[Schfourteenteen]

I love Jeff Barber and I do believe he is the major reason why Liberty Athletics is so strong now, why would I try to get people to go against him?

Maybe thats the problem... You have obviously been drinking... No Sober person would believe that

Always gotta be picking a fight

[Lilly]

I know I said my peace before but this has to be said. Our group was in no way created to spite the Liberty Athletic Dept.



We all respect what Jeff and his staff has done for this school like I said before, I am a huge Jess Barber supporter!




I love Jeff Barber and I do believe he is the major reason why Liberty Athletics is so strong now, why would I try to get people to go against him?

Maybe thats the problem... You have obviously been drinking... No Sober person would believe that

Obviously Andy knows me too well....

[Lilly]

we just encouraged fun bright and vibrant colors.

But are there any vibrant colors that maybe you wouldnt encourage someone to wear? Like some skin tones dont work with some colors and it could just end up in a big mess. It would be a shame to have a pretty girl and a pretty dress get ruined by a color combination disaster.

I'm glad we're on the same page. You should help me pick out next weekend's dress!!

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

I know I said my peace before but this has to be said. Our group was in no way created to spite the Liberty Athletic Dept.



We all respect what Jeff and his staff has done for this school like I said before, I am a huge Jess Barber supporter!




I love Jeff Barber and I do believe he is the major reason why Liberty Athletics is so strong now, why would I try to get people to go against him?

Maybe thats the problem... You have obviously been drinking... No Sober person would believe that

Obviously Andy knows me too well....

It was a joke, you really are new to this arent you?

[threetees]

As a former Liberty athlete I would just like to say that what we're really getting down to here is fan support. If you ask anyone on basically any team BESIDES football, they would probably tell you that it doesn't matter if the fans are there in red or not, as long as they're there it is appreciated. For example, sports that are "less advertised" in comparison to football, such as, softball, soccer, and cross country. The Liberty men's track team has claimed over 11 Big South titles in the past couple of years ( both indoor and outdoor seasons), including in the 2007-2008 season. In 2007 the Liberty Flames football team wins a Big South title and the entire school goes nuts, meanwhile the LU track and field isn't even mentioned in convo. Or if you really want to get picky about the whole red thing, think about this, if it is our school color then why are all the athletes warm-ups navy blue?

Back to the fan support, those people may not have been wearing red, but I saw them at the game from start to finish. They were sitting behind and screaming for their team even when the scoreboard said 42-10 and the second string was going in. Where was the "sea of red" in the 4th quarter?

If you're going to fight about something or claim to be devoted to the Flames athletic department as a whole then maybe you should realize that football is only a just piece of the puzzle.

[Schfourteenteen]

Also to any newcomers

There is a certain class of posters called "dummies" whose sole purpose in life is to say random stuff at the end of the day to "make arguements stupid" and stop fighting. Its kind of like EMS but they do a good job. Also we dont have a shrine built for LU players from PA.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

As a former Liberty athlete I would just like to say that what we're really getting down to here is fan support. If you ask anyone on basically any team BESIDES football, they would probably tell you that it doesn't matter if the fans are there in red or not, as long as they're there it is appreciated. For example, sports that are "less advertised" in comparison to football, such as, softball, soccer, and cross country. The Liberty men's track team has claimed over 11 Big South titles in the past couple of years ( both indoor and outdoor seasons), including in the 2007-2008 season. In 2007 the Liberty Flames football team wins a Big South title and the entire school goes nuts, meanwhile the LU track and field isn't even mentioned in convo. Or if you really want to get picky about the whole red thing, think about this, if it is our school color then why are all the athletes warm-ups navy blue?

Back to the fan support, those people may not have been wearing red, but I saw them at the game from start to finish. They were sitting behind and screaming for their team even when the scoreboard said 42-10 and the second string was going in. Where was the "sea of red" in the 4th quarter?

If you're going to fight about something or claim to be devoted to the Flames athletic department as a whole then maybe you should realize that football is only a just piece of the puzzle.

[Schfourteenteen]

In 2007 the Liberty Flames football team wins a Big South title and the entire school goes nuts, meanwhile the LU track and field isn't even mentioned in convo.

Wonder which sport you played. But hey look on the bright side, they didnt call you a paintball team

Or if you really want to get picky about the whole red thing, think about this, if it is our school color then why are all the athletes warm-ups navy blue?

Multiple reasons: We have two(2) school colors, and blue works good with more skin tones

Back to the fan support, those people may not have been wearing red, but I saw them at the game from start to finish. They were sitting behind and screaming for their team even when the scoreboard said 42-10 and the second string was going in. Where was the "sea of red" in the 4th quarter?

Ever heard of a canal?

If you're going to fight about something or claim to be devoted to the Flames athletic department as a whole then maybe you should realize that football is only the biggest piece of the puzzle.

