A Sea Of Red

is by far one of the worst program i've ever used in my life. is there anyway at all to get rid of this stupid ribbon crap and bring back the toolbars and menus since it is clearly a much more useful and efficient design??

i know...ridiculously stupid....this is why more and more people are sick of Microsoft....

I'm finally getting used to it after six months. And I gave trying to figure out how to adjust it. And don't even try to pass on .docx files.

a number of my classes have found problems with sending, opening, posting, etc. files in the old and new format ('03 -> '07, and vise versa). that has been frustrating.

the docx thing is so stupid....whoever thought that was a good idea needs to be shot....

Agreed, it is a terrible program. I still can't figure out all the functions of Word and I've used it quite a bit. Powerpoint is awful as well. Just bring back the freaking toolbars that I know how to use! The .docx crap is stupid. I know you can change it to save it to be compatible with older versions but why change it in the first place. At least I bought it cheap from LU or I'd really be upset.

There ARE some pretty cool desktop publishing features...and the compression of the files do not take up as many bytes. I've learned to adjust with it.

I've been using it since July, hated it at first, no big deal now.

they installed it on my computer at work over night without telling me they would do it. i told them to put 2003 back on so I won't be wasting my time and company time figuring out this dumb program.

You all are crazy!!! All upgrades seem horrible until you learn how to use them.

I love the new versions of office. I use the suite a lot for my business and have found the new version to be much easier to manage than the last version. I will admit at first it was difficult to function, but once I figured it out - it so much better.

the .docx is a bit frustrating, but I am in the habit of converting everything to a PDF before sending anyway - its a good habit.

Excel is by far the most improved of all the software.

Give is time - it's like a fungus - it will grow on you.

And to make it worse - don't tell anyone, but I love Vista too - people hate it, but I have found out the people who hate it, couldn't install a mouse to save there life.

Man...I really enjoy the new office


Like proto said there are just so many things you can do...you'll use it for years and still only learn 1/100 of the options and tricks you could have done

Learning how to use it is the only hard part. I had to develop a database for my internship and it took me a while to find all of the stuff I was looking for simply because I didn't know where it was. After I figured that stuff out, it was ok.

well Office 2003 does everything I need it to do and it's a heck of a lot easier to find and the toolbars don't take up half the freakign screen like this gay Ribbon crap they added. I spent over a half hour trying to do the most basic things that should be easy to find, but apparently that's considered a good design upgrade by Microsoft...

Real genius move by Microsoft with that Ribbon thing - people are moving to widescreen monitors and laptops, and they put the gigantic ribbon horizontally across the screen instead of down the side. What a brilliant decision.

I don't find all upgrades to be horrible at first. I liked Vista from the very second I started using it. This is a horrible upgrade. I don't plan on ever upgrading to this version unless I have to or I can somehow find a way to bring back the menus and toolbars so I can make the stupid program functional again.

prototype wrote:You all are crazy!!! All upgrades seem horrible until you learn how to use them.

I love the new versions of office. I use the suite a lot for my business and have found the new version to be much easier to manage than the last version. I will admit at first it was difficult to function, but once I figured it out - it so much better.

the .docx is a bit frustrating, but I am in the habit of converting everything to a PDF before sending anyway - its a good habit.

Excel is by far the most improved of all the software.

Give is time - it's like a fungus - it will grow on you.

And to make it worse - don't tell anyone, but I love Vista too - people hate it, but I have found out the people who hate it, couldn't install a mouse to save there life.

I'm...with....Proto...on....this...one.

(Somewhere, Scorcho is smearing mud on his face and loading an assault rifle.)

There are several utilities out there that will convert the 2007 ribbon interface to the 2003 classic menus and toolbars. This is one example - http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice/ I have *not* used it (haven't upgraded to 2007 yet) so take this info for what it's worth. This one has a free trial. Google something similar to "classic menus toolbars Office 2003" and you'll find several choices. WHen I try one of these utilities I'll report back.

Several of my IT contacts have reported that companies are implementing some of these utilities to cut the learning curve for their users.

JeanW wrote:There are several utilities out there that will convert the 2007 ribbon interface to the 2003 classic menus and toolbars. This is one example - http://www.addintools.com/english/menuoffice/ I have *not* used it (haven't upgraded to 2007 yet) so take this info for what it's worth. This one has a free trial. Google something similar to "classic menus toolbars Office 2003" and you'll find several choices. WHen I try one of these utilities I'll report back.

Several of my IT contacts have reported that companies are implementing some of these utilities to cut the learning curve for their users.

i saw that one. one of the biggest ripoffs ive ever seen. $30 to add TOOLBARS and MENUS to a program? Give me a break...

Well whatever. Reduced/no learning curve and the ability to get a project out on deadline is easily worth $30 to me. But then I'm no longer in college . . .

it's not even the learning curve that I dislike. it's the fact that they made the program completely inefficient and made the ribbon a screen waster. i'm sure professionals on the go who use small laptops are going to love the fact that the ribbon is going to take up practically half the screen. there are much more efficient ways to do what they did and it wouldn't have wasted tons of screen space in the process...

flamesbball84 wrote:it's not even the learning curve that I dislike. it's the fact that they made the program completely inefficient and made the ribbon a screen waster. i'm sure professionals on the go who use small laptops are going to love the fact that the ribbon is going to take up practically half the screen. there are much more efficient ways to do what they did and it wouldn't have wasted tons of screen space in the process...

It really doesn't effect your screen area that much. It maybe added a 1/4 of an inch - most people had two layers of tools in the old version. And screens are not what they used to be. Not many people using 12" screens anymore.

prototype wrote:

flamesbball84 wrote:it's not even the learning curve that I dislike. it's the fact that they made the program completely inefficient and made the ribbon a screen waster. i'm sure professionals on the go who use small laptops are going to love the fact that the ribbon is going to take up practically half the screen. there are much more efficient ways to do what they did and it wouldn't have wasted tons of screen space in the process...

It really doesn't effect your screen area that much. It maybe added a 1/4 of an inch - most people had two layers of tools in the old version. And screens are not what they used to be. Not many people using 12" screens anymore.

Whether you have a 24" screen or a 12" screen, the Ribbon wastes more space than necessary. I went to open up a large excel file at work yesterday. If I had it on 75% zoom I could see the whole thing and still be able to read it. Now if I want to see the whole thing it has to be on 50% zoom and I cna't even read it. That means I have to do a lot more scrolling now, which is wasting time and is thus less efficient. Doesn't sound like a big deal, but when I'm hacing to constantly scroll up and down or left and right it gets annoying and wastes time.

I hate Vista. It came with a temporary version of Office, which screwed up the Office 2000 that I own and tried to install on it. Thankfully, I also own a copy of Office 97, so I'm using that with Vista.

I had to buy a new printer because my old one wouldn't work.

Also, when I registered Quickverse 2007, I forgot to run it in administrator mode - so it continually asks me to re-register.

My version of motoral phone tools would not work with my Motorola W315 phone. Even after updating it. This software works fine on Win 98, 2000, and XP. It refused to update and I had to buy a whole new version.

I've had other problems as well.

OK...rant is over...I feel better.