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By PAmedic
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#200294
SuperJon wrote:Crawford is a senior.
don't talk to me until you answer your phone, NANCY
By Mixitup
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olldflame wrote:Danny Rocco in postgame interview: "Rashad Jennings made a great decision there at the end of the game to just run the clock out" "It was all about the clock there at the end of the game."

Can you imagine Rocco saying "We didn't want to score there at the end of the game, cause kickoffs are dangerous, and somebody could get hurt" Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! :rofl
What does that prove? There are many reasons to run the clock out. Rocco didn't give a reason. He did not have to. Anyone with common sense and knowledge of the game knows the right reasons to run out the clock. The game was won. If Rashad on that same play would have taken a big hit or twisted his ankle I'm sure you would be second guessing that too. Take a deep breath, sit back and think about what you say before you say it. I have been around football long enough to know how to manage a game.


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The views of the people that post on the board are the sole views of the people posting. In no way does anyone have to agree with or disagree with that person. This board is for participation purposes only. Your personal opinion or reading of the coaches mind or of other posters minds on this board on certain matters does not make you an expert in Coaching 101. It's just your view.
By SuperJon
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PAmedic wrote:
SuperJon wrote:Crawford is a senior.
don't talk to me until you answer your phone, NANCY
You didn't call me. My phone never rang. Ask Bryson.
By olldflame
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#200310
Mixitup wrote:
olldflame wrote:Danny Rocco in postgame interview: "Rashad Jennings made a great decision there at the end of the game to just run the clock out" "It was all about the clock there at the end of the game."

Can you imagine Rocco saying "We didn't want to score there at the end of the game, cause kickoffs are dangerous, and somebody could get hurt" Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight! :rofl
What does that prove? There are many reasons to run the clock out. Rocco didn't give a reason. He did not have to. Anyone with common sense and knowledge of the game knows the right reasons to run out the clock. The game was won. If Rashad on that same play would have taken a big hit or twisted his ankle I'm sure you would be second guessing that too. Take a deep breath, sit back and think about what you say before you say it. I have been around football long enough to know how to manage a game.


Here's something for you.


WARNING
The views of the people that post on the board are the sole views of the people posting. In no way does anyone have to agree with or disagree with that person. This board is for participation purposes only. Your personal opinion or reading of the coaches mind or of other posters minds on this board on certain matters does not make you an expert in Coaching 101. It's just your view.
I guess that last one was directed at me. That's an interesting disclaimer coming from someone who earlier basically called me an idiot because I didn't agree with you.

There is a lot of room for opinion in a discussion board like this, but to suggest that is all there is and nobody is ever right or wrong is....................... well...................... WRONG!!

There are NOT a lot of reasons for running out the clock. You run out the clock to WIN THE GAME. Do you know what they call the formation offenses use to kneel down and run the clock? They call it the VICTORY formation. They do not call it the LET'S NOT GET ANYBODY HURT formation.

We've both speculated about what Rocco was thinking, when in fact, what Rocco was thinking is irrelevant, because it was RJ who made the decision (either on the spur of the moment or more likely before the play) that he would not score if he had the opportunity. Do you honestly believe he was thinking about people not getting hurt? HE WAS THINKING ABOUT WINNING THE GAME!!!! WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO ACCEPT?????? ISN'T THAT WHAT WE WANT FROM OUR PLAYERS?????? :banghead


BTW, I think that Sly was spot on about that play creating some buzz in the coaching community and working in our favor in the polls. 7 points is just 7 points. This was something fairly unusual.
By Champion
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#200314
RagingTireFire wrote:
Champion wrote:
olldflame wrote:I guess we need to bench RJ and fire Rocco, since they are both obviously out of touch with the realities of FCS football.
Rocco had nothing to do with it and RJ just made a questionable decision. I don't think you need to go to exremes here.
That's just stupid. When you're ahead and have the ball at the end of the game, you DO NOT give it back to the other team for ANY reason. That's basic Football 101. Falling down at the 1 was the smartest and most unselfish thing RJ could have possibly done. He sacrificed his own stats for the sake of making certain that the team won. That's the action of a guy who legitimately understands the game and understands his role in it.

Incidentally, you know what's far far far more impressive to voters than a double-digit margin of victory? 5-0.
If this were "basic football" you would be seeing guys slide down at the 1 yard line on sure touchdown plays all the time. That's the first time I've seen it and only the second time I've heard of it happening with an offensive back heading to the endzone. I think a lot of people are going to be suprised to find out that LU isn't perfect and makes mistakes. I can't tell you the number of times Rocco has admited to this. And it is the little things that keep you out of the playoffs. (I seem to remember a controversial inch or so at William and Mary last year) With that being said I think it's time for me to give this one a rest. I am thrilled with a 5-0 start (which as many have said IS the more important issue). In the grand scheme of things it really didn't matter what happened at Coastal as long as LU won. Either tactic would have secured the game, wHich is the more the more important issue. I'm ready to concede this one and move on to more important issues....like beating Stony Brook (and maybe "running up" the score)
By olldflame
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#200319
To me, of all the opinions expressed about that play, the one that carries the most weight is Bennett's. He praised it as a smart and unselfish play. Why? Because he knew that it took away whatever faint hope they still had of winning at that point. Scoring the touchdown would have been a bullet in the chest. This was a silver stake through the heart.
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By Cider Jim
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#200320
Olldflame, you may have a good point there: I would trust the analysis of the two coaches--Rocco & Bennett--on the play over what the MASN announcers said.