Except that football is one of the few televised week in week out, the sport that brings the most attention to a school, and the sport that is most popular in the US. So for that, FIFY. Also note the red font goes will with attire at football games.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

... and trust me Im not devoted to them nor do I agree with much that they do.

[PeterParker]

This thread has been most amusing...Thanks, all.

How about the Great Compromise:


Southern Style can paint their chests and the LUnatics can wear Sundresses to next week's game...wait, what?

[bozlady]

<--i've always wanted to use that icon

I just started reading this thread this morning......it's y'alls fault if I'm late for work

[jmdickens]

I agree with the Jcrew models

Let them wear whatever they want and get over it. done deal

[BrysOn_G]

Lilly,

There are two "compromises" that I believe are not outrageous to ask of the Southern Style Football group:

1.) Could the ones that chose to drink before the game, on campus, on the main road, have a little respect and at least do it at home before or after that game? I don't know names, but I'm sure you must. This is far from an outrageous request.

2.) Could Brent encourage the group to wear school-colored dresses, shirts, etc.? Even if it's not red, the other two school colors still shows a little more respect than assorted "vibrant colors." At least one of your group works for the athletic department. Even if you didn't, this still is not an outrageous request.

Do not get upset when being accused of blatantly going against JB, BG and the athletic department. You work for them. You know what the push is. Most of us know the Southern thing is completely innocent, and never had any intention of directly going against the athletic department. However, the fact of the matter is that it does go against what is being promoted and encouraged by them.

I hope you all will continue to be as supportive as you have been, but might consider the two compromises listed above.

[LUconn]

I knew someone would say this. They have their chests painted in school colors.

And they have the name of their group painted on them instead of the name of the school. *cough* attention whores *cough*

i think its funny that you said the LUnatics were "attention whores" b/c they painted their chests with their own name. Yet people can show up looking like a bag of skittles and they aren't "attention whores" at all.

oh and pretty sure LU is the name of our school.

[Fumblerooskies]

This may be one of the silliest arguments I have seen on here. I give major props to the students...REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY WEAR...showing school spirit...IN HOWEVER MEANS THEY CHOOSE. My gosh...3 years ago we were lucky students were not showing up wearing paper bags over their heads.

Lilly/Brent...keep on keeping on...show the spirit...however you want to!

[Schfourteenteen]

Well done!

[RagingTireFire]

The jist of this whole argument isn't worth my time. The football team needs to start playing on Tuesdays AND Saturdays so you people can have something legit to talk about. However, there is one point I would like to make.

as an active football player on the liberty team....

I'm calling on this.

[Lilly]

The fact of the matter is, the boys on the team appreciate our support 100% and they know that our full intention is to be there for them. We don't show up to games to please anyone but our team. This discussion is just outrageous and what's even worse is that apparently the student conduct office is now getting involved.

As for ya'll calling BS on JP... He is a player on the team, so stop being ignorant. We love him and love that fact that he supports us (which is the case with most of the guys). We'll cheer our hearts out for them no matter what we are wearing and they understand that best.

We are all fans of the flames, get over what people were wearing and start getting pumped for another win this Saturday!

[RagingTireFire]

As for ya'll calling BS on JP... He is a player on the team, so stop being ignorant.

Then he's either a complete idiot or a freshman which is more or less the same thing.

[LUconn]

yeah, I don't doubt he's a player but I doubt coach would be too happy to find out his players are posting with us. I think we're viewed as unclean and annoying.

[Lilly]

As for ya'll calling BS on JP... He is a player on the team, so stop being ignorant.

Then he's either a complete idiot or a freshman which is more or less the same thing.

So I'm a bad fan for wearing a pink sundress to the game, but you can call one of our most talented players an idiot? It's so obvious that you are a great fan.

[coolhandluke]

The fact of the matter is, the boys on the team appreciate our support 100% and they know that our full intention is to be there for them. We don't show up to games to please anyone but our team. This discussion is just outrageous and what's even worse is that apparently the student conduct office is now getting involved.

As for ya'll calling BS on JP... He is a player on the team, so stop being ignorant. We love him and love that fact that he supports us (which is the case with most of the guys). We'll cheer our hearts out for them no matter what we are wearing and they understand that best.

We are all fans of the flames, get over what people were wearing and start getting pumped for another win this Saturday!

I can't wait. I love seeing that sea of red and blue... oh and green, pink, purple, orange, magenta, teal, and whatever other non- school color you jackals wear.

[RagingTireFire]

If he was that talented, he'd have been on the field instead of looking into the stands.

[Hold My Own]

LOL...after all this outrage I think we were WAY to nice to our band when they wore the opposing team colors...after all they are funded by the SCHOOL!

[coolhandluke]

If he was that talented, he'd have been on the field instead of looking into the stands.