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By From the class of 09
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ToTheLeft wrote:
From the class of 09 wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote: "Let's play VT/Duke/UVA/etc... because we could beat them"
Just to be clear we could beat Duke. I don't think that is crazy to say at all. They are the annual bottom dweller in the horrible ACC.
Just like we could beat SBU, Presby, RMU... I could go on if you'd like?
No like we beat Ball State.
By From the class of 09
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HarrisburgFlame wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:
Schfourteenteen wrote:...while I was in a (CHOKING) relationship...
You dated Frank Beamer? Isn't he too old for you?

Must have been Mama Cass then.
Wow the Beamer Bashing never leaves this place :)

Like I used to tell people when we "choked" - at least we were good enough to be considered to be in position to "choke". Some teams are just flat out bad so when they lose - it's never considered a "choke" because everyone knows they stink.

The "choke" thing with Beamer - I don't get it. 6 conference titles in the last 15 years - I'd love to have my head coach 'choke" like that. 6 straight 10 win seasons - there are about 115 D-I schools that wish they could "choke" at that level. :>) There have been some bad losses - but also some good wins. Quite a few wins when Tech wasn't favored - is that a "reverse choke"?

Beamer needs to "choke" away his offensive coordinator - but if he "chokes" his way to another 10 win season and "chokes" to another ACC title I bet most Tech fans would take that. I would probably "choke" myself laughing - especially since the ACC blue bloods predicted Tech could never compete in the ACC.
ACC hahahahahaah
By SuperJon
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ToTheLeft wrote:
From the class of 09 wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote: "Let's play VT/Duke/UVA/etc... because we could beat them"
Just to be clear we could beat Duke. I don't think that is crazy to say at all. They are the annual bottom dweller in the horrible ACC.
Just like we could beat SBU, Presby, RMU... I could go on if you'd like?
No one said we should beat Duke, just that it's not extremely unlikely and that it wouldn't be a miracle to win. I don't think there's a single FCS team in the country that I would be shocked if we beat. I feel the same about the bottom 1/3 of FBS.

Could does not equal should.
By JMUDukes
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From the class of 09 wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote: "Let's play VT/Duke/UVA/etc... because we could beat them"
Just to be clear we could beat Duke. I don't think that is crazy to say at all. They are the annual bottom dweller in the horrible ACC.
I hate to be a broken record, but I said the same thing to myself riding in a bus to Durham 2 years ago... :|
By JMUDukes
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HarrisburgFlame wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:
Schfourteenteen wrote:...while I was in a (CHOKING) relationship...
You dated Frank Beamer? Isn't he too old for you?

Must have been Mama Cass then.
Wow the Beamer Bashing never leaves this place :)

Like I used to tell people when we "choked" - at least we were good enough to be considered to be in position to "choke". Some teams are just flat out bad so when they lose - it's never considered a "choke" because everyone knows they stink.

The "choke" thing with Beamer - I don't get it. 6 conference titles in the last 15 years - I'd love to have my head coach 'choke" like that. 6 straight 10 win seasons - there are about 115 D-I schools that wish they could "choke" at that level. :>) There have been some bad losses - but also some good wins. Quite a few wins when Tech wasn't favored - is that a "reverse choke"?

Beamer needs to "choke" away his offensive coordinator - but if he "chokes" his way to another 10 win season and "chokes" to another ACC title I bet most Tech fans would take that. I would probably "choke" myself laughing - especially since the ACC blue bloods predicted Tech could never compete in the ACC.
oh boy we have a real live Choakie in the house! how's that empty National Championship case goin' for ya? At least you still have BASS FISHING!
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By Rooster Cogburn
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Dude, how did the JMU fans turn the FF regulars on eachother? I walk away for an hour or 22 and come back to this mess.

We all look at things different, that is what makes the word interesting.

Unfortunately on this board more than any other FAN board, people are often berated for being FANS. We have confidence in our team, we are mad when our team loses, we celebrate when our team wins, we get emotional on either side.

Some people are better fans than others and they scold the rest of us for being HOMERS. OH well. I love everyone.
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By HarrisburgFlame
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Just to be clear we could beat Duke. I don't think that is crazy to say at all. They are the annual bottom dweller in the horrible ACC.[/quote]

Just like we could beat SBU, Presby, RMU... I could go on if you'd like?[/quote]

No like we beat Ball State.[/quote]

Beating Duke would be tougher than you think. They won 4 games two years ago - won 5 last year. Cutcliffe has done a good job recruiting and they are getting better players - they are better than they were 3 years ago. I'm not saying it's impossible to beat Duke - but I would consider Duke a bigger win than Ball State (no offense to the classy BSU people that posted here) if we ever beat them.
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By ToTheLeft
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jcmanson wrote:
:lol: me and Beej are tight though

I'll be at the party, not sure if you will though
I don't even see how you can compare my post to BJ's "R and A" post in the first place. But whatever. There are much better communites than FlameFans to discuss football, because the attitude here is always unreasonable. I just come here because there's usually inside information that I couldn't get from just following Lang on Twitter, and then I can't stay away from the discussion because there's a huge need for balance around here. Heaven forbid someone say something other than "The sky is the limit" or "the sky is falling".
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By jcmanson
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Rooster Cogburn wrote:Dude, how did the JMU fans turn the FF regulars on eachother? I walk away for an hour or 22 and come back to this mess.

