I'm with ya Sly... If you plan to make money at all on this site, it's better to stay clear of problems. Besides there is definately enough talent on this board to come up with a pretty sweet logo. With so many ideas about how LU can incorporate the 'flame' idea... I'm sure someone will come up with a great identity.
LUConn, I think there are two seperate discussions... the one about the header is seperate from the one about the shirts. The shirts and header don't have to be the same graphic. In fact, you'd want the shirts as simple as possible (1-2 color max). You have a screen charge (set-up fee) for each color. You also need to keep in mind any dark colors on a dark shirt will need a white under-lay. That's an extra charge so as you guys design these things... try to keep the cost of printing in mind (assuming you want cost to be reasonable). When you're dealing with a relatively low quanity, your set-up charges will impact every shirt. Most screen printing companies will charge $30-40 per color for set up alone. So if you had 2 colors among a group of 20 shirts, you're looking at $4 just for set up fees. That shirt will likely run close to $15-20 easy. Higher quanities or fewer colors will help. If it's a great design it can be done in 1 color and look fantastic.
Here is a shirt done by the guys at National Community Church (theaterchurch.com)
