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Liberty Students for Obama

Posted: July 12th, 2008, 8:11 pm
by Fumblerooskies
Interesting...
The race for America's next president is heating up in our area. You've already seen the ads on television and Saturday you may have even gotten a knock at the door. Supporters of democrat Barack Obama (web|news|bio) canvassed Lynchburg neighborhoods Saturday morning. They were making sure people were registered to vote and spreading the word about their candidate. Republican presidential candidates have gotten used to winning Virginia, because a Democrat hasn't won since 1964. But these supporters say Obama may have a chance. Republican presidential candidates have gotten used to winning in Virginia and among evangelical Christians. But many experts say Virginia is very much in play and Obama is working hard to make inroads with the faith community. Now there's a group of Liberty University (web) students supporting Obama. The group's leader says it's been an uphill battle. In this conservative stronghold, you find Michelle Miller. She's the head of LU Students for Barack Obama.

http://www.wset.com/news/stories/0708/535393.html

Posted: July 12th, 2008, 8:43 pm
by Cider Jim
More info from the article Fumble posted:
Miller - "Honestly it's gonna be tough. Because the two main issues at Liberty are gay marriage and abortion."

The dean of Liberty Law School has denounced Obama --saying the Illinois Senator is quote-- "a considerable threat to our values."

Posted: July 12th, 2008, 8:56 pm
by LUconn
I would love for this group to answer a few questions. I've found most Obama supporters to be either just plain liberal or completely clueless. HOPE AND CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: July 12th, 2008, 10:39 pm
by JDUB
now obama has been trying to appear less liberal and lean more towards the middle. if he isn't careful he'll end up getting the flip flop title and get john kerry'd out the door

Posted: July 13th, 2008, 2:11 am
by TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
From bad to worse is still change though guys... No false advertisement there.

Posted: July 13th, 2008, 2:21 am
by TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
and this is the Miller lady they are talking about :roll: ... I wanted to make it a caption this, but ill be nice, and since we dont allow personal attacks ill keep my comments for when she shows up at my door to promote this clown

Image

Posted: July 13th, 2008, 2:28 am
by givemethemic
I like the shirt... But man those are some ugly earings

Posted: July 13th, 2008, 2:30 am
by TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
givemethemic wrote:I like the shirt... But man those are some ugly earings
The earrings are the only... nvm... Have to be nice....


P.S. You spelled earrings wrong, but hey, its expected

Posted: July 13th, 2008, 8:50 am
by rogers3
LUconn wrote:I would love for this group to answer a few questions. I've found most Obama supporters to be either just plain liberal or completely clueless. HOPE AND CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:vomit

Posted: July 13th, 2008, 8:50 am
by whmatthews
I had my facebook picture for a while as a picture of Obama with a crown, and underneat it said "Liar." One of the guys from that group sent me a few messages about it, I'll paste some of them for your entertainment:
Just out of curiosity, why - of all words you could use to describe someone - go with "liar" talking about BHO

I mean, i think the GOP has plenty of ammo for negative campaigning but accusations such as "liar" seem a bit strong, no?

And to call a man a "liar" who himself challenges politicians to a higher campaigning versus the negative rhetoric we're accustomed to seems backwards and a conflict of interest.

I'm sure you didn't yourself make the photo but saying he's the king of liars is exactly the politics he's trying to "change" lol

Anyways, I know you're a political man and I've become obsessed with this election since HRC won New Hampshire. I noticed that you were for M. Huckabee but I'm assuming you've moved on to McCain at this point...?