We all look at things different, that is what makes the word interesting.

Unfortunately on this board more than any other FAN board, people are often berated for being FANS. We have confidence in our team, we are mad when our team loses, we celebrate when our team wins, we get emotional on either side.

Some people are better fans than others and they scold the rest of us for being HOMERS. OH well. I love everyone.
:rofl
By JMUDukes
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TDDance234 wrote:So, pretty big game against JMU this weekend...
haven't we talked about that enough? lol
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By HarrisburgFlame
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oh boy we have a real live Choakie in the house! how's that empty National Championship case goin' for ya? At least you still have BASS FISHING![/quote]

Oh boy we have a real live clown in the house. My post wasn't directed to you. Call me when you make and win a bowl game.
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By ToTheLeft
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HarrisburgFlame wrote: Beating Duke would be tougher than you think. They won 4 games two years ago - won 5 last year. Cutcliffe has done a good job recruiting and they are getting better players - they are better than they were 3 years ago. I'm not saying it's impossible to beat Duke - but I would consider Duke a bigger win than Ball State (no offense to the classy BSU people that posted here) if we ever beat them.
Exactly. Just because it's a program we laugh at, any ACC team is worlds ahead of the MAC. G-W's win over Akron should prove this 100 fold. The ACC is a different monster, as is the SEC or the Big 12/10 Pac10/12. And I'd like to see us regularly beat teams we're supposed to beat before we start setting up BCS games because we "should be able to win them". In fact, I'd prefer an all FCS non-conf. and see us win them before I would like to see a paycheck against an ACC school.
By JMUDukes
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HarrisburgFlame wrote:Just to be clear we could beat Duke. I don't think that is crazy to say at all. They are the annual bottom dweller in the horrible ACC.
Just like we could beat SBU, Presby, RMU... I could go on if you'd like?[/quote]

No like we beat Ball State.[/quote]

Beating Duke would be tougher than you think. They won 4 games two years ago - won 5 last year. Cutcliffe has done a good job recruiting and they are getting better players - they are better than they were 3 years ago. I'm not saying it's impossible to beat Duke - but I would consider Duke a bigger win than Ball State (no offense to the classy BSU people that posted here) if we ever beat them.[/quote]

exactly. Duke is still pretty bad, but look at when Richmond played them. They barely got by, and those Richmond players happen to have a nice looking ring on their fingers.
By JMUDukes
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Rooster Cogburn wrote:OH and by the way if I'm not mistaken, we have beat JMU before and JMU had never beaten VT before.
don't know about our previous history with LU other than 2003 but we have never beaten Tech before.
By JMUDukes
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HarrisburgFlame wrote:oh boy we have a real live Choakie in the house! how's that empty National Championship case goin' for ya? At least you still have BASS FISHING!
Oh boy we have a real live clown in the house. My post wasn't directed to you. Call me when you make and win a bowl game.[/quote]

Growing up a UVA fan that was easier said than done, but a certain man who now coaches at Georgia Tech was to blame for that
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By ToTheLeft
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Rooster Cogburn wrote:Dude, how did the JMU fans turn the FF regulars on eachother? I walk away for an hour or 22 and come back to this mess.

We all look at things different, that is what makes the word interesting.

Unfortunately on this board more than any other FAN board, people are often berated for being FANS. We have confidence in our team, we are mad when our team loses, we celebrate when our team wins, we get emotional on either side.

Some people are better fans than others and they scold the rest of us for being HOMERS. OH well. I love everyone.
No, people just get their panties in a bunch when someone speaks a word other than "You're right, we will beat JMu on our way to 11-0 and a national title. Hurrah, LU!"

If you don't want discussion, don't go on a message board. Tweet 'til the cows come home that you think Rocco is the 8th wonder of the world and block those who oppose you. But when big bad mean ToTheLeft comes along and thinks you're over the top, you can ignore me, or you can defend yourself, but playing the "I just want to be a fan" card is bogus. If you think I'm not a fan of LU, that's the most wrong you've ever been on this board.
By Dukie95
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We lost to Duke a couple years ago...the same season we went undefeated in FCS play and only lost in the Semis to Montana.

