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#186303
Ok, I'm tired of talking about this movie in code. If you haven't seen the movie, don't read this thread. This is the thread where we talk about it, and will probably talk about things that you don't want to know about. I'm going to start this on the next post, but I just wanted to warn you.






























































































































































































Don't read if you haven't seen the movie.
By SuperJon
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#186304
So, questions:

1) Does Two-Face come back for the next one?

2) Does The Joker come back for the next one?

3) What other villain will be in the next one?
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By RubberMallet
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#186305
there may be a small hiccup in bringing the joker back but thats just me...

the magic trick made it into my top 10 scenes of all time...
By SuperJon
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#186306
The magic trick was absolutely awesome.


Do you think Two-Face comes back?


By the way, I read that the scene in the jail when The Joker starts clapping was improv'd by Ledger. Him clapping wasn't written into the script.
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By RubberMallet
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i dont' think so because as i had mentioned in the other post, i disliked his villianous development and will find it hard for them to make a good story about him....maybe possibly team him up with another villian?

i don't think they'll do the penguin....i don't think they'll do the riddler....i think it would be neat to incorporate a lesser known villian...

anarky, black mask, mad hatter...
By sweetnahmah1
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I saw the movie last night, thought it was awesome. I was on the edge of my seat the last hour. Ledger did a fantastic job.
And I am wondering how they will finish off the joker. Will he just go to jail "forever" or are they gonne make up some story that he died.
Also, Two-face might not be dead. I don't know. Can't think of who will be in the next one, but already can't wait for it.
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By PeterParker
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FYI: Some are saying the alter ego for Mad Hatter was in the TDK: Jervis Tetch. They claim he is the guy with the "Rachel Dawes" name tag in the ambulance and gets "interviewed" by Harvey Dent. >Have to watch it again to validate.
By blwall1416
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#186329
I would like to see Bane in one of the films.

Ledger's performance was awesome. The movie was dark....just like it's suppose to be.
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By RagingTireFire
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#186339
I hate Bane with a passion. Possibly the worst Batman villain ever.
By blwall1416
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I wasn't thinking as a main villain....more of a side story.
By SuperJon
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sweetnahmah1 wrote:Also, Two-face might not be dead. I don't know.
A lot of people are saying Two-Face isn't dead. They just had a "memorial service" for Harvey Dent so that the Joker didn't win, but when in actuality Two Face is still alive.
By thepostman
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I figured there was no doubt that two-face was still, in fact, still alive...i mean yes, they had the memorial service...but i think two-face will be back for the next one...I could be completely wrong...but that is what I got from it...
By ATrain
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I definitely think two-face will be back, I mean, that fall didn't kill Batman, so its probable that it didn't kill him either.
By TIMSCAR20
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ATrain wrote:I definitely think two-face will be back, I mean, that fall didn't kill Batman, so its probable that it didn't kill him either.
If Two Face didn't die from an infection from walking around with open burn wounds, I doubt that fall killed him :lol: I subscribe to the memorial service being a farce as well. I loved this movie! I can't wait to go see it again. Heath Ledger was actually better than what they were saying he was and it is not because he died. The fact that he is dead does add to the darkness of the performance though. Christian Bale is the best batman too.
By Ed Dantes
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I heard some rumors that if they do a third Batman film (and after the $$$ rolled in from the last one, why not?), that they'd consider Poison Ivy as the villain (before you freak out, consider this: instead of having the power over plants, Poison Ivy is actually an eco-terrorist who wants to hunt down Bruce Wayne for the environmental damage that the Wayne Corporation is doing).

Of course, they'll probably cave to the demands of the studios and throw in some haphazard story line involving Catwoman, kinda like what Spider-Man did with Venom.
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By RagingTireFire
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#186420
Harley Quinn?
Deacon Blackfire?
Red Hood?
By SuperJon
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I've been reading more stuff online. Not only do people think the Mad Hatter was in this one, but people think that The Riddler was as well. The guy who knew who Batman was, that Bruce Wayne saved from getting hit by the truck, had the last name Reece. Mr. Reece aka Mysteries. Makes sense. I think Nolan just put a lot of little things in there to keep people talking.
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By "R" i "
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I dont follow batman very much.

But these two movies were great. I have a question.
Is the little boy going to be robbin? He is the only one (besides his dad) that know the true story about batman.
By SuperJon
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I don't think he knows who Batman really is. I'e thought the same thing, but I honestly don't think Christopher Nolan will ever use Robin. I think he'll keep it a one man show.
By ATrain
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I sincerely hope Robin never makes an appearance in these movies.
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By "R" i "
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SuperJon wrote:I don't think he knows who Batman really is. I'e thought the same thing, but I honestly don't think Christopher Nolan will ever use Robin. I think he'll keep it a one man show.

