[JMUDukes]

OH by the way I had a dream we beat JMU 21-20 haha

[Stevev]

Yea nice dream indeed! I still waiting for someone to wake me up and tell me that the Robert Morris game was a dream also so I can forget about situation and move on.

[BJWilliams]

^^^^^(this is why I probably would not hire Stevev on my coaching staff if I was a coach at any level)

[01LUGrad]

24-21 LU
Bevins FG ftw.

Please, oh please, oh please...

[kuntryboimike]

24-21 LU
Bevins FG ftw.

Please, oh please, oh please...

a 52 yd field goal at that. and he gets all of his confidence back

[Schfourteenteen]

^^^^^(this is why I probably would not hire Stevev on my coaching staff if I was a coach at any level)

(I wouldn't hire that (expletive) negative nancy either)

I feel like all these ()()^^^ belong in an excel formula

=if(and(WorldEndDate=Today(), HeadCoach="BJ Williams"), "not Stevev, because he still hasn't woken up from that Robert Morris dream", WorldStatus="Normal")

[Rooster Cogburn]

^^^^^(this is why I probably would not hire Stevev on my coaching staff if I was a coach at any level)

(I wouldn't hire that (expletive) negative nancy either)

I feel like all these ()()^^^ belong in an excel formula

=if(and(WorldEndDate=Today(), HeadCoach="BJ Williams"), "not Stevev, because he still hasn't woken up from that Robert Morris dream", WorldStatus="Normal")

You know 14 I know you don't like me either, but that is funny anyway.

[whmatthews]

JMU: 38
LU: 29

[LU for life]

Yeah but I dont get too deep into things between band directors. I dont know what the band did last year for NCCU when their band came last year

Hey Beej, quick question. Do those in the band consider themselves athletes?

Oh dear. Band does not = athlete. Playing an instrument and walking around is not athletic. Does it take talent? Absolutely. But there two different kinds of talent. Most football players probably can't do what most band members do, and most (probably all) band members can't do what football players do especially at the collegiate level.

BJ what you do in band, is not athletic. What everyone else in band does, IS athletic. No, I do not consider myself an athlete for being in band. But you cannot not deny that the physical work and dedication that is put into practice and doing a show is not athletic by nature.

In high school band camp, we would get up every morning at 5 a.m. and run about a mile to the football stadium from the dorm, once we got to the stadium, we would run a mile around the track, then do physical exercise for the next 2 hours. Without exaggeration, we would do 200 jumping jacks, 100 push ups, 100 sit ups, 100 "lay on your back and reach up and touch your toes things", the whole "six-inches routine", and many many other exercises. And if people showed up late, we would start all over again. Even when we finished and someone tried to skip the whole morning exercise all together, we would start from the beginning. So, double all of those numbers, and that would all be done before eating breakfast.

Granted, this was a "high-stepping, traditionally black, show band" much like NCCU's band last year. That's how we did things. That's the way black bands are. Its very military like and its VERY VERY physical.

Bottom line:

Marching band members are not athletes, but what they do is very athletic. And no one can deny that.

p.s. sorry for my little rant lol. I was just very fired up that BJ suggested that marching band only required skill and not athleticism.

[BJWilliams]

I wasnt saying that it didnt require athleticism LU4L, just that the members of the marching band are not athletes by the popular definition of an athlete. Like I said before, some meatball cant just pop in off the street in the middle of October and take one of the new 40 lb (or 50 I forget exactly) tubas and do some of the things that the band is doing in the show this year. I will say that band camp here is by no means as intense as any other band, in particular the HBCU bands who have camps like that (I envision the scene from the movie Drumline where they are in military chair repeating the cadence in the pouring rain). Skill certainly is necessary but even though the members of the marching band arent necessarily classified as "athletes" the things they do are quite athletic. If not for injuring my knee like I did a few years ago Id of tried to do at least one of my prior seasons in the band on the main hornline

[Schfourteenteen]

BJ what you do in band, is not athletic. What everyone else in band does, IS athletic. No, I do not consider myself an athlete for being in band. But you cannot not deny that the physical work and dedication that is put into practice and doing a show is not athletic by nature.

In high school band camp, we would get up every morning at 5 a.m. and run about a mile to the football stadium from the dorm, once we got to the stadium, we would run a mile around the track, then do physical exercise for the next 2 hours. Without exaggeration, we would do 200 jumping jacks, 100 push ups, 100 sit ups, 100 "lay on your back and reach up and touch your toes things", the whole "six-inches routine", and many many other exercises. And if people showed up late, we would start all over again. Even when we finished and someone tried to skip the whole morning exercise all together, we would start from the beginning. So, double all of those numbers, and that would all be done before eating breakfast.

Granted, this was a "high-stepping, traditionally black, show band" much like NCCU's band last year. That's how we did things. That's the way black bands are. Its very military like and its VERY VERY physical.

Bottom line:

Marching band members are not athletes, but what they do is very athletic. And no one can deny that.

p.s. sorry for my little rant lol. I was just very fired up that BJ suggested that marching band only required skill and not athleticism.

1 - You have no idea how much athleticism it takes to push the bandstand thingy off the field when the kickoff is about to start and the players are waiting on you. TALK ABOUT HAVING THE WORLD ON YOUR SHOULDERS!

2 - Sounds athletic

3 - Me -------------Tenfootpole------------____________ what you just said

4 - The main guy you're quoting is from the military. And something tells me his boot-camp wasnt filled with 100 "lay on your back and reach up and touch your toes things"

Welcome to the board!

[kuntryboimike]

Okay there's a huge difference between being athletic and being in shape. Just because you're a soldier doesn't mean you're an athlete. But yes a lot of soldiers ARE athletes which is WHY they join the military. You can work out and be fit and in shape all you want. That doesn't make you an athlete. Athlete is someone is in Athletics. As in a SPORT. I'm not saying all athletes are on teams currently, but all athletes are at least a little more than decent at an ATHLETIC SPORT.

[vicfirth1989]

Ok I say....

LU-27
JMU- 26

[rueful]

JMU - 42
LU - 20

[JK37]

24-19, JMU.

Bright side: Bevins gets his mojo back.

[rogers3]

31-10, JMU

There will be a pick-6 in the red zone and another TD due to a turnover and we will spend the next year talking trash about how JMU isn't really that good because we "gave" them 14 points and we should have won 24-17.

There will always be next year.

I hope BJ doesn't come down too hard on me.

[BJWilliams]

No need...as I said in the postmortem I spent the game in the hospital

[Cider Jim]

31-10, JMU

Roger, you were only one digit off.

Had you dropped the "1" in 31, you would have had the winner.