Richmond had beaten them the year before so I was salivating at the mouth..but then they hired an all new coaching staff and we were their first game.
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By ToTheLeft
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Schfourteenteen wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:If you think I'm not a fan of LU, YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN ME BREAK A RADFORD BLEACHER.
FIFY
Speaking of over the top, I've been there. ;-) This is proof.

I did it twice, btw.
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By Rooster Cogburn
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ToTheLeft wrote:
Rooster Cogburn wrote:Dude, how did the JMU fans turn the FF regulars on eachother? I walk away for an hour or 22 and come back to this mess.

We all look at things different, that is what makes the word interesting.

Unfortunately on this board more than any other FAN board, people are often berated for being FANS. We have confidence in our team, we are mad when our team loses, we celebrate when our team wins, we get emotional on either side.

Some people are better fans than others and they scold the rest of us for being HOMERS. OH well. I love everyone.
No, people just get their panties in a bunch when someone speaks a word other than "You're right, we will beat JMu on our way to 11-0 and a national title. Hurrah, LU!"

If you don't want discussion, don't go on a message board. Tweet 'til the cows come home that you think Rocco is the 8th wonder of the world and block those who oppose you. But when big bad mean ToTheLeft comes along and thinks you're over the top, you can ignore me, or you can defend yourself, but playing the "I just want to be a fan" card is bogus. If you think I'm not a fan of LU, that's the most wrong you've ever been on this board.
OH you are a fan alright, but a fan who has never once been wrong. So what if I predict and win and you predict a loss. Who cares. It's our opinion. And for the record, I have disagreed with Rocco at times as well. I just think I have every right to believe this team hit a bump in the road last week and they will be just fine.

Maybe you should start a 2nd option LU fan board and ban homers. :shock: :lol:
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By jcmanson
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I could care less if some people don't drink the kool-aid as much as others. Every fan base is like that, but saying
ToTheLeft wrote:LU fans aren't good at this whole "dealing with opponents who actually have fans and a coach who talk" thing...
that is slapping "your" fan base in the face. Not just one or two of them. But the entire fan base. You don't have to be a Homer, but you don't have to treat everyone else like they're stupid for their opinions.
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By ToTheLeft
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Rooster Cogburn wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:
Rooster Cogburn wrote:Dude, how did the JMU fans turn the FF regulars on eachother? I walk away for an hour or 22 and come back to this mess.

We all look at things different, that is what makes the word interesting.

Unfortunately on this board more than any other FAN board, people are often berated for being FANS. We have confidence in our team, we are mad when our team loses, we celebrate when our team wins, we get emotional on either side.

Some people are better fans than others and they scold the rest of us for being HOMERS. OH well. I love everyone.
No, people just get their panties in a bunch when someone speaks a word other than "You're right, we will beat JMu on our way to 11-0 and a national title. Hurrah, LU!"

If you don't want discussion, don't go on a message board. Tweet 'til the cows come home that you think Rocco is the 8th wonder of the world and block those who oppose you. But when big bad mean ToTheLeft comes along and thinks you're over the top, you can ignore me, or you can defend yourself, but playing the "I just want to be a fan" card is bogus. If you think I'm not a fan of LU, that's the most wrong you've ever been on this board.
OH you are a fan alright, but a fan who has never once been wrong. So what if I predict and win and you predict a loss. Who cares. It's our opinion. And for the record, I have disagreed with Rocco at times as well. I just think I have every right to believe this team hit a bump in the road last week and they will be just fine.

Maybe you should start a 2nd option LU fan board and ban homers. :shock: :lol:
I never said homers don't belong here. Just pointing out that we're not handling having JMU fans around and losing to RMU very well.

And I've admitted to being wrong several times. Not sure if you remember the Noah Greenbaum incident...
By From the class of 09
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JMUDukes wrote:
HarrisburgFlame wrote:Just to be clear we could beat Duke. I don't think that is crazy to say at all. They are the annual bottom dweller in the horrible ACC.
Just like we could beat SBU, Presby, RMU... I could go on if you'd like?
No like we beat Ball State.[/quote]

Beating Duke would be tougher than you think. They won 4 games two years ago - won 5 last year. Cutcliffe has done a good job recruiting and they are getting better players - they are better than they were 3 years ago. I'm not saying it's impossible to beat Duke - but I would consider Duke a bigger win than Ball State (no offense to the classy BSU people that posted here) if we ever beat them.[/quote]

exactly. Duke is still pretty bad, but look at when Richmond played them. They barely got by, and those Richmond players happen to have a nice looking ring on their fingers.[/quote]

Didn't Richmond beat them twice like 3 or 4 years apart? Pretty sure it wasn't the same players...
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