Well get back to me if you want to - I'm a republican by default but since McCain has been "and in other news" since he won the primary I've been watching the Dem's pretty closely and I've decided to support Obama. But I'm interested to know why you're anti-Obama and who you support now.
I don't know a whole lot about socailism and communism vs. capitalism - in fact, not much more than what I learned from Mrs. Ferdon in my required govt class... I was taught that socialism was basically an early stage to totalitarianism and that it was developed as a reaction to the rise of modern industrial capitalism. In my opinion a socialist economy is not possible at all because it would require the loss of wealth of the general population and in my opinion Americans would never give up their accumulated wealth. So unless I'm just ignorant or I've been looking in the wrong places I don't see how Obama is a socialist, why he would be, or how that would benefit him in running for president. I mean socialism at its core is completely un-American.

I'm a little more than halfway through "Audacity of Hope" and if he believes half of what he writes I think he'll make for a great president.

Back to the picture; all politicians, at least most of the successful ones have been involved in their fair share of controversy (I mean, one episode of fox's 24 and you wonder how a president could ever avoid it lol), but I don't see how that would make him the king of liars anymore than my presence in a bar would make me the king of alcoholics. See what I'm trying to say? Sure, there's loopholes to that analogy but I've read things by Politifact that call Obama a liar and their evidence is faulty at best. My major problem is the Rev Wright controversy and I wish there was some proof that he wasnt there most of those sermons. I mean, to sit under those teachings for twenty years is awful. However, I think a lot of politicians including our dearly beloved G.W. use religion as a PR stunt. I mean, 95% of Americans believe there is a God so claiming to be an atheist wouldn't get you very far. I think claiming to be a member of a church is helpful for them, Obama just happened to pick a lame-o church lol - But I think he prolly didn't frequent their very much. I'm not saying he's not a man of faith, i do believe that he is but I'm sure I'd disagree with him on a lot of non-fundamentals.

I just don't think you can say he's a liar without any kind of proof. Maybe he's contradicted himself but I don't think he knowingly mislead the public.

Posted: July 13th, 2008, 9:32 am
by LUconn
WOW. I think that guy falls under the completely clueless category. I hope you called him out on pretty much everything he said. My favorite part was this:
whmatthews wrote:


Well get back to me if you want to - I'm a republican by default but since McCain has been "and in other news" since he won the primary I've been watching the Dem's pretty closely and I've decided to support Obama.

pppffffff. It's not a freaking sports team. "I grew up in Seattle as a Seahawks fan but we moved to Illinois and I started to follow the Bears closely so I've decided to make them my favorite team." I won't even touch what a "republican by default" is. That whole paragraph reeks of an idiot, or a flaming lib trying to make himself look like a converted conservative. "I'm a conservative but..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminar_caller
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

Posted: July 13th, 2008, 9:58 am
by BJWilliams
My only commentary on that guy is apparently he never learned how to think for himself and make his own decisions politically or otherwise (probably had his mom and/or dad do all his thinking for him).

As for Mrs. Miller, I actually got a chance to meet her at the Celebrate America event at Williams Stadium. She's a pretty cool person (the whole Obama thing notwithstanding).

Posted: July 13th, 2008, 11:46 am
by flamesbball84
obama's next campaign strategy: go to the trailer parks to appeal to the rednecks who will most likely hate black people!

Posted: July 13th, 2008, 12:47 pm
by RubberMallet
these people are morons....i generally stay out of political discussions because i offer up too much common sense for most peoplle.

i live in illinois. barack has done nothing for this state. we have more plants closing than perhaps any other state in the union. none of the things he said he was going to do have been done. his ties to criminal's here mean that he is either a crook himself or he's too naive to be the president of the united states.

his flip flops on FISA should be ABSOLUTELY DISTURBING TO EVEN HIS FOLLOWERS.

the guy is a socialist in every sense of the word and its not like a namby pamby type of socialism i can live with. its extreme socialism. look at his voting record (when he actually shows up to vote). look at his mentors in life. black libertarianism is a horrible horrible thing. listen to the things he says about his family (his grandmother is a "typical white person" CAN YOU IMAGINE IF MCCAIN SAID THAT ABOUT A BLACK PERSON!?"0


i understand it people, people see mccain as another GW. they want something else. McCain is unfortunately just as big of a moron as barack.

i will be voting independent this year. i really wish we had a better way of expressing our distaste for either choices....almost doesn't make me want to vote at all for president...

