[thepostman]

This is why i'd say no... get your team under control bro!

you really are an idiot aren't you? and the thing is I agree with the thought that this falls squarely on rocco's shoulders...but you just are all over the place with your opinions that I take nothing you say seriously...

[truedrewdawg87]

I'm normally just a reader here and rarely a poster, but as a proud LU alumni it's hard for me to bite my tongue on this loss. I'm not sure who is to blame but it bothers me that as this program continues to progress each season there is an ABSOLUTELY INEXCUSABLE loss almost every year. Elite FCS teams (Appalachian, Richmond, Villanova, etc.,) don't lose games to Presbyterian, Stony Brook and Robert Morris the way Liberty has the last few years. I'm always amused when I read the talk on this board about the dreams of moving to the 1-A level when Liberty's never been to a playoff game let alone won one. I think the focus should be on putting together COMPLETE regular seasons without a loss like this and deep playoff runs before we as fans get ahead of ourselves. Again, I'm not saying Rocco is to blame. Obviously, the players are the one's who have to execute. All I know, is there's been a loss like this with Rocco as the head coach the last few seasons and it needs to stop if Liberty is ever going to be an elite FCS program.

[Stevev]

I thing that Coach Rocco has done a pretty good job so far for this program in raising the interest level as evidenced by the attendence figures at home games throughout his time here but I think that he is a tad overrated as a coach considering how soft our schedules has been the last 5 years and losses like this kind of back it up. Not to mention our state of the art facilities and the money that we throw at football so we do have the resources to compete and that is not the problem. A win or a competive loss against JMU would certainly change my opinion somewhat but I still feel that these losses are inexusable as others have stated. Can't really blame it on our conference (Big South). Not sure if that has anything to do with it or not.

[LUconn]

Alright alright alright, I'm certainly on the we're-not-as-elite-as-we-thought train, but lets not go too overboard. Dude took over a 1-10 or something like that team and one season later has won 3 straight BSC championships going 14-1 to do so. We're not a top 10 team. Sorry. But you have brain damage if you think Rocco is just some kind of hype machine that gets the students out. We just got ahead of ourselves.

[truedrewdawg87]

I never said Rocco was a hype machine. I love the guy. I love his passion for football, his passion for Liberty and the progress he's made with the program. I just know that elite programs don't lose to Presbyterian, Stony Brook and Robert Morris. I don't know who is to blame for what are inexcusable losses. I just know Liberty will never be an elite FCS program until it stops losing to teams that it shouldn't lose to. Until those losses become a thing of the past and Liberty starts making deep playoff runs and becomes an annual national championship contender, all that "when are we moving to 1-A talk," is nothing but a waste of time.

[JMUDukes]

This is why i'd say no... get your team under control bro!

Yea Champ. Why don't you sit this one out...

10/10 post

but seriously, I don't think he's going anywhere anytime soon. Not until he gets ya'll to the next level. Then we might be seeing some big names come calling.

[JMUDukes]

I never said Rocco was a hype machine. I love the guy. I love his passion for football, his passion for Liberty and the progress he's made with the program. I just know that elite programs don't lose to Presbyterian, Stony Brook and Robert Morris. I don't know who is to blame for what are inexcusable losses. I just know Liberty will never be an elite FCS program until it stops losing to teams that it shouldn't lose to. Until those losses become a thing of the past and Liberty starts making deep playoff runs and becomes an annual national championship contender, all that "when are we moving to 1-A talk," is nothing but a waste of time.

now let me straighten ya out a little bit. upsets do happen, it's college football after all. You can't expect to go undefeated in conference play every year, even in the BS. Now when a loss like this becomes a pattern, then you might be in trouble...

[WinterIsComing]

all that "when are we moving to 1-A talk," is nothing but a waste of time.

Sniff, sniff. But, but, that's exactly why I come to this board while I'm at work, to waste time talking about things that may or may not ever happen. Sniff, puh, puh, please mister, don't take that away from me...