Of course, the bigger question is, how did JE & PR say about the play???
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By Rooster Cogburn
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olldflame wrote:To me, of all the opinions expressed about that play, the one that carries the most weight is Bennett's. He praised it as a smart and unselfish play. Why? Because he knew that it took away whatever faint hope they still had of winning at that point. Scoring the touchdown would have been a bullet in the chest. This was a silver stake through the heart.
Well Played!
By absturgill
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PAmedic wrote:
absturgill wrote: This was the first game I've been able to watch and not rely on the audio stream. It seemed to me like #24 the strong safety for LU was missing a lot of tackles. Are they running a different defensive package or am I just crazy?
HEY HEY HEY, NOW :shock:

WHAT THE FREAK, HATER

8)
PA, I'm not hatin' believe me. It seemed to me like something wasn't right. That being said, this was the first LU game I've been able to see this year. Been relying on JE and the Live Stats. I just didn't know if it was a differnet defensive package or other factors. But I'm not hatin'. I am thrilled we're 5-0 and looking forward to Homecoming to see them in person.
By JK37
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Mixitup wrote: WARNING
The views of the people that post on the board are the sole views of the people posting. In no way does anyone have to agree with or disagree with that person. This board is for participation purposes only. Your personal opinion or reading of the coaches mind or of other posters minds on this board on certain matters does not make you an expert in Coaching 101. It's just your view.
You are only entitled to an opinion if you can defend it.
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By JDUB
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J5 left handed choke slam = AWESOME.

that was a really fun trip

their blackout failed miserably.

their fans are uncreative. all i heard was flamers and a few words i can't post, nothing original at all

glad we won, sloppy D but a win is a win and i'll take it. I'm looking forward to the rest of this year. i have bigtime confidence in this team

and i'm sad to see ZT go down

and MIKE BROWN is still the man. no one has mentioned him yet and i didn't look at his stats, but he's the man
By grm
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#200347
Any win is a good win.

When you beat one of your main rivals it is a great win.

5-0 with great prospects is fantastic.
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By Cider Jim
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#200467
Quote from the video about "the play":

Rashad told Coach Bennett: "We didn't need any more points."
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By bozlady
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#200470
I need to go back and listen to that. The volume on my laptop isn't the best but my earplugs work better.
By Mixitup
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#200480
JK37 wrote:
Mixitup wrote: WARNING
The views of the people that post on the board are the sole views of the people posting. In no way does anyone have to agree with or disagree with that person. This board is for participation purposes only. Your personal opinion or reading of the coaches mind or of other posters minds on this board on certain matters does not make you an expert in Coaching 101. It's just your view.
You are only entitled to an opinion if you can defend it.
Are you serious? That was just a little sarcasm for the person who seems to believe that he has all of the right answers. The only opinions that really count are those of the coaches.
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By Schfourteenteen
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#200543
Alright! Lets add more to the fire

Rashad made a GREAT football move. Sealed the win against a team we need to beat(Which is obviously the reason he did it). Unfortunately, this may come back to bite us in the end.

Check this out. At the end of the year, we will have beaten (I think the most common scenario)a .500 YSU team, a bottom SoCon WCU team, hopefully the Pioneer champs, and everyone in conference.

Looking back against the YSU game and the CCU game:

We may have WANTED to run up the score. Beating CCU by 5 doesnt look nearly as good as winning by 12, putting up around 50 points. Turning the ball over twice in the fourth quarter makes a 14 or even 17 or 21 point victory turn into a 3 point win, and WCU we obviously just couldnt get the ball in the end zone. By winning three games by such a small margin, we erase the amount of mistakes we can make. If we win by 10+ in all of those games, losing to Lafayette may not have killed us, where as now we absolutely must run the table through mid November.

In each of those 3 games, the scoreboard does not represent how good of a team we are, and being from a BS conference we really NEED to show that we are for real in the next weeks. Lets take care of VMI CSU (who look much improved from last year) beat up GW and SB (who are shaky) and show we are a playoff calibre team when we play Lafayette and Elon. At home, we need to win every game by multiple scores (winning against Elon would erase any doubt in the committees mind IMO).
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By ToTheLeft
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CSU is not that much better, they just have what seems to be an okay QB with the worst supporting cast ever. They beat GW, sure, but have you seen the stats? That game was LOST by GW, not won by CSU.

When did we play the Pioneer Champs?

And YSU still could turn out to have a decent record... they did beat "i forget which dakota"DSU, if you recall.
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By Iwasneverhere
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#200550
ToTheLeft wrote:When did we play the Pioneer Champs?
We haven't yet. Lafayette will hopefully be the PL champs
By SuperJon
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Lafayette is Patriot League, not Pioneer.
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By ToTheLeft
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SuperJon wrote:Lafayette is Patriot League, not Pioneer.
Ding Ding Ding. Jon figured it out. :)

We don't play any Pioneer league teams... and it wouldn't look good for our resume if we did.
By coolhandluke
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"26 is a pretty dadgumm good cornerback for Liberty".

and my personal favorite...

"We are trying to get our students more involved in the games, Liberty does a good job with that".
By SuperJon
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coolhandluke wrote:"26 is a pretty dadgumm good cornerback for Liberty".
Defensive player of the week this week.
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By Schfourteenteen
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SuperJon wrote:Lafayette is Patriot League, not Pioneer.
Good Call I was tired so the first P word I could think of was going to be the winner
By JK37
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Schfourteenteen wrote:We may have WANTED to run up the score. Beating CCU by 5 doesnt look nearly as good as winning by 12
I disagree. With our 5-point win over Coastal, we jumped up five spots in the FCS Coaches poll to #16. And in the FCS TSN poll, we also jumped up five spots to #15. How much further do you think we would have jumped if we'd won by 12 instead of 5? In the eyes of the pollsters, our 5-point win was plenty.
Coaching changes

It appears your intel was on the mark.