[rueful]

from Ursus -

I'll call off the dogs just enough to keep you between 10-20 votes if you go for teams not named:

Towson
UNI
NAU
EWU
Wagner

Just a tip to stay in this thing cuz I ain't controlling as much as you might think. If you guys attack UM, UD, or App...BEFORE your eliminated (while you still have something to lose in other words) then it's gonna be real risky for ya no matter what I try and do to stop it.

If that's workable then I think I can help with getting you up at least to a top 15 finish.

Once you are out with a decent finish then you guys are gonna be a handful.

If this is workable then I'll retract my position that you are out before even making the top 20.

If you get your boys squared away and you work together then you whould easily be able to focus on one team at a time and make your finish higher. I been saying that exact thing on the thread to you guys for at least 40 pgs. now.

There are gonna be votes against ya to keep you around 20 until you eliminate enough to get in the top 15...and then who knows? Anything could happen.

Let me know if this works cuz I ain't pulling em' off until I hear from ya and you guys will be out of the game by morning at this rate.

[rueful]

I would also add to those teams the NEC, since when we target them we get the target on us. Lets finish up western carolina, who has like 5 more votes, and then worry about one of the larger ones, like sac st., that no on else is going to harp on us for. Im waiting for a response from Ursus as to what team they want gone, other than liberty. Im trying to make out a deal with Ursus to go beyond whats above, but for now, just finish off western carolina

[rueful]

alright, like FFG, i think, said, we need some organization and to work together. Western Carolina has 3 votes left. I say we worry next about one of the schools with no following, on the board, but alot of votes. Sac St., Missouri St., Murray St., one of those 3. Lets hear some other opinions about those 3 and choose one and then go for it. Most of the big dogs are laying off of us for a while, so this is basically our last chance to get organized.

[rueful]

and at the same time, the guys i have been talking to are saying we shouldnt expect us to go too much higher than 20 votes at a time, but if we start getting too low they will help keep us in the game until we are at least in the top 15, assuming we dont do something to tick off another major fan base.

[Sly Fox]

For what it is worth, the primary Sac State fan on CS.com is a Liberty DL student who regularly defends us to the board. So given a choice, I'd suggest choosing someone else.

[jcmanson]

F* Ursus. We don't owe anyone anything. I'll vote against whoever I want. I'm tired of playing their game. We're screwed regardless. No way we win the game. Whenever they want us out, we're out. Who cares if we are #22 or #12.

We are the champions of this game because the whole game has been dominated by LU talk. Yeah it's a pointless game, but all those posters will pay an extra ear to our team this year because of all the ruckus we caused. And our football team won't let us down. They don't have to deal with politics any more as we get the auto, and I'd love to play App, or Montana, or Delaware in the playoffs. Can you imagine the outcry they'd have on the board if we beat one of them?! The board would crash. They'd ban every LU poster.

[Keenan]

Ok folks. It was a good run, but hear me out. When we do get knocked out, we cannot vote for the friendlies (i.e. Gardner Webb,W&M, Northern Arizona, Butler,etc.) because once we do then everyone will start voting against them. I suggest we start voting for teams that have been against us and then Ursus will make sure they go down. Let's try it for a couple days and if that doesn't happen we can then start going after those teams.

[Keenan]

1st 3 candidates:

1.Towson
2.Eastern Washington
3.Georgia Southern

[01LUGrad]

F* Ursus. We don't owe anyone anything. I'll vote against whoever I want. I'm tired of playing their game. We're screwed regardless. No way we win the game. Whenever they want us out, we're out. Who cares if we are #22 or #12.

We are the champions of this game because the whole game has been dominated by LU talk. Yeah it's a pointless game, but all those posters will pay an extra ear to our team this year because of all the ruckus we caused. And our football team won't let us down. They don't have to deal with politics any more as we get the auto, and I'd love to play App, or Montana, or Delaware in the playoffs. Can you imagine the outcry they'd have on the board if we beat one of them?! The board would crash. They'd ban every LU poster.

I found that it is actually quite moving if you play "Fan the Flames" while reading this post out loud.

