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2007 Heisman Bowl thread

Posted: December 2nd, 2007, 11:51 am
by BJWilliams
Well with all these announcer types on here and with all this BCS vs a playoff talk I thought Id bring this back from last year.

Selection criteria are simple:

6 BCS conference champions
10 at large
No one conference receives more than 3 bids (CAA rule)
At least 6 wins on the year

Here are the conference champions:

ACC: Virginia Tech
Big 10: Ohio State
Big 12: Oklahoma
Big East: West Virginia
Pac-10: USC
SEC: LSU

I'll post the 10 at larges after the final BCS standings and matchups are announced.

Posted: December 2nd, 2007, 11:55 am
by Fumblerooskies
Sweet idea, BJ.

Posted: December 2nd, 2007, 12:15 pm
by BJWilliams
Just so you know ahead of time I am using these criteria in selecting the 10 at large (along with the "CAA rule"):

Strength of schedule
Margin of victory/defeat
opponent strength of schedule
BCS standings
overall strength of conference


1. Strength of schedule- very simply, who did they play?
2. Margin of victory/defeat- How much did they win by in those games? (or lose by)
3. Opponent Strength of Schedule- Who did the teams that each school played play themselves?
4. BCS Standings- Where did your team finish in the BCS (if they were ranked at all)?
5. Overall Strength of Conference- How good, top to bottom, is the conference the team played in?

Posted: December 2nd, 2007, 12:43 pm
by Schfourteenteen
Great idea BJ..... can I do anything to convince you FIU deserves to be in there?

Florida International Resume
Big Wins:
North Texas, first win in two years

Big Losses(Meaning by 60 or more points):
0, although the barely lost to Penn State 59-0, and a last minute scoring drive put Kansas up 55-3.
Also, this year they did not get in a fight with "The U"


Obviously FIU should be in

Posted: December 2nd, 2007, 1:00 pm
by BJWilliams
Umm...haha...no FAU has more of a chance to get in than FIU

Posted: December 2nd, 2007, 2:33 pm
by flamesfilmguy
UGA,Hawaii,Mizzou,Kansas,Boston College,VAtech,USC,Arizona state,WVU and Florida

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 10:48 am
by BJWilliams
As promised here are the 10 at large bids into the 2007 Race for the Heisman Bowl:

ACC
Boston College Runner up to VA Tech (10-3)

Big 10
Illinois- Runner up to Ohio State (9-3)

Big 12
Missouri- Runner up to Oklahoma (11-2)
Kansas- 2nd place Big 12 North (11-1)

Big East
No at larges awarded

Pac-10
Arizona State- Runner up to USC (10-2)
Oregon State- 3rd place (8-4)

SEC
Georgia- SEC East runner-up (10-2)
Tennessee- SEC East Champion (9-4)





Non-BCS
Hawaii- Champions Western Athletic Conference (12-0)
and finally...and Im gonna catch flak for this one...

Central Florida- Conference USA Champions (10-3)

These are the at larges I have picked based on the listed criteria

As it breaks down:

ACC-2 (Virginia Tech, Boston College)

Big 10- 2 (Ohio State, Illinois)

Big 12- 3 (Oklahoma, Missouri, Kansas)

Big East- 1 (West Virginia)

Conference USA- 1 (Central Florida)

Pac-10- 3 (USC, Arizona State, Oregon State)

SEC- 3 (LSU, Georgia, Tennessee)

WAC- 1 (Hawaii)

Let the snub talk begin!

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 12:09 pm
by thepostman
how was Georgia SEC east champs if they didn't even make it to the championship game BJ??????

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 12:15 pm
by jcmanson
Oregon??? They've lost 3 in a row. Dixon is out.

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 12:16 pm
by SuperJon
He said Oregon St.

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 12:20 pm
by jcmanson
Oh, my bad. In that case:

Oregon State??? I don't even know any of their players. Pac 10 bias.

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 1:35 pm
by BJWilliams
thepostman wrote:how was Georgia SEC east champs if they didn't even make it to the championship game BJ??????
Sorry I was in a hurry and I mistyped. They are supposed to be SEC east runners-up.

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 1:45 pm
by ToTheLeft
USF is more deserving than Oregon state.

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 1:51 pm
by thepostman
USF.....did they ever fall apart.....but you're right...they deserve it more then Oregon State that is for sure

but neither one of those two would deserve it

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 1:53 pm
by ToTheLeft
they lost 3 heartbreakers to bowl teams, and beat 5 bowl eligible teams, including Auburn and WVU.

Not too shabby.

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 2:18 pm
by jcmanson
ToTheLeft wrote:they beat 5 bowl eligible teams.

Not too shabby.
I could say that about 20 teams.

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 2:33 pm
by ToTheLeft
jcmanson wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:they beat 5 bowl eligible teams.

Not too shabby.
I could say that about 20 teams.
are they all 8-3 and beat West Virigina and Auburn?

Actually, find me teams, not on BJ's list, who beat 5 bowl eligable teams.

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 3:06 pm
by jcmanson
ToTheLeft wrote:
jcmanson wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:they beat 5 bowl eligible teams.

Not too shabby.
I could say that about 20 teams.
are they all 8-3 and beat West Virigina and Auburn?

Actually, find me teams, not on BJ's list, who beat 5 bowl eligable teams.
Ok, give me some time.

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 3:20 pm
by BJWilliams
jcmanson wrote:Oh, my bad. In that case:

Oregon State??? I don't even know any of their players. Pac 10 bias.
Hey there are three conferences that got 3 bids under my system if you look at the breakdown. If you intended that to be a joke I didn't find it very funny.

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 3:25 pm
by jmdickens
I can't believe Central Florida made it over the University of Florida and its heisman QB/RB

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 3:31 pm
by BJWilliams
jmdickens wrote:I can't believe Central Florida made it over the University of Florida and its heisman QB/RB
Well hey Id put Florida in but I did add the "CAA rule" so that one conference doesn't get the majority of the bids. I mean not everybody is gonna be happy with who gets in and who doesn't (much like with who gets in the NCAA basketball tournament and who doesn't...who gets in the 1-AA/FCS playoffs or not...who gets in the BCS or not...etc). Im not saying its a perfect system

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 4:04 pm
by jcmanson
jcmanson wrote:
ToTheLeft wrote:
jcmanson wrote: I could say that about 20 teams.
are they all 8-3 and beat West Virigina and Auburn?

Actually, find me teams, not on BJ's list, who beat 5 bowl eligable teams.
Ok, give me some time.
After some thorough research I have found the following info:

There are 4 teams (other than USF) with 5 wins over bowl-eligible teams:

Florida who has 7!
Clemson who has 6.
Oregon with 5 and have beaten USC and Ariz St.
Michigan with 5.

I would take all of those teams ahead of USF. All 4 of them played in toughet conferences, except for maybe Michigan.

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 4:05 pm
by jcmanson
BJWilliams wrote:
jcmanson wrote:Oh, my bad. In that case:

Oregon State??? I don't even know any of their players. Pac 10 bias.
Hey there are three conferences that got 3 bids under my system if you look at the breakdown. If you intended that to be a joke I didn't find it very funny.
BJ take it easy buddy, this is a hypothetical tourney.

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 4:09 pm
by LUconn
I find your lack of seriousness unamusing manson.

Posted: December 3rd, 2007, 4:20 pm
by jcmanson
LUconn wrote:I find your lack of seriousness unamusing manson.
This just isn't as serious as the christmas song tourney going on now. I'm sorry, it's just not.