[phoenix]

I like this one:

16. The Flames will burn the rest of the Big South - again. Danny Rocco’s Liberty Flames, with a 12-1 record in their last 13 Big South conference games, will continue their torrid streak in 2009 with another title. The only question is if they can figure out Presbyterian - who shocked them 31-28 last year and most likely denied them a shot at the FCS playoffs. Sure, Coastal Carolina, Chuck South and Gardner-Webb fans, cry if you want to - but the fact is Liberty is still a stacked team despite the graduation of running back Rashad Jennings and quarterback Brock Smith. The only question is - will they have the at-large wins to give them a long-awaited shot at the playoffs?

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[rueful]

Number 1 on that List. I was born in Quincy, and Dr. Willmington has ties to the town as well.

[Chris Lang]

OK, this 12 out of 13 business is bugging me, and it bugged me when Phil Steele included stats from everybody's Presbyterian game last year as part of teams' Big South stats. Those. Games. Didn't. Count. There was a reason for that. Presbyterian was not a Big South opponent for anyone last year. Liberty has won 12 straight Big South games, period. PC was not a conference game last season. Period.

Rant over.

[Cider Jim]

Presbyterian was not a Big South opponent for anyone last year. Liberty has won 12 straight Big South games, period. PC was not a conference game last season. Period.

I love it when Lang roots for the home team.

[Chris Lang]

It's not rooting for the home team. It's rooting for accuracy. In Steele's guide, he included everyone's game against Presby last year as a league game, when it wasn't. It skewed all of the stats and records and was quite annoying. If you want to be accurate, Liberty has not lost a Big South game since it lost to Coastal Carolina in 2006. You don't need to include a caveat about Presbyterian, because it was determined well before the season that PC would not be considered a conference game.

[Rocketfan]

It's not rooting for the home team. It's rooting for accuracy. In Steele's guide, he included everyone's game against Presby last year as a league game, when it wasn't. It skewed all of the stats and records and was quite annoying. If you want to be accurate, Liberty has not lost a Big South game since it lost to Coastal Carolina in 2006. You don't need to include a caveat about Presbyterian, because it was determined well before the season that PC would not be considered a conference game.

Fine we will just appreciate the passion at the defense of our unbeaten streak

[Sly Fox]

Number 1 on that List. I was born in Quincy, and Dr. Willmington has ties to the town as well.

I graduated from Quincy High School back when QC was a 3rd rate D3. Dr. Willmington's mom was like an extra grandma for me at church.

[rueful]

Number 1 on that List. I was born in Quincy, and Dr. Willmington has ties to the town as well.

I graduated from Quincy High School back when QC was a 3rd rate D3. Dr. Willmington's mom was like an extra grandma for me at church.

was that when their basketball team went on that crazy winning streak and after every win they played "another one bites the dust"? Everytime my dad hears that song he repeats the story to me.

What are the odds that we have two people from one of the most random towns on this board, as well as being home to Dr. wilmington

[Sly Fox]

I was a student at QHS during those crazy days. Jeff Klingler was one of my friends at church and my dad married Bruce Douglas who still keeps in touch with him. I have never witnessed anything as nuts as Blue Devil basketball back in those days. There were 6-year waiting lists to get tickets for a 3500-seat gym.

[rueful]

i was crazy young back then so dont remember much of it, but the one thing I do remember was one of the games they came close to losing, the last second play where the guy chucked the ball all the way down the court basically making it just about in the basket to inbound it, and someone else just tapped it in to waste the last like .04 seconds and win the game.

If you remember Lighthouse Baptist Church, my dad was the founding pastor there

[Sly Fox]

My dad pastored Central Baptist on State Street.

That player incidentally was Dennis Douglas against Joliet in the State semifinal. Dude, I haven't thought about Blue Devil basketball is 20 years ... literally.

[rueful]

ive never had anyone else who knew anything about it or believed the story about that last second play. Wasnt that play from one Douglas brother to the other? May be mistaken.

Have you been back to Quincy since highschool? Its still a crazy, podunk kind of town. I cant believe Ive encountered someone else from quincy haha

[Sly Fox]

I have made a point not to visit. the day after I graduated I moved away. I only visited once and that was to drive back to help my parents move to Texas. They swing through the Greater Quincy/Hannibal metropolitan area on vacations once every few years. Other than even more industrial closures, they say not much has changed.

Surprisingly I have met more than a few former Quincy residents here in Texas. It baffles me every time. There were some nice folks there. But it had nothing else going for it. Unemployment was over 40% when I was in high school and McDonalds used to have several hundred applicants line up for any openings. Depressing town.

[rueful]

yeah especially with that description. I still have family that lives down there, and my cousins that grew up there are all pretty messed up. Whats funny though is that I was born there, and then grew up in all suburbs of major cities, so as where I know alot of people (particularly where I work) that think of lynchburg as a huge city, ive always thought of it on the same leverl as quincy ( though I know they are quite different in size.) Mainly i think because the lynchburg mall is so much like the quincy mall (weve got it all, at quincy mall. have fun with that stuck in your head all night haha)

[Sly Fox]

Its funny, that stupid jingle comes up in my cabeza everytime we visit a mall.

In my graduating class of around 625, we had 14 people in my class die from either alcohol or drug related problems. Ugh, its even depressing thinking about it now. But it makes me appreciate where I am now even more.

[Sly Fox]

Its funny, I just remembered why your dad's church stuck in my head. He had Jerry fly out and do a big production in town about '84 or so at the height of his Moral Majority notoriety. I'm sure our dads probably knew each other once upon a time.

OK, I'll do this to myself ...

[rueful]

Its funny, I just remembered why your dad's church stuck in my head. He had Jerry fly out and do a big production in town about '84 or so at the height of his Moral Majority notoriety. I'm sure our dads probably knew each other once upon a time.

OK, I'll do this to myself ...

yeah, my dad was lucky to have that connection with Jerry to come do that, Dr. Towns came out a few times as well. He also had Elizabeth Elliot come talk a few years later, and I dont know if you ever read any of her books, shes a great author, but I guess a horrible public speaker.