

Agreed in concept; however I don't believe the successful measurement of a HC, or for that matter the Assistants should be given a "hall pass" because they lack or don't have any of their "hand picked" recruits installed. In other words there are posts and beliefs from folks who feels that a HC should get this hall pass until their recruits are in place over a period of several years before being measured as a successful coaching hire.

Lastly, I agree with your last paragraph; however lets assume the CEO wouldn't be a hire for said company without a proven, rock solid track record over the course of years. You have to admit that a "dice role" CEO hire is dangerous for any organization which unfortunately there are many examples of such... Unless of course your in government (LOL)

[Purple Haize]

If the coaching staff shows improvement as their recruits come its not a hall pass. If you don't see progress as the recruits come in, they are not magically going to be world beater in that coaches 4th or 5th year. It as at that time progress should reach a level where you feel confident moving forward.
But again, you can't treat aCoach like aCEO in that regard.

[From the class of 09]

LYNCHBURG, Va. (BP) -- Turner Gill has endured plenty of challenges in his life. But this current test is a real humdinger.

The 50-year-old Gill, who is still a legend on the Nebraskan plains for his exploits as a Cornhusker, is now trying to rewrite history some 1,200 miles east of Lincoln in Lynchburg, Va. As Liberty University's first-year head football coach, he has assumed the vanguard of the school's five-decade quest for national football relevancy.

"We're here to teach people about glorifying Christ and be conference champions and national champions," said Gill, whose team is off to a rocky 1-4 start as it travels to face Presbyterian (S.C.) College on Oct. 13. "The vision is clear. That's why it fit me. I'm excited about that."

http://www.bpsports.net/bpsports.asp?ID=6475

[Cider Jim]

GREAT article!

[Cider Jim]

What happened to Gillville? I drove past there this morning at about 9:00 and saw just ONE tent,
which is exactly one more than we had during the Karcher era.

[FLAMEfromBAMA]

They camp out all night, and at 8:00-8:15am Coach Gill comes with donuts and orange juice I believe. I think many students leave after that to either go set up their own tailgates (rare few) or catch some sleep after staying up until around 2:00am probably. I saw a tweet saying there were 110 there last night.

[FLAMEfromBAMA]

Saw athletics put this link up as a wrap-up for this years Gillville.

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[Cider Jim]

Didn't realize that Gillville was CO-ED.

[Purple Haize]

Didn't realize that Gillville was CO-ED.

Which explains its potential popularity.....

[SuperJon]

Wow. I couldn't make it past 25 seconds.

[PAmedic]

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[Old School]

Gosh guys....lighten up and enjoy a little fun. Not everything about sports needs to be fast and bone-crushing. Like Momma said....if you can't say something nice about something...don't say anything at all.

[Purple Haize]

Gosh guys....lighten up and enjoy a little fun. Not everything about sports needs to be fast and bone-crushing. Like Momma said....if you can't say something nice about something...don't say anything at all.

Shut up dufus!

[Old School]

Wow ..nice comeback

[adam42381]

There's a timely reply...

[Purple Haize]

Wow ..nice comeback

I know you are but what am I?