Posted: July 14th, 2008, 11:40 am
by qkslvrsrfrboy
LUconn wrote:WOW. I think that guy falls under the completely clueless category. I hope you called him out on pretty much everything he said. My favorite part was this:
whmatthews wrote:


Well get back to me if you want to - I'm a republican by default but since McCain has been "and in other news" since he won the primary I've been watching the Dem's pretty closely and I've decided to support Obama.
If this is a shot at me, I never said I was a bears fan. I hate the bears. In the other discussion, I was just saying it would be sweet to see favre go there.

Sorry, I just dont want to be thrown in as being as clueless as a barack supporter, I hope you understand

pppffffff. It's not a freaking sports team. "I grew up in Seattle as a Seahawks fan but we moved to Illinois and I started to follow the Bears closely so I've decided to make them my favorite team." I won't even touch what a "republican by default" is. That whole paragraph reeks of an idiot, or a flaming lib trying to make himself look like a converted conservative. "I'm a conservative but..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminar_caller
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

Posted: July 14th, 2008, 11:50 am
by LUconn
I think your quoting was all messed up. But I wasn't taking a shot at you unless you facebooked that Obama message to matthews. I just picked 2 random teams.

Posted: July 14th, 2008, 11:58 am
by RubberMallet
qkslvrsrfrboy wrote:
LUconn wrote:WOW. I think that guy falls under the completely clueless category. I hope you called him out on pretty much everything he said. My favorite part was this:
whmatthews wrote:
If this is a shot at me, I never said I was a bears fan. I hate the bears. In the other discussion, I was just saying it would be sweet to see favre go there.

Sorry, I just dont want to be thrown in as being as clueless as a barack supporter, I hope you understand

pppffffff. It's not a freaking sports team. "I grew up in Seattle as a Seahawks fan but we moved to Illinois and I started to follow the Bears closely so I've decided to make them my favorite team." I won't even touch what a "republican by default" is. That whole paragraph reeks of an idiot, or a flaming lib trying to make himself look like a converted conservative. "I'm a conservative but..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seminar_caller
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
Image

Posted: July 14th, 2008, 12:00 pm
by LUconn
haha. I bet somebody got fired for that.

Posted: July 17th, 2008, 8:41 pm
by TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
Ok everyone here is the deal... This weekend, if they happen to come by your house or you run into them somwhere... Speak Spanish and then in english tell them they "should have to learn Spanish" to accommodate you :D

Posted: July 17th, 2008, 10:05 pm
by Fumblerooskies
Obama is opening an office in Lynchburg.

Posted: July 17th, 2008, 10:19 pm
by JDUB
that should present some fun scenarios...

Posted: July 17th, 2008, 10:21 pm
by SuperJon
Lynchburg
1125 Main Street
540-819-6646
10am-2pm

Posted: July 18th, 2008, 12:45 am
by SumItUp
RubberMallet wrote: McCain is unfortunately just as big of a moron as barack.

i will be voting independent this year. i really wish we had a better way of expressing our distaste for either choices....almost doesn't make me want to vote at all for president...
I disagree with a few positions that McCain has, but I do not believe he is a moron. On what do you base that statement? Why are you choosing to vote independent?

Posted: July 18th, 2008, 8:55 am
by ATrain


"And I've got one or two things to say about change, like the change we must change to the change we hold dear, I really like change have I made myself clear?"
"So he'll talk about change till you're deaf in the ear."

Sorry, couldn't resist posting the latest from JibJab

Posted: July 18th, 2008, 9:35 am
by LUconn
SuperJon wrote:Lynchburg
1125 Main Street
540-819-6646
10am-2pm
If Obama institutes workday hours to those, he's got my vote.