[bigsmooth]

JMUDukes,the bigger names are already calling. they were last year. to everyone who is down on rocco after this loss need to wake up. sometimes you lose game you should not. is frnak beamer any less of a great coach after the JMU loss?? no. these coaches are dealing with 18-19 year olds. will rocco ever leave, im sure he will. it is a business, but for now i think he is happy to stay and "finish what he started".

[jcmanson]

I thought this was going to be the year we put the "stupid hose" games behind us. I was obviously wrong, and it hurts. After the BSU game we were in the position to make some serious noise this season.

[LUconn]

I never said Rocco was a hype machine. I love the guy. I love his passion for football, his passion for Liberty and the progress he's made with the program. I just know that elite programs don't lose to Presbyterian, Stony Brook and Robert Morris. I don't know who is to blame for what are inexcusable losses. I just know Liberty will never be an elite FCS program until it stops losing to teams that it shouldn't lose to. Until those losses become a thing of the past and Liberty starts making deep playoff runs and becomes an annual national championship contender, all that "when are we moving to 1-A talk," is nothing but a waste of time.

I agree with you except "when are we moving to 1-A talk" has nothing to do with how good we are.

[thepostman]

JMUDukes,the bigger names are already calling. they were last year. to everyone who is down on rocco after this loss need to wake up. sometimes you lose game you should not. is frnak beamer any less of a great coach after the JMU loss?? no. these coaches are dealing with 18-19 year olds. will rocco ever leave, im sure he will. it is a business, but for now i think he is happy to stay and "finish what he started".

please do not bring frank beamer into this..tech is king of losing big games. They don't have the nick name the chokies just for giggles, there is a lot of truth to that. Beamer, like Rocco, is a very good coach...but he has yet to do anything to probe he is a great coach yet.

I love Danny Rocco and I love how he has turned things around, I think he is learning more and more every year and will only get better, but this has become a pattern and its not something big time schools will look that fondly of if it keeps up.

[JMUDukes]

JMUDukes,the bigger names are already calling. they were last year. to everyone who is down on rocco after this loss need to wake up. sometimes you lose game you should not. is frnak beamer any less of a great coach after the JMU loss?? no. these coaches are dealing with 18-19 year olds. will rocco ever leave, im sure he will. it is a business, but for now i think he is happy to stay and "finish what he started".

please do not bring frank beamer into this..tech is king of losing big games. They don't have the nick name the chokies just for giggles, there is a lot of truth to that. Beamer, like Rocco, is a very good coach...but he has yet to do anything to probe he is a great coach yet.

I love Danny Rocco and I love how he has turned things around, I think he is learning more and more every year and will only get better, but this has become a pattern and its not something big time schools will look that fondly of if it keeps up.

amen on Beamer...most overrated coach in America

[truedrewdawg87]

I have to disagree and say that the "when are we moving to 1-A" talk has PLENTY to do with how good Liberty is RIGHT NOW. It's RIDICULOUS to talk about if Liberty will ever move to 1-A or when this move will happen when each of the past few seasons has included an INEXCUSABLE loss. I've never figured out why fans of this program talk about a move to the next level from time to time when Liberty continues to lose to teams like Robert Morris, has never been to the playoffs and has never won a playoff game. I think all that talk about moving to the next level should stop until Liberty stops having inexcusable losses regardless of who is at fault, actually makes the playoffs and makes deep playoff runs on an consistent basis. Even when those things happen a move to 1-A is a dream some not all Liberty fans have, that may or may not even happen.

[thepostman]

I have to disagree and say that the "when are we moving to 1-A" talk has PLENTY to do with how good Liberty is RIGHT NOW. It's RIDICULOUS to talk about if Liberty will ever move to 1-A or when this move will happen when each of the past few seasons has included an INEXCUSABLE loss. I've never figured out why fans of this program talk about a move to the next level from time to time when Liberty continues to lose to teams like Robert Morris, has never been to the playoffs and has never won a playoff game. I think all that talk about moving to the next level should stop until Liberty stops having inexcusable losses regardless of who is at fault, actually makes the playoffs and makes deep playoff runs on an consistent basis. Even when those things happen a move to 1-A is a dream some not all Liberty fans have, that may or may not even happen.

