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McCain
Posted: February 6th, 2008, 11:05 am
by Knucklehead
Someone please help me here! I am truing to find out some of McCains stances on issues of concern to me. I have tried his web site and many others and he appears to be all over the map.
The specific issues I want to know about are:
Abortion
Tax cut or hike? (Is he for making Bush's cuts permanent)
Marriage
Border security (he's for amnesty right?)
Posted: February 6th, 2008, 11:07 am
by Hold My Own
He's not a 2 term president...thats all we need to know
Posted: February 6th, 2008, 11:11 am
by fan00
http://www.afa.net/pdfs/08vg.pdf
Try this voter's guide that an old pastor friend sent to me. I think it addresses all of the issues except border security.
Posted: February 6th, 2008, 11:36 am
by vastrightwinger
I don't like those voter guides because the way the questions are asked are usually flawed.
Posted: February 6th, 2008, 11:38 am
by Knucklehead
vastrightwinger wrote:I don't like those voter guides because the way the questions are asked are usually flawed.
Agree, I read that one and it answered very little of my questions!
Posted: February 6th, 2008, 11:45 am
by vastrightwinger
To answer your questions from what I have read and studies to the best of my knowledge:
Abortion - Pro-Life
Tax cut or hike? (Is he for making Bush's cuts permanent) - Was against it for various reasons (some legit some not) but now seems to be for making the cuts permanent.
Marriage - Against any Federal Marriage Amendment but also not supportive of the "homosexual agenda"
Border security (he's for amnesty right?) - Wishy Washy on this one, not sure where he really stands but he did co-sponser legislation that provided amnesty (McCain-Kennedy) but he claims that was part of the compromise with Kennedy.
I got most of this information from when he was interviewed on the Schnitt Show last week. Like I said, this isn't the gospel truth just what I have learned since I had many of the same questions. He is not my first choice but I figured I better study up a little to be ready if he does win.
Posted: February 6th, 2008, 11:54 am
by olldflame
One thing you cannot say about McCain is that he flip-flopped on abortion. He has always been pro-life. He is a bit too pro-tax for me, but the up side is that he is one of the more staunch proponents of reducing government spending in the congress. The thing that bothers me most about him is his stance on illegil immigration, which certainly leans toward amnesty, even if he doesn't want to call it that.
Posted: February 6th, 2008, 1:55 pm
by FlamingChick
CNN has a decent breakdown of each candidate's stance:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/
Posted: February 6th, 2008, 3:14 pm
by vastrightwinger
That actually is a pretty good reference since it doesn't just answer yes or no bu explains why a candidate feels the way they do.
Posted: February 6th, 2008, 6:23 pm
by Fumblerooskies
Here is a perfectly reasonable analysis by CNN on why the right wing radicals are hating on McCain:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/06/ ... index.html
(CNN) -- Listening to the irrational and hysterical response of conservatives to the presidential candidacy of Sen. John McCain would be laughable if it wasn't so serious.
During a debate Tuesday on CNN's "The Situation Room," conservative radio talk show host Glenn Beck said that the Republican Party has lost its soul, and McCain is indicative of that problem. He even said that if Sen. Hillary Clinton is the nominee, he will ignore McCain and cast a ballot for her.
Now, how silly is that?
Posted: February 6th, 2008, 7:43 pm
by paradox
85% of the time he votes along party lines, which is somewhat acceptable. What concerns many conservatives is the manner and temperment in which he disagrees with them. He's been known to critisize his own party members publicly, in an over-the-top manner.
These are legitimate concerns and in order for him to succeed, he's going to have to kiss and make up with quite a few congress members. My guess is that he'll get that done and build a bridge with those that he's offended and alienated over the years.
Another concern with McCain is that he may be a little too war-happy and militaristic. He's going to need to balance out a little within the context of the challenges associated with the global economy.
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Posted: February 6th, 2008, 8:08 pm
by Fumblerooskies
paradox wrote:Another concern with McCain is that he may be a little too war-happy and militaristic. He's going to need to balance out a little within the context of the challenges associated with the global economy.
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I can understand that...after all his father and grandfather were top Admirals in the Navy...
...and he served in Vietnam and spent a number of years in the Hanoi Hilton as a POW. I think that would make us a little gung ho, too.
Posted: February 6th, 2008, 10:14 pm
by paradox
You may have defined the reason why he's that way, but it doesn't make the problem go away. He needs to find the proper balance, and that's not always easy for him.
Posted: February 7th, 2008, 4:36 pm
by Fumblerooskies
Very "presidential sounding" good speach by McCain at the CPAC today. I encourage any of you doubters to find the speach on-line and listen to it.
Posted: February 7th, 2008, 4:49 pm
by paradox
He's saying all of the right stuff. If he delivers on his tax promises, then he'll do fine.
The radio hosts should come around by the end of the summer. They did the same stuff to Bush Sr., and then warmed up to him later.
I expect both Falwells to endorse him. I'm sure that he would have had the elder Falwell's support, if he were among us.
Posted: February 7th, 2008, 4:53 pm
by Knucklehead
paradox wrote:He's saying all of the right stuff. If he delivers on his tax promises, then he'll do fine.
The radio hosts should come around by the end of the summer. They did the same stuff to Bush Sr., and then warmed up to him later.
I expect both Falwells to endorse him. I'm sure that he would have had the elder Falwell's support, if he were among us.
Speak for yourself not the late Dr. Falwell!
Posted: February 7th, 2008, 4:54 pm
by Knucklehead
Fumblerooskies wrote:Very "presidential sounding" good speach by McCain at the CPAC today. I encourage any of you doubters to find the speach on-line and listen to it.
Watched the whole thing, and he's great about "saying the right thing". Thus my comments about the wolf in sheeps clothing.
Posted: February 7th, 2008, 4:59 pm
by paradox
Knucklehead wrote:paradox wrote:He's saying all of the right stuff. If he delivers on his tax promises, then he'll do fine.
The radio hosts should come around by the end of the summer. They did the same stuff to Bush Sr., and then warmed up to him later.
I expect both Falwells to endorse him. I'm sure that he would have had the elder Falwell's support, if he were among us.
Speak for yourself not the late Dr. Falwell!
Jerry did state that he'd support McCain if he secured the nomination.
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