[rueful]

For what it is worth, the primary Sac State fan on CS.com is a Liberty DL student who regularly defends us to the board. So given a choice, I'd suggest choosing someone else.

yeah this is true, ive been the main one voting for sac st. but I know they havent voted against us. Realistically, well be gone in the next few days. I agree about not voting against Gwebb and junk. I guess our decision is what do we want to do, get eliminated now or take out another school before we get eliminated.

My vote is for one of the states i mentioned earlier (murray, missouri, northwestern) or even breaking our truce with duquesne, since there really is only one or two fans for them, I just dont know if it will get the bullseye back on us

[ATrain]

I say once we're gone, we start voting for Montana and against Delaware and Appy

[From the class of 09]

I say once we're gone, we start voting for Montana and against Delaware and Appy

I'm all for voting off the big three. Maybe once we start voting against one of them the others will vote against them also. However I would rather try to prop up some random team than vote for Montana. Lets start with voting against Delaware... and prop up either W&M or G-Web

[jcmanson]

Those of you that want to vote for us today better get over there and do it. We're down to 15 points.

[jcmanson]

down to 10

[rueful]

id say were definitely gone by the time most of us are able to vote again. Oh well. It will be interesting to see if whoever we team up with is who gets targeted next

[ATrain]

I say once we're gone, we start voting for Montana and against Delaware and Appy

I'm all for voting off the big three. Maybe once we start voting against one of them the others will vote against them also. However I would rather try to prop up some random team than vote for Montana. Lets start with voting against Delaware... and prop up either W&M or G-Web

Won't do any good b/c then they'll come after W&M and G-Dub. I say we try and start getting the Big 3 fighting against each other before we start trying to help the smaller guys.

[rueful]

I say once we're gone, we start voting for Montana and against Delaware and Appy

I'm all for voting off the big three. Maybe once we start voting against one of them the others will vote against them also. However I would rather try to prop up some random team than vote for Montana. Lets start with voting against Delaware... and prop up either W&M or G-Web

Won't do any good b/c then they'll come after W&M and G-Dub. I say we try and start getting the Big 3 fighting against each other before we start trying to help the smaller guys.

agreed. Its not like a deleware fan will vote for app, or an app fan vote for montana, lets just start chipping away at them. The question is, which is the lesser evil that we should go for? Do we go montana + and deleware or app -? or what? Personally, I like Montana a whole heck of a lot better than the others, but thats just my .02.

Though Id also like to see wagner and central conn taken out fairly quick as well.

[jcmanson]

+ Montana
- Delaware

That's our vote for the next couple of days.

Deal?

[From the class of 09]

+ Montana
- Delaware

That's our vote for the next couple of days.

Deal?

Boooooo we can't be jumping on that band wagon...if Montanta is smart and they see us jump on Deleware they will vote with us along with appystate. If we through our weight behind Montana they will win easily, but i would rather see the 3 bigs take each other out. They won't care about some little school we support cuz it isn't LU.

[jcmanson]

I disagree. I think if we jump on G-W's back starting tomorrow they will start knocking them out. But if we knock out one of the big 3, then GW will continue to fly under the radar and can really make a run at this thing.

If we don't all agree on knocking one of the big 3 out by tomorrow, then I'm just going to be voting +GW - one of the big 3

[From the class of 09]

I disagree. I think if we jump on G-W's back starting tomorrow they will start knocking them out. But if we knock out one of the big 3, then GW will continue to fly under the radar and can really make a run at this thing.

If we don't all agree on knocking one of the big 3 out by tomorrow, then I'm just going to be voting +GW - one of the big 3

At least lets all agree to put the - on delaware.

[ATrain]

I agree, - on Delaware, but we could split where we put the + on with the big 3. Does anyone really have anything against App State other than they followed Monty's and Del's lead to vote against us?

[SumItUp]

I say vote + where you want to vote as long as Delaware goes down.

[rogers3]

I have to agree on - Delaware! They've nary an amicable thing to say towards our team or our fans.

[From the class of 09]

but fyi if you were holding out your vote for LU for the last min this is your chance