I don't completely disagree with your thoughts here, but success in FCS doesn't mean we'll be any more ready to move up. Look at USF, or even to a lesser extent, UCF..both schools weren't FCS powerhouses but have done fine in fbs...

I would like us to just be consistent..but I also don't think we played much worse yesterday then we did in our first 2 games. The difference was Robert Morris wanted it more then we did, and that is what I find inexcusable.

[kuntryboimike]

i personally like playoffs and brackets more than (hey you're team was picked to be in a bowl game). yes FBS is more national recognition blah blah blah. but in the FCS if you're in a tournament it's usually because you earned it no questions asked

[Sly Fox]

I don't even want to be involved in this discussion regarding Coach Rocco but I can't ignore the move up sidebar.

Our decisions to move up have absolutely nothing to do with what is happening on the field. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. What happens today under FCS circumstances will have little impact on our move up. It is apples & oranges. If we step up, we will be recruiting on a higher plane. We'll have significantly more scholarships. If we were going FBS with current roster I might have some small concerns. But frankly we could compete at low level FBS level right now. Just imagine what we could do with higher profile nationally.

Now back to my previously schedule ignoring of this topic.

[Rooster Cogburn]

all I have to say is an LU without Rocco would be an irrelivant mess. I want him here long term. Let downs happen and they stink out loud, but they happen. so get over it and move on. Unless you want Karcher back.

[Hold My Own]

all I have to say is an LU without Rocco would be an irrelivant mess.

Danny Rocco does not define Liberty University Football just as Liberty University Football does not define Danny Rocco.

[SuperJon]

all I have to say is an LU without Rocco would be an irrelivant mess.

Absolutely stupid comment. We are bigger than one person. I love Danny Rocco and have learned more than I even know from being around him for 3.5 years, but even he would tell you that Liberty Football is bigger than him.

[JMUDukes]

all I have to say is an LU without Rocco would be an irrelivant mess.

Danny Rocco does not define Liberty University Football just as Liberty University Football does not define Danny Rocco.

exactly. if we lost Mickey in the offseason I'd be devastated, but I'd have confidence that we'd find somebody to pick up where we left off. It's about establishing a TRADITION and a REPUTATION, not just for the coach, but for the school.

[jenkins]

see Uconn as a prime example of a team that wasn't dominate at the level below and stepped up to make huge strides.

[ToTheLeft]

see Uconn as a prime example of a team that wasn't dominate at the level below and stepped up to make huge strides.

Exactly, and see Marshall as the opposite, a team that did really well at I-AA and stepped up and isn't doing anything!

It's about a constant commitment to facilities, coaching staff, recruiting, and building a program kids want to come to, stay at, and win with.

[Rooster Cogburn]

all I have to say is an LU without Rocco would be an irrelivant mess.

Absolutely stupid comment. We are bigger than one person. I love Danny Rocco and have learned more than I even know from being around him for 3.5 years, but even he would tell you that Liberty Football is bigger than him.

You missed the comment. read AND think before responding. I have no doubt we'd find another great Coach to continue the growth as long as the administration and AD continue. However, Dann Rocco and WINS are the reason we are where we are, chomping at the playoffs, FOC, Tower, recruits like we've never seen. This IS a great team that needs some time to mature. Without Roccom we most likely would not have the meterioc rise we've had over the last 5 years.

[SuperJon]

Danny Rocco is not the reason for the FOC. That was already in the ground before Karcher was ever fired. I love Coach Rocco and hope he stays here until he retires, but he is replaceable. He built this program to where it is now but one of the biggest compliments you can give Rocco is that he's built this program to where he can be replaced. He has built it to where we now have a reputation and a little bit of tradition so we're a much, much better looking program than five years ago. Ultimately, everyone is replaceable.