The boy knows that batman did not kill those cops.
By SuperJon
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Oh, right. I thought you meant that he knew where Batman came from.

Either way, I don't think there's anyway Christopher Nolan adds Robin.
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By RagingTireFire
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#186556
Christian Bale has gone on record as saying that if they bring in Robin, he's done.
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By PeterParker
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They would go with Grayson/Nightwing before they did Robin...but Nolan & Bale have been pretty adamant about no sidekick in this trilogy. (Now, if they wait a few years after this trilogy, they could reset with the Nightwing character for a new trilogy, but that is a moot point at this juncture.)


It is rumored that Eckhart signed a two picture deal.


Goyer has said that he and Nolan have discussed loosely a theme and villain for the third installment. http://www.comicbookmovie.com/news/articles/4859.asp
Interestingly, it’s the theme, and not the villain, that most interests me, especially given how the latter seems inexorably tied to the former in this new modern Batman universe. (Fear the predominant issue in “Begins” precipitating the introduction of Scarecrow, escalation in "Knight" similarly calling for The Joker.

The fact that Goyer has a theme he wants to keep in mind for a possible “Batman 3” means he also has a direction, a crisis, and, yes, a villain.

Here are some initial thoughts I had after leaving the theater when thinking about the third act, I mean trilogy (this will be verbose and stream of consciousness.)

I say Revelation would be an interesting theme if Two Face is not really dead as Gordon/Batman have cornered themselves by having to play up the mythos of the White Knight Savior angle. (They mentioned it in their dialogue that they bet the farm on Harvey, so the stakes couldn't be higher if the truth were to ever come out.) This could naturally lead to the Riddler who is an obssessive compulsive puzzle solver and Gotham resident. He would have seen the footage of the Joker who posed the question that would set hooks in the psyche of a person like the Riddler. But the Joker left it unanswered for his own hedonistic pleasure: Who is the Batman? (I imagine a scene straight out of the Number 23, Memento or Beautiful Mind with a room full of crazy clippings, information hoarding, etc. The mind games they could utilize for the Riddler could be great.) If Gotham flourishes with renewal after the memorial, then Wayne feasibly could feel that he could put Batman behind him as his intentions have been fulfilled. Just as he is content with letting it go, here would come someone trying to unravel it all with dire implications.


A somewhat re-imagined Riddler would be interesting if they made the him someone who once bought fully into and spread the message of the story and mythos surrounding Dent only to become bitterly disillusioned with discovery of the truth through a series of events (as his mind latches onto all of the potential inconsistencies of the story: Dent would lead to Dawes which would lead to Batman which would ultimately lead to Wayne.) Whereas the Joker was an anarchist who sought chaos for his own pleasure, a person like the Riddler would have disdain for chaos and a penchant for order (his personality demands it), only it would be social order as he believes it should be, perhaps that Gotham's commonman is too easily duped to be trusted with governmental influence through elections (the Dent story case in point.) At the same time he could be attracted to the Joker's charisma and style, hence the similar attempt at flare. If they write him as an intellectual (high IQ scholar, or genius detective/profiler), they could turn him into a political revolutionary who feels the Joker wasted the temporary control he exerted over Gotham. There would be ton of fodder for the duality of nature/psyche, etc.


An interesting cerebral chess match would make an interesting companion to action within the film. Batman was reduced to reacting to the Joker's whims, but it would be interesting to see him have to engage on the offensive as Wayne to stay a couple steps ahead of Nigma mentally. With the threat of Nigma/Riddler unraveling all that he and Commisioner Gordon have built up since Dent's memorial service. The Revelation of the truth would be devastating to the credibility of Gotham's Justice/Political system as well as to Wayne's reputation. Gotham truly could "fall." If Wayne can no longer hide behind the Mask and people associate him with a form of corruption (lying) although it was with good intentions, then everything his father worked for, everything he owns and the reputation of his father's name would be destroyed. That would make for some high stakes in an interesting action thriller. With the exception of Reece, Wayne hasn't really had to try that hard to mask his alter ego. (I think that was just an easter egg if notable at all. But perhaps the Riddler will find it ironic that a man named Mr.Reece knows the identity of Batman and will seek him out.) A film where both Batman and Wayne are one misstep away from checkmate, could be cool to see Nolan-style.
By Ed Dantes
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Why didn't they say that The Joker killed those cops at the end of the movie?
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