Anything and everything about Liberty Flames football. Your comments on games, recruiting and the direction of the program as we move into new era.

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By From the class of 09
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thepostman wrote: The sad thing is I know for a fact people read this board and read the negative things said about the broadcast team and instead of trying to get better they just want to find out who would have the "nerve" to say something negative about the announce team.
Yeah they do have a pretty good team of detectives over on the mountain. They figured out my identify once upon a time. It's just funny some of the things that stir the mountain up :lol:
By thepostman
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People on this board know who I am anyways, so its not some kind of big secret. I just find it funny
By From the class of 09
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thepostman wrote:People on this board know who I am anyways, so its not some kind of big secret. I just find it funny
Agree, When VPs get pulled into meetings about random comments on message boards maybe it's time to dial it down a notch :lol:
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By Purple Haize
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I've been confused with someone else who used to post here. Study
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By TH Spangler
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jcmanson wrote:In 2009, at home, 19-14. WCU was 2-9 that year.
Study Nothing but facts JC ... you go :!: I like setting beside this guy ... who needs a game program, JC got all the #'s :!:
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By EagleOne
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thepostman wrote:The play by play guy isn't bad at all, but Ray Jones is highly annoying. I am sure he is a great guy, but color commentary is just not his thing.

The sad thing is I know for a fact people read this board and read the negative things said about the broadcast team and instead of trying to get better they just want to find out who would have the "nerve" to say something negative about the announce team.

It happens, and its just sad to me...if you are going to work at a DI school in athletics expect a lot of passion. Its the way it is....
Passion is good. But some complain apparently because that's what they do. There's been people harping on replacing Rocco every year even though we're one win away from the playoffs and have at least been tied for first each of the last 4 years.

And there are some who take a shot at Jeff Barber every chance they get, even though we have quality coaches pretty much across the board and have made, or are making, major improvements to just about every athletic facility on campus.

And there are some who are going to complain about the announcers, both TV and radio, even though they're probably as good or better than any at this level and much better than I've heard when the Big South broadcasts there own games.
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By Sly Fox
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Guys, let's not let this get any more personal than it already has become. Isn't it time to move on?
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By Purple Haize
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Sly Fox wrote:Guys, let's not let this get any more personal than it already has become. Isn't it time to move on?
I take it personally that you are taking it personally! :D
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By jbock13
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I'm offended that anyone would be offended.
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By BJWilliams
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And you two are being a couple unfunny tools who should have their keyboard disconnected. Sly is tryin to redirect the conversation and you guys decide to let the world in on your raging childish stupidity.
By thesportscritic
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BJWilliams wrote:And you two are being a couple unfunny tools who should have their keyboard disconnected. Sly is tryin to redirect the conversation and you guys decide to let the world in on your raging childish stupidity.
you've got to be kidding me seriously?! they were playing around with Sly's statement... there was humor in what Haize and Jbock said lol
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By jbock13
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Yeah, pardon Haize and I, but we actually like to inject some humor into things.

Like when you all ganged up on me on the PSU thread earlier. Did I get offended and whine? Nope. I took it like a man and moved on, because the last thing I care about is if people I don't even know hate me.

Sorry Beej, I still like you but you but that rant was caused by you my friend.
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By Purple Haize
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BJWilliams wrote:And you two are being a couple unfunny tools who should have their keyboard disconnected. Sly is tryin to redirect the conversation and you guys decide to let the world in on your raging childish stupidity.
Now who is getting personal? There ia a pot and kettle analogy there somewhere...and by pot I mean the kind you cook in not use for weight lost

SMOOTH - lighten up Francis :D
By FrontRow
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Seems this group loves to talk about the announcers! I bet the TV and radio people have to be thrilled that everyone is watching and listening...and care! It really is awesome that most of the games are on regional/national TV - great for the growing nation-wide alumni base and seems like a great way to connect the tens of thousands of online students to LU - sense of community - common bond, etc.

As for how good or great our announcers are on radio and TV, it probably depends upon your perspective. Someone on here said they "point out the obvious." Well, I would think the people on here represent a small minority of the total LU fan base -- maybe .02%? While most of you probably read every post on here, research all the opponents, watch every Liberty youtube video, listen to the weekly call-in show, etc and know as much as the coaches --- the other 99.98% of fans do not...most know very little about the team, etc. And, there are even people who love Liberty who don't even understand the game of football. I know that is horrifying to this group! And certainly, most people sitting at home surfing sports on a Saturday afternoon do not even know Liberty.

So, it seems to me the TV announcers are doing a solid job balancing and playing to the audience --- bringing in more fans, helping create a loyalty with the fans who have not become FlameFans' members yet. From what I have seen/heard (3 partial TV games this year), they do a great job making the game exciting on TV, interesting info, etc. They seem to put the focus on the game and the players, not themselves - which is pretty impressive these days (I watch a lot of NFL!)

Side note - It seems the purpose of the TV exposure is different from local/state radio exposure too. Radio is more local and probably reaches the die hard fans. TV is more regional/national - two very different goals and approaches. Again, both the FlameFans and the novice fans can enjoy the TV game, but it seems the announcers have to play to the larger audience. I think that is the nature of TV, right? Radio is more for the guy sitting in the stands or tailgating or driving around Lynchburg while the girlfriend shops at the mall, etc. My point is that you might not be able to judge the radio and tv people in the same way - not sure.

Another thought: I understand the TV announcers are not full-time employees. I heard Jones was a high school teacher/coach for example. I think it would be fair to compare them to the top announcers in college sports if they were full-time, like the others. I guess the radio people are full-time, but not sure. It just seems to me that the more time you have to prepare for anything, the better you will be. I could be wrong.

Final thought (yes, there is a reason I seldom post! haha): What about FlameFans starting Annual Awards?...Best announcer for each sport, or most improved, or best one liner, or best investigative reporter, etc....That might be a fun way to turn what is being perceived as attacks and complaints, into something fun and special -- maybe the announcers would even want to try and win an award. You could do nice certificates or something. I don't know. (I think you can use survey monkey or similar to send a voter form to FlameFans' member email accounts to get your voting done without everyone knowing how you vote). Just an idea. May be silly. (you could do best LU coach or Sports Administrator, etc...Maybe vote on the best game or the best play of the season) -- wide open.

I hope something here made sense. All I really know is:

Go Flames! Beat Stony Brook!
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By jbock13
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flamefans does do annual awards. We usually have "best of's" towards December of every year.
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By Purple Haize
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I thought I just saw what a post from Charlie Browns teacher would look like.
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By rueful
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Purple Haize wrote:I thought I just saw what a post from Charlie Browns teacher would look like.
haha.

I finally got around to watching the presby game on DVR the other day, and holy smokes the opening animations were straight out of the 90's. Front Row was just talking about the different purposes behind the broadcasts on Radio and TV.

Unfortunately, id say the purpose behind both often seems more about making a commercial for liberty as opposed to showing the football game. Anyone else get that feeling?
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By Purple Haize
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rueful wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:I thought I just saw what a post from Charlie Browns teacher would look like.
haha.

I finally got around to watching the presby game on DVR the other day, and holy smokes the opening animations were straight out of the 90's. Front Row was just talking about the different purposes behind the broadcasts on Radio and TV.

Unfortunately, id say the purpose behind both often seems more about making a commercial for liberty as opposed to showing the football game. Anyone else get that feeling?
I don't. The ESPN3 feed always shows that Japenese Heinekin commercial!
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